Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3
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I recall a while ago there was some strawberry printed blotters sold as AL-LAD that actually contained an NBOMe ... That was years ago, though. Apart from that time, I don't think I've ever heard of AL-LAD being intentionally mislabeled. Maybe the bitter taste was just ink ?
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Thanks everyone, I think it was just the ink. The blotters had more ink than I've ever used but the bitterness wasn't like pervasive or anything, plus being the idiot that I am, I took 3 and have no ill effects to speak of.
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How long was the duration with 3 blotters (from intake until you were able to sleep) ?
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Errrr. We're waiting!
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Just thought I'd bring up this intense TR: https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=109160
No shit, mixing 450 µg with 5 lines of coke = bad idea
No shit, mixing 450 µg with 5 lines of coke = bad idea
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But if you read the TR, you can see that the 5 lines really didn't do anything much - so if it was bunk Coke then it may not even have been equivalent to one line of more potent Coke! So the Coke may not have been such a significant factor - and weed is not known to cause vasoconstriction or really any untoward effect apart from possibly a panic attack.
This leaves AL-LAD on it's own as the possible culprit. Curious indeed. And very worrying for the TR poster.
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Hmm... I had the exact same stomach ache once after taking al-lad (225ug or one and a half blotter, the ones with the name and the molecule printed on them). I've used al-lad six times, dosages ranging from 75 to 300, the other five times I was fine. I didn't notice any cardiovascular problems though.
The pain went away after two hours. It was excruciating but I kind of enjoyed it because it lead to some deep reflections on the nature of pain. At the time I had the habit of going cycling during the come-up/ first part of the trip, so I thought my bended posture was the culprit, being on a racing cycle and all.
Thanks for sharing that erowid report, good thing to keep in mind
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I actually got a bad stomach ache from AL-LAD once too, at 450ug (which is the dose I prefer, 300ug or less seems weak to me), it felt like gas pain, but it wouldn't come out. It was quite sharp, this pain, but it went away after I started moving around a lot. Didn't ruin the trip at all but it was something to deal with for a while.
I'll just put a little TR out here.
I tried 150ug AL-LAD last week for the first time. It was my first trip around friends (I've always tripped solo) although I was still the only one tripping. We were just gonna drive an hour to a little scenic island with a conservatory, small aquarium and zoo and just chill out there.
I started getting the effects in about 30 minutes. After an hour or so of dropping we stopped for lunch. As with LSD (and it's also being mentioned in a few posts right before this), I got a pretty bloated stomach with this one. I couldn't eat much. Usually cannabis or ginger tea helps with that, but I had none. Thankfully, it wasn't more intense than 100ug LSD and manageable. The taste of food wasn't amplified as much as with LSD, but the smells were quite strong. I left my pakced sandwiches in the car and by the time we got back, I couldn't stand that smell because it felt so intense. I was having visuals at par with 150+ug of LSD, but almost no headspace to speak off. It was just like a little light show.
And it stayed that way. I felt a bit out of sorts, as if I wasn't completely there, but otherwise was as good as sober as I browsed through the exhibits. Later on, we messed around a little golf at a driving range. My first time and even though I failed to connect the club with the ball in my first few attempts, I got pretty good at sending the ball far. All I'd hoped for with my first time. We also did a little putting practice and that was fun too. I never thought I'd like golf, but everything was coming together so nicely. The weather was perfect, so was the chemical in my head, and I had friends around! I've never laughed so much on a trip. Most importantly, they were having a good time too. That had me somewhat confused. I felt I was having this amazing time only because of the AL-LAD, but that may not be completely true. I'm sure it significantly amplified that joy though and made it easy for me to immerse myself in the activities.
After that we just sat around with many geese and ducks and watched the sunset. After returning to the apartment, I had a fuckton of cannabis with lots of different people. From having lived an entire year almost alone, this was a huge change. Even though I had some anxiety during all that, I could ignore that and focus on interacting with new people. By this time, weed had given rise to it's own little headspace and like with all psychedelics it synergized perfectly with this one too. My thoughts became more analytical and I suddenly found myself wishing to become an observer in this drama. Classic cannabis + psych depersonalization.
