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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3

If you've taken 1P higher dosage than Al-Lad I'd say you'll find the 150ug underwhelming. However, of course to be on the safe side go for it but I wouldn't expect the full treats of what AL can give you at that if you have prior experience with the others. Mentally it's very stimulating! Very euphoric with lots of visuals! You'll be imaging futuristic worlds in 3D neon colour geometry closed eyes. Saying that it is much shorter than the others - give or take 3-4 hours. For me, I normally come down around 7 hours and can sleep no problem after that. It's not as draining as LSD either so you should be good to choose whether you want to call it a night or keep doing what you're doing. I've taken it at parties for 12-15 hours and been fine to stay on! Appetite wise, thinking of it, I've never eaten anything substantial whilst on AL. However, the odd fruit or sweet goes down a treat of course!

Come up time for me takes about 2 hours, sometimes even 3 to fully peak. It really is a gem of a chem. Very positive and fun, and music for me is just as good as it's big brother (in higher doses).
 
I've got a quick question, I received my AL-LAD blotters and they're very small, smaller in comparison to ETH-LAD, 1P-LSD, or ALD-52 blotters, they came from the same vendor, which I trust, but I just thought it was odd.

Also, unlike the aforementioned chemicals, these contain no printings with the chemicals name on it, they are blue and have cartoon pictures of hotdogs, or hamburgers printed on them.

Anyone who had the same blotters, or knows why they are smaller?
About a 3th smaller I assume.
 
For immoral redistribution reasons, I'd presume? Not sure if they are similarly sized to street tabs of LSD, but that seems like a logical thing. Otherwise the vendor is just getting the blotter from a different source. The vendor who started distributing this chemical doesn't carry this anymore in blotter form, at least, so might be a different person put in on a different paper.

Don't think anyone can help you much further than this, have you tried talking to the vendor? The RC scene is situated in such a way that customer service is very important and they would be glad to help probably.
 
Probably.
It's AL-LAD, I don't doubt it for a second.
He's a stand up guy and tests all his products at Energy Control before selling, but his previous products are all labeled with the chemical's name, that's why I asked if anyone has seen these before.
 
Yeah that naming thing was policy by the original source, I think. Any more and we'll be braking BL-law, so let's not do that. There are other forums that allow vendor discussion that would be more suited for your question ;)
 
Haven't taken AL-LAD in a month but had minor tolerance to other psychs, tried to take 250ug of AL-LAD last night which 250ug of LSD would of rocked me, the AL had zero effect again. This stuff has crazy cross tolerance. I'm gonna wait 2 weeks and take 450. Hopefully it does something.
 
250ug is pretty much a minimum dose for me anyways, this one starts being good around 400ug for me. Much less potent than LSD, though the dosage curve is a bit more steep.
 
@BlueMerlin: I have the same blotters you are mentioning. I tested one (100ug) and thought it tasted a bit bitter, but I have never tested AL-LAD before, only read that it's supposed to be tasteless. Have you tested it yet?
 
No bitterness at all for me, completely tasteless, if they are blue with cartoon hotdogs on them then I guess you just imagined the bitterness.

I'm not sure if I really like this one though, I get a lot of jaw clenching, very annoying, makes me much more tense than regular LSD.
 
Does anyone else notice a unique and weird tolerance with this one? For some reason it's just really hard for me to trip on, even waiting a week or 2 with no psychedelics and other people experience not too much tolerance. It's my favorite but sadly looks like can only be used once a month at most for me, cross tolerance to all other psychedelics as well. Just trying to save people the wasted product and time I experienced, I waited 11 days after trying ETH-LAD took 200ug of AL with zero effect, cross tolerance with mush, normal LSD as well very heavy, along with having its own tolerance of 2-3 weeks, where as normal L you could trip weekly if you wanted.
 
eclipse3130 said:
Does anyone else notice a unique and weird tolerance with this one? For some reason it's just really hard for me to trip on, even waiting a week or 2 with no psychedelics and other people experience not too much tolerance. It's my favorite but sadly looks like can only be used once a month at most for me, cross tolerance to all other psychedelics as well. Just trying to save people the wasted product and time I experienced, I waited 11 days after trying ETH-LAD took 200ug of AL with zero effect, cross tolerance with mush, normal LSD as well very heavy, along with having its own tolerance of 2-3 weeks, where as normal L you could trip weekly if you wanted.
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For what it's worth -

April 22 - 150 ug Al-LAD after a complete 8 week break. Minimal effects, but possibly due to being 'in transit' to me ~34 days. May have been subject to temperatures of 30C for days at a time (a complete guess)

April 29 - 75 ug Al-LAD + 100 ug Eth-LAD (also 34 day transit). Very strong effects, almost a bit too much. So either Eth-LAD not affected by transit, synregism between the two or I just respond weakly to Al-LAD. Who knows

