The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

[CavernsoftheMind]

I'm looking for the right benzofuran to roll on this Friday.
It'll be me & a friend taking it in her room.

I'm looking for a chill, romantic evening & night, mostly lying in bed & listening to music.
On the comedown, we maybe want to take some ketamine.

I have 3 options available to me. Haven't tried any benzofuran yet. We both are experienced with MDMA & love it.

- 6-APB (I guess we'd take 80mg each for our first time & redose 2h later with 30-60mg if it's not strong enough?)

- 5-APB

- Borax Combo "Pink Stars" Pellets (with 70mg 5-MAPB, 2mg 5-MeO-MiPT & 20mg 2-FMA)

What would you recommend at what dose?
We're not needing a lot of stimulation. We won't rave. More like talking, cuddling, vibing & maybe fucking.

 

[Jmoda]

I'm looking for the right benzofuran to roll on this Friday.
It'll be me & a friend taking it in her room.

I'm looking for a chill, romantic evening & night, mostly lying in bed & listening to music.
On the comedown, we maybe want to take some ketamine.

I have 3 options available to me. Haven't tried any benzofuran yet. We both are experienced with MDMA & love it.

- 6-APB (I guess we'd take 80mg each for our first time & redose 2h later with 30-60mg if it's not strong enough?)

- 5-APB

- Borax Combo "Pink Stars" Pellets (with 50mg 5-MAPB, 2mg 5-MeO-MiPT & 20mg 2-FMA)

What would you recommend at what dose?
We're not needing a lot of stimulation. We won't rave. More like talking, cuddling, vibing & maybe fucking.

I would personally go with the borax combo. 6apb for me is much more suited for a night out raving. 5mapb itself is way more intimate and the combo will round the experience out nicely by providing some magic push for the music and such.

 

[CavernsoftheMind]

I would personally go with the borax combo. 6apb for me is much more suited for a night out raving. 5mapb itself is way more intimate and the combo will round the experience out nicely by providing some magic push for the music and such.

Thanks!
Would you say we should take a whole pellet?
I read somewhere that 50mg 5-MAPB alone can be a lot for some people.

So I guess I'd feel safer to take half or 3/4 first & redose the other half / 1/4 1-2h later.
Is that reasonable?

 

[Jmoda]

Thanks!
Would you say we should take a whole pellet?
I read somewhere that 50mg 5-MAPB alone can be a lot for some people.

So I guess I'd feel safer to take half or 3/4 first & redose the other half / 1/4 1-2h later.
Is that reasonable?

I would personally. 50mg will be equivalent to about 100mg of MDMA. Maybe a bit more with the borax stuff added in, but that’s just me.

Whatever you do, do not take more after the ~1.5h mark of 5mapb. There are some horror stories, so if you do decide to split and redose, see how you’re feeling at 1h and then make a decision.

 

[deficiT]

I'm looking for the right benzofuran to roll on this Friday.
It'll be me & a friend taking it in her room.

I'm looking for a chill, romantic evening & night, mostly lying in bed & listening to music.
On the comedown, we maybe want to take some ketamine.

I have 3 options available to me. Haven't tried any benzofuran yet. We both are experienced with MDMA & love it.

- 6-APB (I guess we'd take 80mg each for our first time & redose 2h later with 30-60mg if it's not strong enough?)

- 5-APB

- Borax Combo "Pink Stars" Pellets (with 70mg 5-MAPB, 2mg 5-MeO-MiPT & 20mg 2-FMA)

What would you recommend at what dose?
We're not needing a lot of stimulation. We won't rave. More like talking, cuddling, vibing & maybe fucking.

I'm probably not familiar enough with benzofurans to make a great suggestion, have never done 5apb and only ever went through a couple grams of 6apb. But I definitely preferred 5mapb in general, it definitely felt like a more full empathogen, 6apb, I mean it's ok but to me it wasn't particularly euphoric, just kinda felt like a sorta sparkly mild Amphetamine or phenethylamine (while not even feeling as euphoric as standard amphetamine).

