The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 4)

[Jesusgreen]

Although probably obvious to most, I'd just like to warn that redosing like that will lead to a much more rough comedown. 150mg on its own had a very light comedown that was easy to manage, but 150mg + 100mg redose left me feeling really rough for the next week.

I personally think it'd have been better to drop the whole 250mg at once (or more like 200mg, since this one can put a lot of strain on the heart, and you don't want to overdo it) - because as with most drugs, redosing doesn't quite increase the effects as much as taking it all at once would - but does increase the duration quite a bit.

While a longer peak is great, a redose really only gives you around 2 hours more of peaking, and then gives you about another 3-4 hours of uncomfortable stimulation on the end of what you'd get already before you can sleep.

However, if you have lots of activities planned to keep you busy, you're well fed and rested, not going to be getting tired by the end, have some weed and benzos for the comedown, and are prepared and healthy - go ahead, particularly if you're at an event or such where the extra 2 hours peaking means you get to see another couple sets while at your highest

Edit: Also, I noticed you're just looking at trying this for the first time PsychedelicDoctor, if you haven't tried it before, certainly don't redose your first time, even if you're already experienced with MDxx etc - if you did have a bad comedown/hangover as a result it might put you off further experiments, and I think 6-APB is a really nice one if you treat it with a little respect. This one lasts long enough as it is, and with a single dose you're not going to be getting any sleep for at least 9 hours, more like 11-13+ with higher doses.

 

[coelophysis]

^ Most wise post in this thread in a while.

 

[The King of Beans]

Didn't find it hard to sleep on 6-apb. (Kinda like Shrooms which you can sleep on...but you CAN'T sleep on Acid) Guess everyone's different with this as well, but both me and my girlfriend were able to sleep, even though we hadn't totally come down yet. Even on a higher dose, I actually fell asleep on it early in the experience, last time I took it. I woke up and was all fucked up, peaking. lol dreams are very vivid if u can manage to fall asleep while on the drug. Even days after, I get vivid dreams. I hear many others get this as well and I did also when i did heavy binges on MDMA. Every detail of the dream is just so real, to the voices, the smells, the touch, the pain, etc. Just like real life...so you dont wanna get a nightmare on this shit. But it's kinda common. Usually the dreams aren't good, but I had one that was. I was bummed out when I woke up..

 

[Shifty38]

^ Most wise post in this thread in a while.

Agreed. Should have made that clear myself. Redosing will certainly kick your ass on the come-down. The worst come-down I've had was via 150 6-APB + 30 5-APB and then an extra 80 5-APB at T + 1:45.

 

[jerseybrah]

I like 100mg, then 50mg an hour later. Has me rolling face without overwhelming trippy ess. Anything over 200mg for me is a full on trip. I do however get my 6APB via custom synth

 

[Shifty38]

Does anyone else find that they can switch between rolling and tripping with 6, or have both together. If I want to be 'present,' and enjoy the roll, I can focus on that. If I allow myself, I can drift off into a deeply trippy experience. It's why I love 6 so much. Multi-purpose. I get the impression I'd enjoy MDA although I've never tried it.

 

[tsg28]

Hey all, just posting a warning about a side effect of 6-APB that was previously unknown to me, until it happened to me this Friday.

My girlfriend and I consumed our first doses from a new batch of 6-APB from a vendor we had deemed to be legitimate. We each had a few prior experiences with 6-APB, but with a different vendor. That being the case, we were cautious about this new batch and measured as carefully as we could, took small allergy doses beforehand, etc.

The doses were close to 120mg each, and we didn't redose. We were having a blast, feeling like the experience was consistent with our previous 6-APB experiences, except for the fact that it seemed quite a bit stronger than the previous ones.

Sometime during the peak, around 2-3 hours after dosing, I noticed something strange: my jaw was chattering and would not stop. Instead of chattering sometimes like I've experienced before, it was simply chattering continuously, unless I physically held my jaw shut or clenched my teeth together. If I just held my face still it would just rattle on incessantly. Talking was difficult, drinking difficult, etc. Obviously I became a bit freaked out, wondering what was happening to me. My roommate (who was not rolling, and thus the calmest person in the situation) looked up the symptom and decided it was a muscle tremor caused by "medicine or drug use that acts on serotonin receptors." After a while, I decided to take a half mg dose of Etizolam, which soon (after maybe an hour) stopped the tremor (and calmed me down.)

The next day I was fine, just experienced normal next day symptoms. Nothing weird is happening with my jaw now, but I'm a bit worried about the next time I'll be taking 6-APB or another MDXX chemical.

