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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3

This whole thread is intriguing, I have not yet (deliberately) ingested any lysergamide RC - although I continue to eat LSD probably more often than I really need to. I have quite a few pet "projects" going on at the moment, although I may be interested in either buying some 14lb watercolor paper or some blotter art and laying a few sheets of one of these novel chems, assuming that I can find them in their pure form somewhere on the darknet. I see that there is some inconsistency with dosage & effect here with the AL-LAD, I guess I will browse these forums and trip reports and try to determine what the "best" (subjective, I know) lysergamide RC is out there that will suit my purposes. I am open to suggestions as well, and may also consider just making the liquid solution and dosing it from a vial...
 
I'm quite inexperienced with psychedelia. I have done two low dose and one moderate dosed mushroom trips. I've done al-lad 2 times, 150 ug the first time and 225 the second and I have tried 1p-lsd once, 50 ug.

The first time al-lad I experienced only minor effects. A few closed eyed visuals, colours were a bit brighter and a good lift in mood. I ate a big breakfast just before and after 5 minutes having the blotter under my tongue I tried chewing up the blotter, but it became a small hard ball. I swallowed the blotter.

225 ug was a different story. I took that on an empty stomach and held the blotter under my tongue for 20 minutes before swallowing.
I was tripping unexpectedly hard. With 3 dimensional shapes floating in mid air. It was manageable though, but I was glad I was at home.

Next week the liberation of our city is celebrated and I would like to try 150ug of al- lad again to see if I did something wrong. If there is little effect after 1.5 hours I want to take 75 mg MDMA to ensure I have a good time. This is half the MDMA I normally take.

Do you guy's think that there is a big chance that the experience will be to overwhelming?
I think that 225ug will be to much for me to do in public.

There will be a big carnival lots of live music and a large fireworks show.

Other options are half a tab eth-lad or a tab of 1p-lsd.
 
What's the consensus about oral vs sublingual activity?

Just speaking from personal experience, directly swallowing half a standard 150µg tab provided absolutely no noticeable effects (with zero tolerance), whereas (in another trial), sublingual administration of the other half of that same tab showed clear activity.
 
I don't do sub-lingual, and don't even cheek it. I swallow it (usually between 450 and 600 ug) and I trip hard. Comes up within 35 to 40 min, with anything after an hour intense enough to find a place, with a heady, strong trip coming, and not go anywhere.
 
Ate 1/3rd of a 150µg tab last night at a nightclub, mainly to stay awake while suffering from jet lag. I enjoyed a decently mild trip, small amount of nausea but relatively stimulated & trippy mindset for 6 hours. Small amount of visual effects, nice body high. The party was overcrowded so it was kind of perfect not to be too high.
 
^haha! I did the exact same thing at a festival in Colorado! I was so dabbed out of my mind that I couldn't even keep my eyes open, so I took about 1/3 of a hit of allacid just to freaking wake up and was surprised with a nice low level trip. I didn't think that I'd even feel that low of dose 50ug!
 
AL-LAD's duration makes this chemical especially attractive. I prefer slightly shorter experiences than LSD and this could be an alternative. Several of y'all have had this chemical awhile. Is this chemical also as potent as LSD? Compared with LSD, is this chemical at least as stable?
 
AL-LAD is certainly less potent than LSD, I'm guessing it is about half as potent, but I think it does depend on which part of the dose curve you're talking about. 150µg seems less potent than a typical street tab of LSD purported to be 100µg (but likely 60-100µg).

From reports it seems like AL-LAD may be harder to handle at high doses than LSD is, making me think that it might be less efficient, but be a more effective agonist ultimately. As in, it's a partial agonist, but maybe on the scale between partial agonist and full agonist, a little bit more towards the full end of the spectrum than LSD is, yet at the same time less potent per µg than LSD in the middle of the dose range. Just conjecture.
 
Yes it's less potent, probably roughly half as potent like perpetual said. It seems similarly stable also though I have no proof. I have had some hits for a while and last time I tried one it was still just as good.
 
found this chem pretty enjoyable the few times I took it by itself, albeit a little weak (even at higher doses). However, I'd like to warn everyone, I would strongly advise AGAINST comboing w/ 25x (IME, 25c). While comboing it with LSZ proved to be an incredible, flooring, beautiful experience, AL-LAD was horrific (BOTH times - can't believe I tempted fate again!) - some truly scary thought loops, as well as cutting in and out of consciousness and uncontrollable intrusive thoughts. Oh, and nasty brain zaps. Just a real unpleasant ordeal that seemed to last an eternity, despite a rapid recession of effects after 2 hours.
 
