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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3

Yes, it's an unbelievable combination. Not sure I could handle myself in public though.
When I tried it I had multiple strong peaks unlike anything I've ever experienced.
The AL-LAD definitely intensifies the euphoric aspect of the trip, yet keeps you grounded in some odd way (IME anyway!)

Noticed the same downside - was too wired to sleep for what felt like an eternity.
If it wasn't for that I'd dose myself tomorrow!


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al-lad is a very reproducible positive trip with little depth but great sensory input.

its the best for clubbing, really fun to dance on with a lack of paranoia which is good for overcrowded dingy venues with poor lighting and rough crowds dancing to jungle and drum n bass. mixes well with phenibut
 
The Shadow Self said:
For what it's worth, I know that many people found lower doses of AL to be less than thrilling. I know that I've gotten it from "the" places that most other people got them from, and I didn't really enjoy it until I went beyond 300 ug.
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Totally my experience too. I did 150 and it was pretty lame thought i maybe was tired or too soon from last acid trip. Then i did 150 again and had same results. I was going to give up on AL-LAD but decided to up the dose and then found it's one of my favorites. If you are taking lots you really kind of have to buy sheets with this because it's expensive if you are taking 3-4 hits at a time and paying the highest price for a little strip. 1p is more bang for your buck I only take one hit of that at a time.
 
So would you say depth and mind-effect wise it compares to something like 4-HO-MET?
I was always a little hesitant and afraid with dosing since I'm not really into super deep psychedelics and just looking for some fun. 4-HO-MET was pretty optimal for that. Will AL-LAD be as well?

btw, can sign whats been said above me on dosing (75ug wasteful, 150ug boring with bodyload, 225ug still not very interesting).
 
Personally I found 150µg entirely worthwhile, even at around 25µg it was slightly trippy. But at 150µg it was still pretty light so I can see where people are coming from who find it underwhelming. I haven't gone above that.
 
my group is doing 600ug plus now weekly. i tend to start at 300ug and move to another 300ug 90 minutes later. but some of the harder heads in the group seem to be less sensitive and have to 450ug plus to even get above baseline. i agree with above posters as this seems to build tolerance. i found ETH stronger per dose and dont remember gaining much of a tolerance. this week we try 1p for the first time. i worry because the others think they need to start high because of their AL experiences.
 
Without much tolerance, i took 450 mcg of this stuff, and by two hours i wasn't sure i was feeling much of anything at all, but then i looked at the ceiling and it blew my mind. Black shadow clouds and swirling points that aggregate mass, i looked back at my monitor, and thought, holy fuck i could pass as sober right now.

There was no body-load of any sort, and the head felt very clear. When i got up and moved about i knew something was off by t+ 2:30, when i noticed a strange kind of music that seemed to be playing in the background somewhere faint.

I found myself able to read and digest information, i got this idea in my head that i wanted to learn how one could calculate the outside perimeter length of a fractal, i didn't figure it out, but i learned so much about these wonderful mathematical monsters that i could have not done on any other lysergamide. Apparently the length and boundary of a fractal depends on how big your measuring stick is, the smaller of a unit you can measure in, the larger it becomes, which seems paradoxical.
 
For me, 2 tabs of AL is good, 3 is better but not wise in public, and 5 is the threshold of a break with reality.

Peacephrog1972 said:
I wish that was so....me and everyone I have dosed in 1P need 2-3 to get off, with 1 barely doing anything
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Metabolismmmmmmmm
 
FATHOMZ said:
my group is doing 600ug plus now weekly. i tend to start at 300ug and move to another 300ug 90 minutes later. but some of the harder heads in the group seem to be less sensitive and have to 450ug plus to even get above baseline. i agree with above posters as this seems to build tolerance. i found ETH stronger per dose and dont remember gaining much of a tolerance. this week we try 1p for the first time. i worry because the others think they need to start high because of their AL experiences.
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All psychedelics build tolerance (to other psychedelics as well).
 
After reading about as much as I could on these 3 newish lysergamides, I decided to try 1P first out of these 3, I took 150ug and was blown away and enjoyed the trip. What a powerhouse! I put in an order instantly to try the AL-LAD and ETH-LAD after further reading, it arrived today and I plan on dosing this weekend.
A basic summary from my reading comparing to LSD.. AL-LAD is shorter acting in duration, a less intrusive head-space, easy going, less potent, more visual, euphoric, giggly. Where ETH is more potent, most are considering it almost empathogenic, produces nausea in some, especially higher doses, very connecting, "spiritual" rewarding experience, with intense visuals and less of a sinister head-space.
So I thought, why not combine the 2. I was considering trying 150ug AL-LAD with 50ug of ETH-LAD. I haven't found too many reports at all of this combo, if anyone has tried it would love to hear their experience, if not I will let you guys know mine soon enough.
 