Has anyone else had this happen to them? Or can anyone share any insight on what happened to me?

 

[Jesusgreen]

I think sometimes with these chemicals you can get side-effects that seem to be more severe than normal. For example my first time with 6-APB I got severe eye wobbles that left me with an eye twitch that persisted for weeks afterwards - but since then with 6-APB, 5-APB and MDMA I've not had that at all. Strange.

I'd suggest magnesium though, it can really help with muscle tension etc

 

[idontdothizz]

Hey all, just posting a warning about a side effect of 6-APB that was previously unknown to me, until it happened to me this Friday.

My girlfriend and I consumed our first doses from a new batch of 6-APB from a vendor we had deemed to be legitimate. We each had a few prior experiences with 6-APB, but with a different vendor. That being the case, we were cautious about this new batch and measured as carefully as we could, took small allergy doses beforehand, etc.

The doses were close to 120mg each, and we didn't redose. We were having a blast, feeling like the experience was consistent with our previous 6-APB experiences, except for the fact that it seemed quite a bit stronger than the previous ones.

Sometime during the peak, around 2-3 hours after dosing, I noticed something strange: my jaw was chattering and would not stop. Instead of chattering sometimes like I've experienced before, it was simply chattering continuously, unless I physically held my jaw shut or clenched my teeth together. If I just held my face still it would just rattle on incessantly. Talking was difficult, drinking difficult, etc. Obviously I became a bit freaked out, wondering what was happening to me. My roommate (who was not rolling, and thus the calmest person in the situation) looked up the symptom and decided it was a muscle tremor caused by "medicine or drug use that acts on serotonin receptors." After a while, I decided to take a half mg dose of Etizolam, which soon (after maybe an hour) stopped the tremor (and calmed me down.)

The next day I was fine, just experienced normal next day symptoms. Nothing weird is happening with my jaw now, but I'm a bit worried about the next time I'll be taking 6-APB or another MDXX chemical.

Has anyone else had this happen to them? Or can anyone share any insight on what happened to me?

lol i get this from every serotonin type drug. even dxm will have my jaw rattling and shaking like crazy.

 

[Keebsington]

^ I get a similar effect on 6-apb, only instead of teeth chattering, my leg seems to shake very rapidly and almost uncontrollably. I can stop it, it just feels really good to do. its knda like when you rush blood to your head, and your head starts to shake quickly.

 

[The King of Beans]

Does anyone else find that they can switch between rolling and tripping with 6, or have both together. If I want to be 'present,' and enjoy the roll, I can focus on that. If I allow myself, I can drift off into a deeply trippy experience. It's why I love 6 so much. Multi-purpose. I get the impression I'd enjoy MDA although I've never tried it.

MDA is completely different than 6-apb in my experience...but I can guarantee you that you will enjoy it. It is like rolling super hard(but I can actually feel the happiness and empathy..unlike with 6-apb) with some minor visuals. It lasts up to 12 hours or longer, to me it feels almost identical to MDMA, just stronger. You can have some awesome nights on MDA. It's been a while since I've done any though.

And to the poster that said anything over 200 mgs is a full on trip, THANK YOU for that info! This may explain why I always tripped off the substance and not rolled. I must of taken too much each time. I will probably wait till I have a scale and then try some again, this time only 100 mg's and see how it is. If it turns out to be like rolling I'll make an update here in this thread. Unfortunately I've never gotten any massive eye wiggles from 6-apb. Only very minor ones. I've gotten eye wiggles from MDMA that would blow the 6-apb experience out of the water though. Those are my favorite. One reason I was looking forward to trying the 6-apb was for the eye wiggles that so many people mentioned getting. You never get eye wiggles from tripping, so I Was sure 6-apb would be like rolling when I heard about that effect. So it was dissapointing that it never happened. But yeah I smoked some weed and took a roxy and it gave me minor ones(Eye wiggles) when mixed when the other drugs.

 

[Jesusgreen]

I think 100mg will probably be a bit on the low side for you if you already have a lot of experience with MDxx in the past. 150mg for me was a perfect dose, strong positive effects but low enough to avoid most of the negative side-effects, and the trippiness was kept very mild - though I must admit, even at 250mg (well 150mg + 100mg redose after an hour) I found it to be a strong roll and not to feel remotely like tripping other than the fact I was experiencing visuals.

 

[The King of Beans]

I think 100mg will probably be a bit on the low side for you if you already have a lot of experience with MDxx in the past. 150mg for me was a perfect dose, strong positive effects but low enough to avoid most of the negative side-effects, and the trippiness was kept very mild - though I must admit, even at 250mg (well 150mg + 100mg redose after an hour) I found it to be a strong roll and not to feel remotely like tripping other than the fact I was experiencing visuals.