By the time for dinner, cannabis had helped with the gas and I was hungry. I'd had too much though, and was a little scared to eat a lot for fear of laying unnecessary stress on the GI tract. Still, I had a decent dinner at an Italian restaurant. It was a party of sorts and there were 20+ people on the table. Luckily, I found the corner spot and could inconspicuously phase out. I loved the flow of thought in my head throughout the wait for food. At times I would get this desire to interact a little with others and try a bit. Never got the conversation anywhere, but I never felt anxious, ashamed or guilty about it. Another friend was also about as high as me minus the AL-LAD and was pretty much "not present" at the table. I could feel that others who were all sober, did not seem pleased with our inebriated states. That annoyed me a little, but again, unlike LSD, AL-LAD did not take me deep into the implications of their behaviour. Just had me wishing that I could explain them the positives of drug use.
The time for that would soon come though. After dinner we played a little poker and before retiring, the topic of drugs came up. Me being the only one experienced with the illegal variants was being bombarded with questions. I showed them how I kept a log of all my drug use and how I thought it can be positively integrated in life if used responsibly. At the end of all that, I felt somewhat satisfied for having adequately responded to their negative reactions to drug use. I'm not sure about it, but I felt good at having shared knowledge about something that has been blanketed in lies and false propaganda. I really don't know if all this interaction would've been possible on LSD or shrooms. They don't let me wander outside my head for long, but again, I don't have any experience using them in social situations.
Overall, I loved this one too (what haven't I loved so far?). I still have 4x150ug AL-LAD left. I find most dosages listed here to be pretty high (srsly, you guys feel nothing on 150ug AL-LAD? How?), but I still want to go for a 300ug trip. I'd do 225 before that though and if that feels too much (like 250ug LSD was more than what I needed) then I'd step down and just enjoy the gentler effects.
Anyway, this was all I learned from AL-LAD at 150ug. Colourful and visual, gas build up, very chilled out headspace, subtle social push, synergy with cannabis and no mental burden.
I tried 150ug AL-LAD last week for the first time. It was my first trip around friends (I've always tripped solo) although I was still the only one tripping. We were just gonna drive an hour to a little scenic island with a conservatory, small aquarium and zoo and just chill out there.
I started getting the effects in about 30 minutes. After an hour or so of dropping we stopped for lunch. As with LSD (and it's also being mentioned in a few posts right before this), I got a pretty bloated stomach with this one. I couldn't eat much. Usually cannabis or ginger tea helps with that, but I had none. Thankfully, it wasn't more intense than 100ug LSD and manageable. The taste of food wasn't amplified as much as with LSD, but the smells were quite strong. I left my pakced sandwiches in the car and by the time we got back, I couldn't stand that smell because it felt so intense. I was having visuals at par with 150+ug of LSD, but almost no headspace to speak off. It was just like a little light show.
And it stayed that way. I felt a bit out of sorts, as if I wasn't completely there, but otherwise was as good as sober as I browsed through the exhibits. Later on, we messed around a little golf at a driving range. My first time and even though I failed to connect the club with the ball in my first few attempts, I got pretty good at sending the ball far. All I'd hoped for with my first time. We also did a little putting practice and that was fun too. I never thought I'd like golf, but everything was coming together so nicely. The weather was perfect, so was the chemical in my head, and I had friends around! I've never laughed so much on a trip. Most importantly, they were having a good time too. That had me somewhat confused. I felt I was having this amazing time only because of the AL-LAD, but that may not be completely true. I'm sure it significantly amplified that joy though and made it easy for me to immerse myself in the activities.
After that we just sat around with many geese and ducks and watched the sunset. After returning to the apartment, I had a fuckton of cannabis with lots of different people. From having lived an entire year almost alone, this was a huge change. Even though I had some anxiety during all that, I could ignore that and focus on interacting with new people. By this time, weed had given rise to it's own little headspace and like with all psychedelics it synergized perfectly with this one too. My thoughts became more analytical and I suddenly found myself wishing to become an observer in this drama. Classic cannabis + psych depersonalization.
By the time for dinner, cannabis had helped with the gas and I was hungry. I'd had too much though, and was a little scared to eat a lot for fear of laying unnecessary stress on the GI tract. Still, I had a decent dinner at an Italian restaurant. It was a party of sorts and there were 20+ people on the table. Luckily, I found the corner spot and could inconspicuously phase out. I loved the flow of thought in my head throughout the wait for food. At times I would get this desire to interact a little with others and try a bit. Never got the conversation anywhere, but I never felt anxious, ashamed or guilty about it. Another friend was also about as high as me minus the AL-LAD and was pretty much "not present" at the table. I could feel that others who were all sober, did not seem pleased with our inebriated states. That annoyed me a little, but again, unlike LSD, AL-LAD did not take me deep into the implications of their behaviour. Just had me wishing that I could explain them the positives of drug use.