I would personally go with that combo, but I've also tried All that stuff, and I like 5meomipt and 2fma is ok as a stim, so that just sounds like a more full experience. 6apb was underwhelming for me in those types of doses, but I may have had a mediocre batch and I also do just have bit of natural tolerance to those kinds of drugs. If you're comfortable with the environment you'll be in, and are experienced with psychs, stims, And empathogens, it should be ok.

But you may want to start with half of those pills, just in case you have more intense reaction to the benzofuran than you'd expect

 

[CavernsoftheMind]

We decided to take 5-APB.

First 55mg, since it was our first time with a benzofuran. Then a 40mg booster 2h later, followed by a final 60mg dose another hour later.

It was magnificent. Therapeutic, bonding, euphoric, spiritual & rational.

We started to inhale N2O an hour after taking the third dose, which catapulted us into pure bliss & empathy, interesting thoughts & ego dissolution.
It was way better than my past experiences with MDMA + N2O.

It was beautiful.

Next time I'd take 90mg 5-APB initially.

We still felt loaded 9h after the third dose.
Got to sleep only 12h after the last dose, being awake 26h.

I feel a bit tired, but mostly fine after 4h of sleep. Still have some empathogenic afterglow.

 

[goaway12345]

I thought this got banned
Also I miss that vendor overseas that had about 20 different chemicals on the left hand side, products were top notch and they arrived in 5 days.

 

[Esperighanto]

On the comedown, we maybe want to take some ketamine.

The only benzofuran I've used is 6-APB (was sold as 5-APB about a year and a half ago, but was mislabeled), but have mixed it with ketamine and countless other dissociatives before. I often describe 6-APB as stimmier, less psychedelic MDA that feels more like amphetamine or a phenidate than it does methamphetamine, which is how I'd describe MDMA instead. Mixing 6-APB with ketamine/NMDA antagonists, or salvia really added some magic back to the experience in a way that it lacks when compared to MDA or MDMA. My favorite 6-APB combination was with 2C-B, 2F-DCK and a whippet tank.

 

[Jmoda]

The only benzofuran I've used is 6-APB (was sold as 5-APB about a year and a half ago, but was mislabeled), but have mixed it with ketamine and countless other dissociatives before. I often describe 6-APB as stimmier, less psychedelic MDA that feels more like amphetamine or a phenidate than it does methamphetamine, which is how I'd describe MDMA instead. Mixing 6-APB with ketamine/NMDA antagonists, or salvia really added some magic back to the experience in a way that it lacks when compared to MDA or MDMA. My favorite 6-APB combination was with 2C-B, 2F-DCK and a whippet tank.

Well you’ve certainly given me some ideas now. Do you take the 2c-b before or after the 6apb? And how much 2cb?

 

[Esperighanto]

Well you’ve certainly given me some ideas now. Do you take the 2c-b before or after the 6apb? And how much 2cb?

I'm a psychedelic hardhead who trips way the fuck too much and who's spent a ton of time with 2C-B, so I usually would end up using anywhere from 50-100mg of 2C-B throughout the night. Open up with a bump or small line of 15-25mg, put 45mg in a cotton candy Faygo, and just sip it throughout the night, considering further insufflation.

Using 2C-B before 6-APB helped me to enter the roll with a better headspace since I fucking love 2C-B and it's tough to feel down when on it, however taking the 6-APB first and then the 2C-B while rolling balls is pretty fun and it makes the roll feel 10-12 hours long all together. I suspect that the latter, or just tripping before/during/after the roll, lead to the best integration after all is said and done.

 

[higherconciousness]

I'm a psychedelic hardhead who trips way the fuck too much and who's spent a ton of time with 2C-B, so I usually would end up using anywhere from 50-100mg of 2C-B throughout the night. Open up with a bump or small line of 15-25mg, put 45mg in a cotton candy Faygo, and just sip it throughout the night, considering further insufflation.

Using 2C-B before 6-APB helped me to enter the roll with a better headspace since I fucking love 2C-B and it's tough to feel down when on it, however taking the 6-APB first and then the 2C-B while rolling balls is pretty fun and it makes the roll feel 10-12 hours long all together. I suspect that the latter, or just tripping before/during/after the roll, lead to the best integration after all is said and done.