May 6th - 300 ug Al-LAD from a new shipment that was only 13 days in transit. I was a bit hesitant because this was the largest Lysergamide dose I've taken; but I wanted to find out if the first shipment might have been degraded or if I had a tolerance at all. No conclusions about degradation, but I can easily say I've got no tolerance/cross tolerance at least within a 2 week/3 use period. I actually found this hellishly strong. Maybe with no tolerance it would have been too much? Hunger was stimulated, much more so than on any other lysergamide, I ended up cooking a burger 4 hours into the trip (couldn't stop laughing because I kept saying to the burger 'I win you lose'). Alcohol consumption was moderate; 3 beer and 1 cider

So there ya have it. I seem to have about a 1 week reset.

May 13rth - 300 ug Al-LAD Absolutely no tolerance. It actually seems a bit stronger upon subsequent use. I was expecting a big tolerance for using the same amount 2-3 weeks in a row, but got thrown for a loop when it was stronger.

Tom
 
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What's the dose response curve like on this? While I haven't read through the whole big and dandy, I've read quite a few pages without finding a good answer. I've taken 300 ug, which gave decent visuals, but not much mental effects. I was thinking of doing 600 ug next time, but wondering if it's too much of a jump. Going up by a smaller amount might be sensible, but risks wasting material and time if it's going to be another underwhelming trip. Reports seem to indicate that this is pretty forgiving, and I'm OK with being a bit overwhelmed, if that's even possible.
 
All the lysergamides can be stored for quite a long time this way, assuming they're properly sealed from air. Not sure exactly how long but you're not in danger of them degrading anytime soon.
 
Aah, many thanks, Xorkoth. Then I misunderstood. I thought I'd have to take my blotters all at once in the next days, before the AL-LAD degrades into something else. :D

As you have experience with both : Could you perhaps briefly compare the effects of this to those of 2c-e ? I just take 2c-e as reference, as it is the last (and one of the serious) psychedelic I've consumed and never had any lysergamide (I know I'm a virgin by Steve Job's definition).

And in general, are there any serious differences between the effects of the lysergic acid RCs ?
 
Xorkoth said:
I find 450 a lot stronger and better than 300ug. I haven't tried 600 but the jump is a lot between 300 and 450.
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^^^^ This. I've been taking Al-LAD once a week for ~2 months, slowly increasing the doses. Once I started doing 300 ug, subsequent trips became stronger, almost as if there was a catalytic or inductive effect.

I finished off my stash with a 375 ug trip, and it was much stronger than a 300 ug trip. Just a guess, but most people will probably have slightly different dose response curves depending on physiology, weight, age, overall health, etc. 375 ug wasn't (for me) uncomfortable, but I did get 'day after' nausea.

Mental effects? Phenomenal anti-depressant activity, wild chaotic thoughts that jump all over the place and an utter inability to do anything (once I'd started something, I'd immediately think of something else and have my attention diverted to or drawn by that).

I did become rather disgusted by the amount of food that I ate. I'm not sure that I was actually hungry (not like with MJ where I would be ravenous), but I kept eating because of the 'novelty' of trying new bits of food.

Tom
 
Ziiirp said:
Aah, many thanks, Xorkoth. Then I misunderstood. I thought I'd have to take my blotters all at once in the next days, before the AL-LAD degrades into something else. :D

As you have experience with both : Could you perhaps briefly compare the effects of this to those of 2c-e ? I just take 2c-e as reference, as it is the last (and one of the serious) psychedelic I've consumed and never had any lysergamide (I know I'm a virgin by Steve Job's definition).

And in general, are there any serious differences between the effects of the lysergic acid RCs ?
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Hmm, 2C-E and lysergamides are quite different. In general I find 2C-E to be quite neutral in character, and very intensely psychedelic to all my senses and my thoughts. 2C-E is way stronger than AL-LAD and a more powerful psychedelic. AL-LAD is, for me, a euphoric, giggly state of mind, with interesting visuals quite distinct from LSD or anything else I've tried, with interesting and amusing effects on thought.

As for the differences between LSD analogues, I find 1p-LSD and ALD-52 to be fairly indistinguishable from LSD, but ETH-LAD and AL-LAD are both distinct, unique chemicals that are substantially different enough from LSD to make them all worthwhile for different reasons. AL-LAD is the most different I think, and also the most euphoric.
 
Thanks for the enlightenment man. Sounds like 4-HO-MET then regarding lack of seriousness. I thought it is close to the real deal, should have paid attention on the second letter. =D
 
I really like AL-LAD though. I have also read of some people having really deep experiences on both AL-LAD and 4-HO-MET (separately I mean), even though both of them seem rather shallow to me. ETH-LAD on the other hand is quite psychedelic.
 
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