Hmmm....That is exactly how I would describe how I feel on MDA. I wish I knew exactly how much I took on each occasion. It would better help me to know what is best for me. I know the most I felt like rolling was on the very small dose I took ther 2nd time. I should not of redosed that day because I actually felt like a weak roll till the point to where I redosed...then it turned into a trip. So by this knowledge..most likely I am better off with small doses. But then again I really can't say how much I took. I know that I felt effects all 3 times I did the drug. So I must of been taking more than 80 mg's each time. But it didn't seem like that much, considering the powder is light. 2 grams looks like 4 grams compared to other stuff.

PS- Going to have some 4-FA soon...I wonder if it's a good idea to mix some of the 6-apb with the 4-fa? And if so, what would be the better order to take to acheive a roll and not a trip? For instance, should I do the 4-FA first, then dose the 6-apb after the 4-fa kicks in? Or vice versa?

 

[IamMe90]

What would be best is a damn scale.

 

[frontbluntt]

Hmmm....That is exactly how I would describe how I feel on MDA. I wish I knew exactly how much I took on each occasion. It would better help me to know what is best for me. I know the most I felt like rolling was on the very small dose I took ther 2nd time. I should not of redosed that day because I actually felt like a weak roll till the point to where I redosed...then it turned into a trip. So by this knowledge..most likely I am better off with small doses. But then again I really can't say how much I took. I know that I felt effects all 3 times I did the drug. So I must of been taking more than 80 mg's each time. But it didn't seem like that much, considering the powder is light. 2 grams looks like 4 grams compared to other stuff.

PS- Going to have some 4-FA soon...I wonder if it's a good idea to mix some of the 6-apb with the 4-fa? And if so, what would be the better order to take to acheive a roll and not a trip? For instance, should I do the 4-FA first, then dose the 6-apb after the 4-fa kicks in? Or vice versa?

Take the 6-APB, and then the the 4-FA when the 6-APB peaks

 

[coelophysis]

Sounds like a dirty combo imo.

 

[6apbhmm]

I would guess APB with FA will be crazy euphoric but not worth the comedown , not gonna try myself, anyway I really want to wait proper month without serotonergic drugs now.

 

[Jesusgreen]

Hmmm....That is exactly how I would describe how I feel on MDA. I wish I knew exactly how much I took on each occasion. It would better help me to know what is best for me. I know the most I felt like rolling was on the very small dose I took ther 2nd time. I should not of redosed that day because I actually felt like a weak roll till the point to where I redosed...then it turned into a trip. So by this knowledge..most likely I am better off with small doses. But then again I really can't say how much I took. I know that I felt effects all 3 times I did the drug. So I must of been taking more than 80 mg's each time. But it didn't seem like that much, considering the powder is light. 2 grams looks like 4 grams compared to other stuff.

PS- Going to have some 4-FA soon...I wonder if it's a good idea to mix some of the 6-apb with the 4-fa? And if so, what would be the better order to take to acheive a roll and not a trip? For instance, should I do the 4-FA first, then dose the 6-apb after the 4-fa kicks in? Or vice versa?

You should really get yourself a good Scale or failing that use Liquid Measurement. While eyeballing is more forgiving with something with doses that range up above 100mg+ it is still inaccurate, and at the very least that's likely to result in wasted experienced where you do too much or too little, as you've experienced, so it'll save you money in the long run, as well as allowing you to work with chemicals with lower dosages.

As I said 150mg was a good dose for me, with strong positive effects, and the side-effects still being minor and easy to deal with, take your weight into account if you want a similar dose (I weighed 67kg or 147.7lbs at the time of my first 150mg dose), and aim ~15mg lower if you're not accurately measuring your doses to avoiding taking too much. (unfortunately you still risk not taking enough, but that's a better alternative)

Regarding the 6-APB and 4-FA combination there are a few posts discussing it in The 6-APB Combination Subthread

 

[jerseybrah]

i'll have access to 6-apb, bk-mdma, and mdma within the next week

what would be a good ratio to make a mixed roll?

ive heard stories of 6-apb overpowering mdma, so i was wondering if it would be wise to even mix it with these

 

[Xamkou]

Hi guys!

Not done any 6-APB for a while!

I think I'm going to order some from one of my trusted vendors.

Could I get a bit of advice please?

I'm just wondering what colour the fury pellets are and if they are as good as they were this time last year?

Cheers