The time for that would soon come though. After dinner we played a little poker and before retiring, the topic of drugs came up. Me being the only one experienced with the illegal variants was being bombarded with questions. I showed them how I kept a log of all my drug use and how I thought it can be positively integrated in life if used responsibly. At the end of all that, I felt somewhat satisfied for having adequately responded to their negative reactions to drug use. I'm not sure about it, but I felt good at having shared knowledge about something that has been blanketed in lies and false propaganda. I really don't know if all this interaction would've been possible on LSD or shrooms. They don't let me wander outside my head for long, but again, I don't have any experience using them in social situations.
Overall, I loved this one too (what haven't I loved so far?). I still have 4x150ug AL-LAD left. I find most dosages listed here to be pretty high (srsly, you guys feel nothing on 150ug AL-LAD? How?), but I still want to go for a 300ug trip. I'd do 225 before that though and if that feels too much (like 250ug LSD was more than what I needed) then I'd step down and just enjoy the gentler effects.
Anyway, this was all I learned from AL-LAD at 150ug. Colourful and visual, gas build up, very chilled out headspace, subtle social push, synergy with cannabis and no mental burden.
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Thanks for sharing. 
Sounds like you don't have anyone to trip with and you hang around a lot of non drug-users. That's kind of a bummer (would be to me anyway) but kudos on handling it well.
Sounds like you don't have anyone to trip with and you hang around a lot of non drug-users. That's kind of a bummer (would be to me anyway) but kudos on handling it well.I don't hang around anyone to be more accurate. For this little trip, I was on a little vacation at one my friends place and all these other non drug users were his friends. My drug friendly friends are in another country (although one of them just got here and I plan on doing a 4-HO-MiPT experiment with him while he does MDMA for the first time).
Around these new people, it was somewhat difficult handling their obvious judging looks and condescending opinions, but that just motivated me to be better. I would like people to form a positive opinion for the social momentum to shift towards acceptable drug use and there is no other way to do it than interacting with them under the influence. I would consider it a success if I sowed the seeds of doubt for the drug propaganda they've been brain washed with since childhood, in at least a couple of them.
And sorry for digressing. None of this has anything to do with AL-LAD. So let me get a couple questions for you.
1. Given that you need a high dose to feel the effects, do you not even get any visuals at 150ug?
2. Does 300 or 450ug come with the headspace of a comparable dose of LSD or is it still predominantly visual?
Thanks!
Around these new people, it was somewhat difficult handling their obvious judging looks and condescending opinions, but that just motivated me to be better. I would like people to form a positive opinion for the social momentum to shift towards acceptable drug use and there is no other way to do it than interacting with them under the influence. I would consider it a success if I sowed the seeds of doubt for the drug propaganda they've been brain washed with since childhood, in at least a couple of them.
And sorry for digressing. None of this has anything to do with AL-LAD. So let me get a couple questions for you.
1. Given that you need a high dose to feel the effects, do you not even get any visuals at 150ug?
2. Does 300 or 450ug come with the headspace of a comparable dose of LSD or is it still predominantly visual?
Thanks!
Xorkoth
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I do not get any visuals from 150ug of AL-LAD, that dose feels nice but it's threshold, I don't feel substantially altered (compared to the same dose of LSD/ALD-52 where I am definitely tripping at that dose with some visuals). At 300ug I get light visuals but it still doesn't get me all the way there, At 450ug (the highest dose I've tried, done it multiple times), I get strong visuals (of a very different nature than LSD) and a unique headspace. It is not deep like LSD, but it's still powerful. I feel a great sense of hilarity at everything and communicating is somewhat difficult yet fun. Coincidences seem to be magnified, but there is no spiritual depth to it or particularly useful insights. It's more or less just a lot of fun, extremely euphoric (to a greater degree than LSD) and full of laughter. I like it a lot but I wouldn't use AL-LAD to try to have a deep trip, for me it's a social thing.
