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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

dezz said:
Alrighty then, will try this substance at home first just chilling, what dose would you people recommend for someone well experienced with MDMA both low and high doses?
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Friends of mine have been seriously overwhelmed by 100 mg. It's not the same as MDMA. Start low, maybe 50-70 mg. With all due respect to the people saying 100 or more mg, I think that easily has a chance of being too much if one is expecting something very close to MDMA.
 
Yep - 50mg in your own place is cautious & smart for the first time.

Drink lots of water. Don't drink alcohol, you'll be able to drink more and will end-up hung-over.

Aaah.... I love this stuff. Going to have breakfast of 200mgs with my girlfriend on Sunday. Will report.
 
Nor me Morkin, none worth mentioning really on any of the APBs.

Wintermute, Transform's right on ginger but doesn't even need to be fresh. Half a teaspoon dried ginger powder in some hot water was very effective for aMT come-ups, part of my little pre-dosing arsenal along with Loperamide. Works wonders.
 
^true. Dried ginger tea in bags (usually with lemon) is also dandy with nausea.
 
I only say fresh because I've read that powdered is less effective. Never tried it since fresh ginger is cheap and it's nice to slice it thinly and have made it yourself.
 
Sounds worth a go, Transform. It's not like the ginger-teas I've had had nullified AMT nausea.. wouldn't hurt to try it all fresh.
 
I almost forgot how much I hate weighing out this stuff. It's basically like trying to scale out flour with tweezers. By the time I was done it was all over my scale, my desk, me...
 
How long does it take from dose till you can fall asleep? Also what happens with your pupils? I'm talking about a very low starter dose here, 50-100 mgs
 
dezz said:
How long does it take from dose till you can fall asleep? Also what happens with your pupils? I'm talking about a very low starter dose here, 50-100 mgs
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Sleep will be hard without a downer (avoid alcohol for that, too dehydrating). Expect at least 12 hours stimulation. At baseline, half a zopiclone will put me to sleep (I'm not a habitual user, just keep it around for 6-apb downers or rare nights when neighbours are loud), but I'll need about 3 to end a strong (120mgs +) 6-apb come-down (usually 1 to get sleepy, 1 an hour later to get to sleep, 1 again on waking up after 4 hours).

Pupils will dilate. Higher doses make me look like a cartoon character (& I fucking love it, it is so funny - I love interacting with people in slightly ridiculous way with this face & feel like I can be quite cheeky, heh).
 
Hmm, really need to stretch out a day for this I see. Too bad I don't have acces to benzo's, I'm just looking to test it though, see how I react to it. Will 50 mg's keep me stimulated for 12 hours aswell?
 
Sepher said:
Transform's right on ginger but doesn't even need to be fresh. Half a teaspoon dried ginger powder in some hot water was very effective for aMT come-ups, part of my little pre-dosing arsenal along with Loperamide. Works wonders.
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Sepher, I know your talking about aMT, but why Loperamide? Isn't that a bit extreme? Just curious.
 
Less of an issue with the APBs but pretty much any serotonergic will go right through me. AMT is a bitch for it, countless visits to the porcelain throne passing pure liquid waste. Not pleasant. With the APBs and others it's less of an issue while I'm high but the next day is bad for it again, so depending what I'm taking I'll either pre-dose, or dose once well into come-down territory.
 
I agree. I've had the slops the day after APB times. Not terrible, nor pain, but a bit of a nuisance. I don't do anything about it though, except drink water.
 
Sepher said:
Less of an issue with the APBs but pretty much any serotonergic will go right through me. AMT is a bitch for it, countless visits to the porcelain throne passing pure liquid waste. Not pleasant. With the APBs and others it's less of an issue while I'm high but the next day is bad for it again, so depending what I'm taking I'll either pre-dose, or dose once well into come-down territory.
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Wow. Good to know, thanks for your honesty.
 
Anyone ever had 6-apb powder that doesn't have THAT smell? Every previous lot I've had had that strange marmite/fishy smell / taste, and was tan in colour. This new batch was white, and no smell or taste at all. Was a bit worried about it. Anyway me and a mate gulped down 30mg each and headed to the pub. Pretty dam potent! We normally go through 200mg each or so on a night clubbing so are well used to it. But this was like having around 75mg of previous stuff. Handle with care ?
 
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