Dude, you're an idiot and a hypocrite. Everyone reacts differently to every drug; it is ENTIRELY possible for someone to not like MDMA. I've dosed a friend with lab analyzed > 95% pure MDMA powder and they didn't enjoy it. They enjoy other stimulant drugs.
Here's the funny thing, you get on Quasi for not liking MDMA not realizing you're doing the exact same thing everyone else is doing to you with 6apb. "6apb does not make you roll." Where do you get off making statements like that? Since when can you access my experience and tell me how 6apb makes me feel? Sorry that you don't roll from it, but I do, and stronger than MDMA. And I've had a lot of MDMA, good MDMA, and I enjoy it, but I still don't like it as much. So get off our fucking backs, we get it, you don't like 6apb, christ already. Get out of the damn thread if you hate it so much and go post in the MDMA forum, I think most people are sick of your crap.
I'm not really a hypocrate. I'll explain the difference between what I said and what Quasi said. First, almost everyone would agree that 6-apb makes you trip. Tripping and rolling are not the same. Tripping does not make you happy. You need to be happy already in order to enjoy a trip. It's common knowledge that going into a trip with a bad mindset can only make things worse. However, MDMA on the other hand is all about serotonin, which makes you happy. Since when do people not enjoy being happy? 6-apb certainly may make some people feel like their rolling, but they are not infact rolling (not in my definition). It just can feel similiar to some people...ESPECIALLY Those who are already extremely happy in life. A true roll to me is pure MDMA. And this is entirely different than any psychedelic drug in those senses to where it actually MAKES you happy, you don't need to be happy already before you go into the experience. Everyone I know enjoys the feeling of happiness. Quasi just came on here to start controversy most likely by saying he/she did not enjoy MDMA. Also another point- You dont see ANYONE saying that they "Trip" from MDMA. And that is because it's not a psychedelic. Drugs do affect people differently I can accept that. But how MDMA affects the brain is pretty much the same for everyone. Nobody in their right mind can say honestly that they don't enjoy being happy.
I've rolled with 100's of people and not a single one did not enjoy it. Obviously you haven't had real MDMA if you're being serious. Now I HAVE seen people who were already high on life to the point to where MDMA didn't really get them off. But if you read what I said closely I said MDMA would MAKE everyone who took it happy. That means if you're not already happy to the point of being a freak, it will make you happy. There is no arguing with this point. Serotonin is the love chemical. You cannot be "made happy" if you're already that happy. I am saying anyone who is depressed or not as happy as god, will be made happy from it.
6-apb on the other hand does not do this. 6-apb is not a rolling drug. Even at the right dose, I'm sure it still has some psychedelic properties. My definition of rolling is simple- What MDMA and MDA does to you. There are clear differences between 6-apb and MDA. They are not even in the same ballpark. While MDMA and MDA are in the same ballpark. Just because you have a different definiton as I do, doesnt give you any right to call me an idiot. You think you're right about everything, but there is no right and wrong. For example, most of us agree that the color "Blue" is Blue. But if you have some wacked out person who sees the color as Green, then the color is "Green" to him. That doesnt make him wrong. You just don't understand what I am trying to say.
MDMA is guaranteed to make anyone who takes it happy, and of course as I said before, if you're already happy, then how can it MAKE you happy? That's just obvious. It can make you HAPPIER, but I never said that. I said it makes everyone happy. Excuse me for not being technical and explaining it in a bunch of detail. I really didnt think I would get idiots to come on here and argue with me about that statment. You expect me to believe that someone reading this thread, just happened to not enjoy MDMA? No, they said that just for controversy and or to try and prove me wrong. If they took real MDMA, they would enjoy the feeling. To say that someone doesnt enjoy serotonin is like calling god an idiot.
God put that chemical in your brain to help you get through life. Let's see anyone with low serotonin come on here and say they feel good and enjoy life. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. I said I wanst going to argue about this, but you guys are obviously just fucking with me, to get me going. I can't help but state my opinion. I already know drugs effect people differently. Am I know some people would enjoy 6-apb or even LSD MORE than mdma, that is personal preference. But that just means they like to trip more than they like to roll. But you really cant come on here and say honestly that you dont like MDMA. That is just not true. You may not like everything about it, but you still would enjoy the good feeling it gives you. Unless you're allergic to it, and get a bad reaction, there is no possible way someone couldn't enjoy that feeling, unless they make themselves believe they aren't. That's a whole different story. If freaks think they dont like serotonin just because they are happy all of the time, then they are taking it for granted. You do enjoy it, weather or not you know it. Or are you are trying to say MDMA doesnt release serotonin for everyone who takes it? Yeah Im sure, someone reading this thread just happened to be one of those people (Insert Sarcasim here) Like I said I've seen 100's of people take it, and under the right setting, it's impossible to have a bad time on it. I'm not going to waste time trying to make you believe you like MDMA. If you want to think you dont enjoy it, fine. But deep down inside, you know that you like it.
MDMA is not like any other drug. It doesn't get you "high" like weed or crack. It enchances the feel good properties of life itself. So this is not a subjective feeling like other drugs. No one in this world could honestly say they don't enjoy being happy. I have seen people who didnt enjoy MDA because it was way too strong for them. That's believable. But MDMA is so mellow and feels so good (Thats why they call it ecstasy) To say you dont like feeling ecstasy is to say that God doesn't like people. It's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So yeah I cant argue with what you say, but you cant argue with my opinion either. I know exactly what you're trying to do and that is start controversy. Anyone can act cool and say they dont enjoy MDMA, but I'm not a fool, I know they are just saying that to start controversy. Of course its possible they had bad MDMA too. I am talking about clean MDMA, No one in this world could honestly say they don't like MDMA. But you do see many people saying they don't like 6-apb. I was just making a comparison between the 2 drugs and how people feel about them.
This is the last reply you will get about this. You're just getting a laugh out of my responses. I feel like Im wasting my time trying to convince people that they like mdma. Like I said, if you want to lie to yourself and act like you don't enjoy serotonin, then go ahead. But any sane people will take my side here. MDMA is not like any other drug. It pretty much enhances the high people are already on with their life. And to say you dont like MDMA is like saying you don't like life, period. If that was true, What are you doing here? Try being low on serotonin and tell me you LIKE that feeling. Because that is what saying "I dont enjoy MDMA" is saying. You have to enjoy something in life. Why make yourself believe ecstasy is not enjoyable? It's just all in your mind. You keep thinking that, you certainly may hate happiness. The mind is a powerful thing. Why tell yourself that you dont enjoy happiness? It just sounds so stupid what we're arguing about here. I refuse to believe that people out there don't enjoy being happy. And if there really ARE people out there who don't enjoy feeling happy and ecstastic, then I would be afraid to be hanging out with these people. Some people are morbid and some people like to be depressed all the time, I know that. But these are people who don't know what REAL happiness is all about. Once they FEEL the love of god (Which MDMA makes you feel) You will never want to go back.
But yes, you have to have depression sometimes in your life. It is there to make you appreciate the happiness. If you were happy all of the time, it would get dull to you. This could very well explain why some people claim they dont enjoy MDMA. If you are not just fucking with me, and you TRULY dont enjoy the feeling of MDMA, then the only explaintion is that you are happy all of the time, and too much so. You cant appreciate and enjoy happiness because it has become you. You probably take SSRI's or some stupid shit like that. You need to feel depression sometimes, and then you'll see what I mean...that love and happiness is the greatest feeling on this earth. And that is what MDMA is all about.
One last thing- If you can't stand me, or can't accept my opinions, then don't read my posts. Skip right over them. It's not that hard to do.