Hello ! Just for those interrested : few years ago there was a debate about a second batch of al-lad being weaker than the first one, blotters not as potent... The vendor always claimed it was the same and accused tolerance, set and setting, ith analysis at hand. I myself have a bit of different batchs, dispose of many pychs, so I kind of forgot the 25 150mc al-lad blots I have from the very beginning of it. I recently wanted to try some again, and took 1/4. This was one of the most intense trip of my life, and there have been many many, I could not count them : this time, insane visual and auditory effect, confusion, ago loss, ++++, and eventually paranoia... from what I thought to be about 37.5mc of the mollecule, which seems impossible to me. There might have been set and seting as well, but not so much ! I nsist on the fact that I'm very very used to all the lyzergamides recently accessible to us, at micro/normal/high doses. Those blotters seem wird, greyis and completly black on one side of the page (including on the 1/4 I took). Notice that the row material in powder/crystal form is greyish/black... The vendor had my complete trust, and I still trust him. but I was confident that blotters laid at such a factory level would be the most consistently dosed. I was wrong I must admit now... So coming back to the debate : I think the second batch of blotters was not underdosed, but rather that the first one was really but not consistently overdosed. I would have never thought that one of my most intense trip would come out of 1/4 of a 4 years old blotter, off a chemical I'm very acquainted to... Sorry for my porr english...
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Nice post emilium. A good reminder that the idea that a "legitimate in another country" laboratory should be producing more reliable and accurate dosing does not necessarily hold true. There have been many "illegal" acid producers who have a sense of fairness when creating the substance. Just part of the risk inherent in all production processes - it's happened with lemonade, cooking oils, etc., etc. At least the safety profile is good!
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Took 1 blotter rated at 150mcg of AL-LAD along with about a third of a 100mcg of ETH-LAD yesterday with my girlfriend (she took 75mcg, half a tab of AL-LAD) and was very pleasantly surprised that the trip was very visual and quite deep for AL-LAD. Had all three isomers (METH, AL and ETH LADS) on papers sitting in the baggie for about couple of months, I precut them in halves for easier dosages for camping trips, there were only couple of them left in there.
Subjects: 170Lbs male with about 10 years of extensive psychoactives research which includes: DMT, Mushrooms, 4-Aco-DMT, 4-Aco-MET, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DPT, LSD, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, Mescaline, Allylescaline, Methallylescaline, 2C-P, bk-2C-B, MDMA, Amanitas, Salvia, Amphetamines and other stims. Previous trip was on 20mg 4-Aco-DET about a week ago. My girlfriend is about 120Lbs with a lot less experience and with a lot less tolerance to serotonergic psychedelics. We ate a breakfast muffins with cheese and egg and had coffee about two hours prior the experience.
Set & Setting: Late night (we both work night shifts and it was our day off together) in a little busy moods.
We have both preloaded with 500mg Phenibut and I also took a gram of Piracetam.
T=00:00 - Took tabs and decided to put on the movie "Being John Malkovich".
T+00:30 - We both agree that there is an activity going on already. Colors are more vivid and there is a characteristic AL-LAD gigglyness, body becomes feeling lighter.
T+01:00 - An hour into the experience and I'm seeing slight visual trails, webs of light and my brain is starting to have the warm energy I usually get from lysergamides. The movie at this point is very funny and we're laughing our asses off!..
I start the fireplace in the living room and it's glow producing very nice sparkly visuals. Time as a concept slowly dissolving. Some cannabis smoked.
T+01:40 - We have a conversation, smoked some more cannabis, got even higher!
We look at each other and as we are we start realizing that we are alive, that we are extremely complex organic living beings, infinitely complex chemically balanced creatures with consciousness, that we are right here, right now, sitting next to each other and that realization fills us both with such emotional charge, we both burst in tears. At this point we just closed our eyes and were sitting forehead to forehead, just listening to the crackling fireplace and each others thoughts. I've never experienced telepathy on anything but classic LSD but this time it was definite. We both were able to produce beautiful colorful moving aztec-type of CEV's and transmit those to each other's consciousness, very unique type of communication that I value a lot in psychedelics.
T+03:00 - Drinking green tea with chocolate, eating mandarins, smoking pot and playing vintage Sega videogames! Rolling nicely but feeling that the trip is on the decline already. Conversation is a lot easier than my previous trials with AL-LAD (Could be due to partial decomposition of my material, or mixing with ETH-LAD, or both) so we talk about all the things in the world, the night feels magical and I so dont want to think about going to work the next day...
T+04:00 - Decided to have an indian food dinner with some beers, enjoying it, although not sure if really hungry at this point. Very nice glowing is still going on, with eyes closed I can still see some interesting visuals but fading already.
T+05:00 - Took a shower together that became very intimate pretty soon...)
T+06:00 - Sex was great, even though the concentration was not perfect, it was long and expressive, very animalistic, with some angry notes in it, powerful orgasm resulted in a burst of purplish-red-yellow-green colors and extreme bodily pleasure. Lysergamides are great for sex imo, especially AL-LAD and regular LSD (ETH-LAD seems to produce more introspection for me).