See I tried 6-apb over ten years, and I recall having some very intricate psychedelic visuals. The degree of psychedelia fluctuated with my 6 or so trials, but all of them had a visual aspect to them.

Fast forward 14 years ahead and I don’t get many visuals from psychs at all. MDMA makes me feel completely dysphoric, however I did manage to try MDA a couple years and that still gets me going. It can cause some perceptible visual effects, but they’re fairly subtle.

I’m torn between buying the 6-APB or MDA. I want to mix them with some psychs. 4-ho-mipt is what I’d prefer, but I can grab some 4-ho-met for cheap. Only issue is its short duration may not coincide with the 6apb/mda. Wanted to go with an easier goin trip, but usually I’d opt for LSD.

Would you say MDA or 6-APB mixes better with psychs/disso/etc.? I have 100mg of 25b-NBOH, but that’s a sketchy one to do or combine.

 

[Esperighanto]

See I tried 6-apb over ten years, and I recall having some very intricate psychedelic visuals. The degree of psychedelia fluctuated with my 6 or so trials, but all of them had a visual aspect to them.

Fast forward 14 years ahead and I don’t get many visuals from psychs at all. MDMA makes me feel completely dysphoric, however I did manage to try MDA a couple years and that still gets me going. It can cause some perceptible visual effects, but they’re fairly subtle.

I’m torn between buying the 6-APB or MDA. I want to mix them with some psychs. 4-ho-mipt is what I’d prefer, but I can grab some 4-ho-met for cheap. Only issue is its short duration may not coincide with the 6apb/mda. Wanted to go with an easier goin trip, but usually I’d opt for LSD.

Would you say MDA or 6-APB mixes better with psychs/disso/etc.? I have 100mg of 25b-NBOH, but that’s a sketchy one to do or combine.

I would advise against combining 25X-NBXX drugs with any monoamine releaser, such as MDA, MDMA, amphetamine, or methamphetamine. One time I mixed a relatively high dose of 25C-NBOMe, a moderate dose of MDA, and a normal dose of a street Xanny (probably bromazolam). Without the benzo tamping things down, the night might've gone awry, but I'm not going to lie, I had a pretty good time. I would never advise anybody mix these, both alone are toxic and one has led to countless deaths even at very low doses. It was about 4.8mg of 25C-NBOMe, 125mg of MDA, and then that street xanny.

The 6-APB I got was part of that hyper potent batch that went out a couple years ago, which ended up being an isomerically pure batch of 5-APB. Threshold was ~12-15mg, and taking more than 75mg or so was intensely punishing. More punishing than 600mg of pharma Adderall. There was some talk on BL around that time about this batch, it led to some heinous and damaging overdoses because people would get it in and take 150+mg, ending up in pretty rough shape. This shit would often last 10-12 hours, redosing would push it easily past 24 hours of noticeable effects. It was starkly non-visual compared to MDA, but was relatively on par with MDMA's mild visuals (tracers, color enhancement, equivalent to maybe ~75ug of LSD).

MDA almost always mixes better with things than 6-APB, but 6-APB lasts way longer, has more stimulation, and less visuals. I found MDA significantly more empathogenic and "love-inducing" if that makes sense. For mixing with 4-substituted tryptamines, I would highly suggest MDA, as the timelines line up better and I find MDA to be more rewarding in general.

 

[Lysergamidic]

Would like to share my first exprience with 6apb with the community.

Mdma is probably my all time favourite substance but was always real into taking it reponsibly going as far as to rerock anything id get before consumig in order to be 100% sure id be consuming as pure a substance as i could.

Sadly lost the contact and havent managed to find any only pills and after reagent testing none of the ones i managed to find made me think it was worthwhile trying to do an acetone wash and crystalize what was there.

So i found out about 6apb and got some 100mg pills to experiment. I was extra cautious and only took 1 and a redose of half 2h later (big fella weighing 240 pounds).

While i know i should have probably taken 2x considering my body weight it was a good first intro. I spent a good 3h dancing with a friend by the lake shirt off and everyting to old school bassline tunes, the wobbles felt nice.

It was very gentle and had a few of those mdma like waves of euphoria, but i didnt roll hard. I miss absolutely off my tits on mdma smoking joint after joint and dancing real hard for spells when the music really begs to do it.