^ yes please report back on the combo eclipse3130, I've been really wondering about that one, and don't think I've noticed a single report.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the ratio you suggest, but I think it will be leaning to the AL-LAD side at those doses. Personally, I would shoot for an even balance of the two, which I'd say would be something like 100µg of AL-LAD with 75µg of ETH-LAD. I think probably just dose them at the same time - the eth first hits over half hour to an hour, and then has a second plateau around 2h, AL-LAD creeps in over about 2h from what I remember. Ideally you'd want to try each one independently first so that you can understand how they combine better.

Edit: I think the ratio I gave above might be a little ETH-LAD heavy. Maybe the balanced combo would be more like 50µg ETH-LAD with 100µg AL-LAD. Hard to say, and I'm interested to see what others think.
 
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Thanks for the advice, yeah I decided to just experience them for themselves. Will mix at later dates, but for now I'm set on 150ug of AL-LAD for a trial run. Will report back
 
Tried 150ug last night. It was very mild and boring. I'd equate it to about 75ug of real lsd. Had some visuals such as painting moving a little, my emojis on my phone moving up and down (always happens) and my phone lock screen which is of the universe was moving as well. Expected way less deepness but I got super sucked into the movie speed racer. Taking 450ug in about 3 weeks
 
It seems this stuff has an unusually long tolerance, 14 days with no psychedelics after trying 150ug of AL-LAD prior I took 200ug and didn't have anything to show for, I just had an odd sensation in my neck throughout, it never developed into anything, at all. Must be more of a dopaminergic agonist, read elsewhere needs 4 weeks to reset.
 
I have also found that AL-LAD has a ridiculously long return to baseline and has a wicked cross-tolerance with other psychs. I have to wait 2 to 3 weeks to drop anything and truly feel it, and even if I wait 2 weeks, it seems like I have to take way more AL to get the same effects. It almost has a perma-tolerance feel to me, at least. I've wasted a good amount of AL- ETH-LAD and LSD not waiting long enough between trips. It's the only downside to AL, for me. For those that think AL is "boring", start getting into the 600+ug range with it. It will fuck up your program. Not recommending it unless you really feel like taking big doses like that. I think that AL has been under-estimated by some that don't venture into high dose territory. I've done a ten strip with tolerance and it was something, I'll tell you. And 6 to 900 with no tolerance can be pretty damn earth shattering, with some of the best CEVs and OEVs you'll ever see.
 
Took 450ug last night. Craziest visuals I've ever seen more than regular lsd. Little rainbow circles appearing out of the person's head I was with. Then everything looked like the matrix like all green and with numbers. Disappointed that the peak seemed be crazy short like 1.5 - 2 hours after that it was basically 5 more hours of minor distortions with no introspectiveness which was kind of boring for me but I'm sure would still be interesting for a novice tripper
 
Also had a buddy go for 400ug and was crazy visual intense for him. I wonder what the cause is for such a long tolerance reset, it has a hefty cross tolerance with the other lysergamides as well. The day after I took 200ug of AL, I tried 300ug of 1P thinking it would have to do something because I felt absolutely nothing from the 200, ended up feeling like a micro dose at best. I wonder how long it will be for my tolerance to baseline.
 
I've got a couple questions about AL-LAD, so anyone feel free to chip in (or not :))

I've tried LSZ @ 75, 150 and 225 ug. A complete bust. Blotters were either weakly laid, degraded (doubtful considering how I stored them) or my body just didn't take to it. 1P-LSD from 25-200 ug (tolerable at all doses, although stomach felt a bit weirdish when I first tried it in July/15....not so now). Eth-LAD once at 100 ug. That kind of snuck up on me. I wasn't expecting much, and for the first 60 minutes it was that - nothing. Then it clicked in suddenly like I've found Salvia to do when I used that.

So I've managed to obtain some 150 ug doses of AL-LAD and was intending on taking 150 ug after a 6 week break from any Lysergamides. Is that a reasonable amount of time for a tolerance reset?

Last question - how stimulating mentally is this? With 1P-LSD I was easily able to stay awake , stretching a Friday working day out to 24 hours total wake time (waking up at 6:30 am, going to work, coming home and then dropping at 6:30 pm). Actually I found it to be close to ideal for dealing with hypersomnia. When I first tried 1P-LSD I didn't like the fact that I couldn't sleep on it; and now I rather welcome it because I end up getting more done, even if it is pointless stuff.

thanks for any information, tips or pointers.

Tom

[Oh yeah....how is the overall appetite on this?]
 
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