T+06:30 - There is still some stimulation going on, so we both take tablet of Cardimap (Rauwolfia Serpentina - herbal anti-psychotic), tablet of Validol, some extract of Kava and Valerian Root and try to fall asleep. Was dreaming vividly in about half an hour or so. Woke up pretty refreshed although I wish I would not have to work today...
I have noticed some weird ear popping effect this time, like there's too much air in my head and its coming out of my ears, but of course, most likely it has something to do with an inner ear, Ive had similar effects with mushrooms and DMT at times. Also, every time I take AL-LAD, the experience is different for me, but I guess, Its a good thing, and this time both of us didn't feel the annoying excess of energy as the last couple of times we tried it.
Thank you for reading friends!
Subjects: 170Lbs male with about 10 years of extensive psychoactives research which includes: DMT, Mushrooms, 4-Aco-DMT, 4-Aco-MET, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DPT, LSD, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, Mescaline, Allylescaline, Methallylescaline, 2C-P, bk-2C-B, MDMA, Amanitas, Salvia, Amphetamines and other stims. Previous trip was on 20mg 4-Aco-DET about a week ago. My girlfriend is about 120Lbs with a lot less experience and with a lot less tolerance to serotonergic psychedelics. We ate a breakfast muffins with cheese and egg and had coffee about two hours prior the experience.
Set & Setting: Late night (we both work night shifts and it was our day off together) in a little busy moods.
We have both preloaded with 500mg Phenibut and I also took a gram of Piracetam.
T=00:00 - Took tabs and decided to put on the movie "Being John Malkovich".
T+00:30 - We both agree that there is an activity going on already. Colors are more vivid and there is a characteristic AL-LAD gigglyness, body becomes feeling lighter.
T+01:00 - An hour into the experience and I'm seeing slight visual trails, webs of light and my brain is starting to have the warm energy I usually get from lysergamides. The movie at this point is very funny and we're laughing our asses off!..
I start the fireplace in the living room and it's glow producing very nice sparkly visuals. Time as a concept slowly dissolving. Some cannabis smoked.
T+01:40 - We have a conversation, smoked some more cannabis, got even higher!
We look at each other and as we are we start realizing that we are alive, that we are extremely complex organic living beings, infinitely complex chemically balanced creatures with consciousness, that we are right here, right now, sitting next to each other and that realization fills us both with such emotional charge, we both burst in tears. At this point we just closed our eyes and were sitting forehead to forehead, just listening to the crackling fireplace and each others thoughts. I've never experienced telepathy on anything but classic LSD but this time it was definite. We both were able to produce beautiful colorful moving aztec-type of CEV's and transmit those to each other's consciousness, very unique type of communication that I value a lot in psychedelics.
T+03:00 - Drinking green tea with chocolate, eating mandarins, smoking pot and playing vintage Sega videogames! Rolling nicely but feeling that the trip is on the decline already. Conversation is a lot easier than my previous trials with AL-LAD (Could be due to partial decomposition of my material, or mixing with ETH-LAD, or both) so we talk about all the things in the world, the night feels magical and I so dont want to think about going to work the next day...
T+04:00 - Decided to have an indian food dinner with some beers, enjoying it, although not sure if really hungry at this point. Very nice glowing is still going on, with eyes closed I can still see some interesting visuals but fading already.
T+05:00 - Took a shower together that became very intimate pretty soon...)
T+06:00 - Sex was great, even though the concentration was not perfect, it was long and expressive, very animalistic, with some angry notes in it, powerful orgasm resulted in a burst of purplish-red-yellow-green colors and extreme bodily pleasure. Lysergamides are great for sex imo, especially AL-LAD and regular LSD (ETH-LAD seems to produce more introspection for me).
T+06:30 - There is still some stimulation going on, so we both take tablet of Cardimap (Rauwolfia Serpentina - herbal anti-psychotic), tablet of Validol, some extract of Kava and Valerian Root and try to fall asleep. Was dreaming vividly in about half an hour or so. Woke up pretty refreshed although I wish I would not have to work today...
I have noticed some weird ear popping effect this time, like there's too much air in my head and its coming out of my ears, but of course, most likely it has something to do with an inner ear, Ive had similar effects with mushrooms and DMT at times. Also, every time I take AL-LAD, the experience is different for me, but I guess, Its a good thing, and this time both of us didn't feel the annoying excess of energy as the last couple of times we tried it.
Thank you for reading friends!
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