I will try a much bigger those next time(probably 2 pills and 1 for redose) and will try getting some in crystal form rather than pills so i can dose more precisely if next session goes as i hope.

The drug was real clean tho, come up took a while but there was nothing speedy or dirty to it come down was real gentle and was able to go to sleep 8h after last dose so happy days.

Looking forward to keep discoveing this substance as well as 5mapb, hoping to find something i can be rolling balls hard off feeling ridiculous bursts of pure happiness and euphoric bliss.

Thanks for reading and would appreciate any comments/advice and such.

 

[Esperighanto]

I will try a much bigger those next time(probably 2 pills and 1 for redose) and will try getting some in crystal form rather than pills so i can dose more precisely if next session goes as i hope.

If you can't find crystal, don't hesitate to crush up x amount of pills, weigh that pile of crushed up pills, put it in a container and shake the shit out of it, and then whatever dosage x amount of pills should've added up to, you can now consider somehwat "ghettoishly homogenized", to try to get them more even. Pill pressing is incredibly difficult to do accurately, and when friends of mine in college would get ecstasy pills in groups of like, 50-100 tablets, they'd reagent test little chunks of say 5% of the batch, and then crush them all up, homogenize as I'd mentioned, and then divide the total crushed up weight by how many tablets they had, and they'd put the powder in gel caps.

It's also worthwhile to learn how to recrystallize your ecstasy via water recrystallization if you want to get the absolutely cleanest product possible.

 

[Lysergamidic]

If you can't find crystal, don't hesitate to crush up x amount of pills, weigh that pile of crushed up pills, put it in a container and shake the shit out of it, and then whatever dosage x amount of pills should've added up to, you can now consider somehwat "ghettoishly homogenized", to try to get them more even. Pill pressing is incredibly difficult to do accurately, and when friends of mine in college would get ecstasy pills in groups of like, 50-100 tablets, they'd reagent test little chunks of say 5% of the batch, and then crush them all up, homogenize as I'd mentioned, and then divide the total crushed up weight by how many tablets they had, and they'd put the powder in gel caps.

It's also worthwhile to learn how to recrystallize your ecstasy via water recrystallization if you want to get the absolutely cleanest product possible.

Very interesting. So you recommend crushing the pills and stirring them and say if 10 pills were 100 mg of active princple and after crushing they weighed x; divide x by the number of pills and take acordingly? Makes sense that crushing and trying to homogenize as much as possible would be the mixture more well homogenous lol.
I didnt know mdma could be recrystalized with water makes sense tho since it is water soluble. Ive always done with isopropyl and then id crush the crytals and vaccum purge.

Thanks for your input it is greatly appreciated. Have you had much experience with 6apb or 5mapb?

 

[4DQSAR]

I think I've asked this before, but as the benzofurans were made popular after the laws of many nations made 'all ring substituted ampetamines' known or unknown automatically illegal, have people tried other aromatic systems? 1-(1-benzothiophen-6-yl)propan-2-amine for example. I can't find any data or even if the compound has ever been made. But the fact that 4MTA was shown to be active (although had a dangerous side-effect) may suggest that swapping an O for an S at the meta position of the benzene ring may provide for something both active and relatively benign.

 

[Lysergamidic]

Had another try with a bigger dose (2 100mg pills and 1 more after 90 min). Should have waited another week since last session but was too curious to feel its effects propperly.
It was very nice indeed, very similar effects ro mdma indeed but without that overwhelming rush mdma can have at times which i find somewhat unpleasant and can bring nausea. None of that with 6apb. Peak was reached at about 3 to 4h in lasted a a good 2h with waves of euphoria where breathing in deeply and letting out a screaming sigh feels seriosuly amazing. Danced on and off for a good 5h and smoking weed feels crazy nice was chain smoking joints and a couple of cigars.
Was able to sleep about 10h after last dose and sleep was restful. Hangover wise only a slight headache though unsure if it could be becausei literaly drank a good 6l of water while rolling, i wasnt even forcing to drink i was just so thirsty.
The come up is real gentle, the few times i rolled hard were very very pleasant and clean and the come down is gradual and slow.
Pretty sure im a fan of this substance.