Hey guysvib have a question why v is the al lad crystal so damn dark? I was always told the more white the lsd the better. For example the best lsd called needlepoint is <99% pure. and as the name says under a microscope it looks like needlepoints. Its white in color then there is fluff which is <99% pure.
Then the color changes to a silverish color and most of the time you will be getting that need point is really hard to find because the yield is probably lower and the chemist will keep it.
Then it gets dark there is another grade called Amber crystal its still good but as you get less or this less clean people find the lsd to be. There is other crystal lsd that v is as dark as the al lad, I have never seen it but all who have say it is super dirty feeling.
The first and only time I tried it I tried 2 hits and felt nothing but I think the benzos I had Messed it up. I want to try it again but its dark and the purity of this is less than 1p lsd which is <99% and eth lad 99℅ and they are both white crystal. The al lad however is <97% and listed as dark grey powder. So I guess it's really dark siverish in color.
I'm think shulgin described it as a white crystal.
Possibly if <99% grade al lad was made the dosage will go down? Because it's expensive compared to lsd. Butthe visuals it what interests me the most about this I have heard they are quite strong.
Anyway having to take 3 tabs at a time to get a good trip for 6 hours isn't ideal.
 
Bigazznugz said:
Hey guysvib have a question why v is the al lad crystal so damn dark? I was always told the more white the lsd the better. For example the best lsd called needlepoint is <99% pure. and as the name says under a microscope it looks like needlepoints. Its white in color then there is fluff which is <99% pure.
Then the color changes to a silverish color and most of the time you will be getting that need point is really hard to find because the yield is probably lower and the chemist will keep it.
Then it gets dark there is another grade called Amber crystal its still good but as you get less or this less clean people find the lsd to be. There is other crystal lsd that v is as dark as the al lad, I have never seen it but all who have say it is super dirty feeling.
The first and only time I tried it I tried 2 hits and felt nothing but I think the benzos I had Messed it up. I want to try it again but its dark and the purity of this is less than 1p lsd which is <99% and eth lad 99℅ and they are both white crystal. The al lad however is <97% and listed as dark grey powder. So I guess it's really dark siverish in color.
I'm think shulgin described it as a white crystal.
Possibly if <99% grade al lad was made the dosage will go down? Because it's expensive compared to lsd. Butthe visuals it what interests me the most about this I have heard they are quite strong.
Anyway having to take 3 tabs at a time to get a good trip for 6 hours isn't ideal.
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If you're disappointed with the potency of the 97% pure AL-LAD, tear off 9% of an blotter to get the missing 15mcg. Or don't take benzos when you trip.
 
I just heard a report from someone who said their ETH-LAD crystal was black, and you're saying it's white. Is there some oxidation happening after it's been exposed to air/light for long enough?
 
Okay so if you go to the only supplier that has 1p eth lad and al lad and click details you can find this info.
1p lsd <99% white fluffy crystalline powder
Eth lad <97% grey powder
Al lad <97% DARK grey powder
In going on the assumption that the darker the crystal the more impure the synthesis.
Here is a picture for reference
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...d=0CCsQMygOMA5qFQoTCKKdtvmk7MgCFUgvJgod420N1w
 
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Hi guys

I bough some blotter from the most known shop just before the ban (so, not the fist batch). The big white blotter, with the name writen on it. I fell that these blotters are really dosed lower than other I got previously from another source.

There is really a big difference, if I consider that the one of my other source are at 150ug, the one "with name on it" seems to be at 100ug, probably less.
I use to take 1,5 blotter with the first one to reach my sweet spot, and with 2,5 blotter from the other, it is still weaker.
I tried many time each batch, so it's not a set and setting cause or something else....

I am the only one to find the blotter "with the name on it" of the last batch pretty weak ?
 
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I would edit out all sources, which pretty much means delete your post. Naming sources is against the rules.
 
Ok, sorry, i didn't know....

It's now corrected, thanks for the advice.
 
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Thanks for editing. :) Welcome to PD.

I have only tried AL-LAD with the name printed on it from some time ago, so I can't comment on any differences in potency.
 
I've tried the official blotters many times and all felt like the doses were equal on all.
 
For what it's worth, I know that many people found lower doses of AL to be less than thrilling. I know that I've gotten it from "the" places that most other people got them from, and I didn't really enjoy it until I went beyond 300 ug. Now, I am a hard head, and prefer about 450ug of AL, but even when my tolerance was non-existent, one tab that was alleged to be 150ug was nothing to write home about. But...when I pushed the envelope with it, it shined, especially at 450 to 600, like I said. Having said that, I don't even enjoy LSD the way I want unless I am above 300ug as well, and like 400 to 500ug preferably. But that's me, and I don't recommend high dosing unless you know what you're doing.
 
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