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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3

MedicinalHeroin said:
Losing the ability to identify common things like numbers is always a funny part of tripping. I remember once at a low dose of LAD I had to stop playing poker with my friends because I had to keep asking someone "what number is this?" on the cards!
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I have a vivd memory related to usage of LSD and time.

I remember the LSD was coming on, peaking. I tried to determine the exact time since ingestion and tried to record the current time.
I had an old style analog clock. The thing made no damn sense to me. I did not understand why there were 12 numbers on it. Why 12? Why not 10? Or 24? I knew one revolution of the hand was 60 minutes, but why would 60 minutes equal one hour? What is with the 12 numbers? Every time the number increments, there is an extra 5 minutes that had passed. It made absolutely no sense at all. I couldn't determine how much time had passed from 12:30 until 1:50. It was utterly maddening. What was time? Who decided on this arbitrary fucked up way of record keeping? What did it mean when the little hand was between numbers? How can anyone ever be sure what, where, and when they are, precisely? Wouldn't this information be required to make an accurate assumption about your place, and when? You would never read the current time, as by the time you read it, more time had already passed.

I went into a full-blown crisis over this, so desperately trying to figure out the passage of time. It did not help that at some instances the clock seemed to be moving backwards, or not moving at all. It was so absolutely frustratingly hellish. I was sure time did not exist anymore. Then i got the fear. What happened if time stopped? How could it be started again, if in the absence of time, you were not able to formulate the intent to do something about it? Would you be forever stuck in a timeless world, with nothing ever happening ever again?

Madness! I took a pendulum, tied it to my bed lamp, and pushed it. The soothing swinging undulations reassured me, that time was indeed still passing, and i gave up all endeavours related to making sense of time.

The memory of this still trips me up sometimes when looking at a clock.
 
rave23 said:
Madness! I took a pendulum, tied it to my bed lamp, and pushed it. The soothing swinging undulations reassured me, that time was indeed still passing, and i gave up all endeavours related to making sense of time.
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Haha, I really liked your solution ! That's a cool story (:
 
I don't quite understand why, but in the midst of an acid peak i always so frantically try to ground myself with something, somehow. I can't just let go and drift with it. I HAVE to know the world out there is still normal.
 
time can only stop if you move at the speed of light relative to something. now try to think about that while tripping :D
 
Thinking of giving this a try. From reading this whole thread, it seems like there is a huge dose curve. I'd be inclined to think maybe the blotters are not uniformly laid.
I wonder if 1P is more uniform in its dose response?
Anyone have experience with both care to comment?
 
I don't know, I just think there is variability in individual response. I've done AL-LAD five times and it has always given me the expected results... I've had it from two different batches. My girlfriend hasn't noticed any variability in the tabs neither. I've had a couple of experiences with 1P also, and I would say they are uniformly laid, but in he first big and dandy thread some people were claiming otherwise.
 
No matter what you think, do not take more than one tab at first.

150 mcg is quite a dosage, first time i took 1 1/2 tabs of this stuff and i bit off a bit too much, was not ready.

If these are indeed laid "professionally", and have 150 mcg of AL-LAD on it then that should produce an unmistakable effect.
 
I agree, one should always start with 1 tab if they haven't taken it before. I have a high natural tolerance to lysergamides, always have, I'd take LSD with friends from the same batch and I'd barely feel it while they'd be tripping hard. For me 300ug of AL-LAD feels nice but weak... 150ug is threshold, I barely notice it. 450ug is where it gets good for me. But I wouldn't recommend anyone jump in even close to there for their first time.
 
just got a batch of powder from my vendor who was currently running a sale. i bought eth last time and the powder was a dark sandy color from what i can remember.

the al was dark black looking and almost clumped and stuck alltogether. anyone else have experience with the powder and know the correct color? just wondering if they offered the discount because they got a bad batch or not. thanks for any input!
 
I suspect it's either got a slight impurity (even slight impurities can dramatically color a compound), or it's been around a while and has oxidized a bit and they're trying to get rid of the rest of it. Either way, I've heard that the black AL-LAD is still plenty good. I've never personally seen any of the lysergamide powders so I am just reporting hearsay.
 
Xorkoth said:
I suspect it's either got a slight impurity (even slight impurities can dramatically color a compound), or it's been around a while and has oxidized a bit and they're trying to get rid of the rest of it. Either way, I've heard that the black AL-LAD is still plenty good. I've never personally seen any of the lysergamide powders so I am just reporting hearsay.
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well either way i appreciate your feedback. maybe someone else has gotten the same stuff and can provide some qualitative commentary on it. ::crosses fingers::
 
just had some friends dose 300mics with a 150 redose 90 minutes later. they had a fabulous time with one even reporting full blow hallucinations in the dark outside.
maybe its just myself that is javing trouble with this one. im starting to suspect im using too frequently and building a tolerance fast to this one. will give it a few weeks and see what happens.
 
Mh, i took 1 and 1/4 blotter of 150 mcg AL-LAD yesterday.

There was definitely something, but i couldn't put my finger on it. Visuals were non-existent unless you REALLY focus on something.
There was a fantastic body feeling though, and i got the munchies like crazy. I went through 1 pork chop broccoli mashed potato dinner, 3 Nacho and cheese plates with onion and bacon, 6 twinkies, 1 bag of ruffles sour cream and onion and the remainder of the bag of Doritos that i used to make the nacho plates with. Wow.
Tactile sensation was heightened, head-space sort of half-way there but not really. But holly crap did i feel great physically.

Vision went blurry instead of crisp and clear like with ETH-LAD, and there was no body-load that i can not attribute to the massive amounts of food i ingested. But even then, the food felt soooo good inside me. I smoked some cannabis at what i thought was the peak, but it only enhanced my body-buzz and did nothing whatsoever for the visuals and headspace. I took the most pleasant poo of all time, showering felt orgasmic, and there was no real come-down either. Tactile sensations were amplified, music and sound completely undistorted, but some time-dilation was felt around the three hour mark. Minor.

I went to sleep undisturbed, woke up and felt great. None of that LSD afterglow unfortunately either. Last time i had some lysergic compound was two weeks prior on 250 mcg of ETH-LAD, and that was far more intense and visual mindfuckery than this.

AL-LAD, at this dosage, seems a very easygoing, gentle, light and pleasant compound. It was much more of a mental tonic than a psychedelic at this level. Will try 2 or more hits 2 or so weeks from now.
 
I find it to be easygoing and light at every dosage I've tried (up to 450ug). For me even 2 hits (300ug) is pretty underwhelming but as you say, very enjoyable, but 3 starts to get really good.
 
I am not to say that i was "let down" Xorkoth, but you need to be someone who has worked with lysergamides before to appreciate the effects of it. If i would have never done acid, and 186 mcg of AL-LAD was my first experience, i would swear to you that nothing was happening at all.

But if you have some experience and know what and where to tune into, there is unmistakably something at work very mild and easy going.

So far ETH-LAD seems to produce a more pronounced effect that AL-LAD at similar dosages. And by pronounced i mean qualitatively. I was barely functioning on ETH-LAD, had to take a rest almost the entirety of it and firmly hold on to the trip, but AL-LAD, 3 hours in i could swear i took nothing at all, and push the pseudo-expanded, quasi-intellectual headspace aside. I even picked up a phone-call from work who wanted me to work overtime, near the peak of my experience, on acid, i would have hid in the closet under three blankets if that happened.

AL-LAD was Simple, enjoyable. Maybe i will eat the remaining 3 3/4 tabs all at once then? I don't mind having something have it's way with me for a while.

On another note, AL-LAD seems to be shorter acting compared to ETH-LAD. ETH-LAD was still going at the 12 hour mark for me with the visuals. After 8 hours of AL-LAD i was so comfy on the couch in such a nice and happy place i was drifting in a sleepy blisfull euphoria. Not much at all anymore.


Also i comlained about muscle cramps with ETH-LAD before, especially lower legs and upper thighs, during and after usage, AL-LAD left me feeling completely at ease and no muscle cramps, but a horrendous gut ache that gave birth to a 12 pound baby boy the next day.


Now, i just gotta give 1P-LSD the ol' college try, whaddaya figure? two tabs to start? 1 3/4 of ETH Lad was Strong, 1 1/4 of AL-LAD was Light and Pleasant, but 1P-LSD seems to be dosed lower (100 mcg) as well, so, 2 tabs? Do you have any experience Xorkoth you can share with me? I am not worried about taking a little too much and have it get strong on me, i am more concerned with taking a little bit too little and have to wait for tolerances to reset again.
 
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That's what i thought. Should i bother to ask for a comparison to the other two lysergamides here, or do you figure i should take that over to the 1P-LSD thread?
 
For whatever it's worth, I think, based on using Al over the course of 2+ years, that you build a wicked tolerance from it/to it rapidly, and you have to take longer breaks than even LSD to avoid having to take more and more. I got to a point where I was using it every two weeks and after about 2 months of that, I was up to a whopping 750ug to get where I wanted. Yes, I am a hard-head, and yes, I like to trip hard, and yes, AL seems to be such an easy going chemical (for me) that large doses don't phase me or make me anxious. Having stopped for a while (about a month) I did some LSD, very good LSd at that, and quite a bit of it (400ug) and my trip was definitely not what it should have been. As others have speculated, there's a strong cross-tolerance with other similar psychedelics brought about by AL that seems longer lasting than that of other drugs in it's class such as ETH-LAD, 1P-LSD, LSZ, and LSD. Just a theory, but I was, at one point, saying to myself, "What happened to these tabs?", when, in fact, I just built up a tolerance that required having to take fuck-tons of it to trip properly. Just food for thought...
 
Just wanted to chime in here and say AL-LAD really goes well with LSD! Holy shit! I was at a tool show on 300ug AL, when I was feeling the vibe or something and dosed 2 hits of L - the synergy was beautiful! The visuals seemed brighter and shinier, almost like everything was super glossy plastic. The only slight downside(for me at the time) was the stimulation and duration was increased. I didn't come down until about 14 hours in the next morning, but it was worth it. I've been experimenting with AL for a while now, and it seems pretty shallow on its own, so it was refreshing to have the LSD bring the depth to the fantastically-smooth AL experience - and I was surprised how the two different effects merged into one unique effect. Highly recommended, but plan for a kinda long ride!
 
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