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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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To shambles, yes me an my friends will certainly be doing a allergy test, is there anywhere i can pick up one of these test kits that isnt the internet, i want to test it before the weekend.
 
Interestingly it appears some of this '6-APB powder' is being offered in varying strengths, diluted in different proportions with magnesium stearate. Does this sound likely?
 
dc710 said:
Interestingly it appears some of this '6-APB powder' is being offered in varying strengths, diluted in different proportions with magnesium stearate. Does this sound likely?
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Magnesium Sterate is used as a binder, sounds like a pre mix for pelleting. I believe it is legit
 
Shambles said:
It doesn't sound promising...

Lou: Afraid I'm only aware of testkits being sold online. Maybe worth trying at headshops if there are any near you?
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What are test kits made out of? Is it formaldahyde and sulphuric acid?

I have shitloads of conc H2SO4 in the garage. Will this give me any indicator?
 
blobbymahn said:
Unless the chinese have faked it, this stuff landing up now looks to be legit, yet impure.

Hopefully there's no nasties in it leaving for another barry kidston.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPPP
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You have to ask serious questions how something was able to be manufactured so quickly and also how rigid the testing has been?

There are unscrupulous labs out there who wouldnt lose a minutes sleep if someone on these shores died.

Shambles is right in saying without testing no-one really knows what it is they're ingesting but there are certain precautions that can limit the danger. I'd urge caution over 6-APB that is sold before August.
 
Mullered said:
Magnesium Sterate is used as a binder, sounds like a pre mix for pelleting. I believe it is legit
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It is used for that purpose but it shouldn't be being used as a cutting agent for powder in "varying strengths, diluted in different proportions" - that does sound pretty shady.

blobbymahn said:
What are test kits made out of? Is it formaldahyde and sulphuric acid?

I have shitloads of conc H2SO4 in the garage. Will this give me any indicator?
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I'm pretty sure sulphuric acid is one of the ingredients and formaldehyde may well be the other but not 100% sure. PepperSocks has posted the instructions for home-made test kits but not sure where they are. Worth a search though if you have the chems and are confident you know how to use them safely.

Ghostface said:
Colour reactions for testing

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=512598

6-APB
Marquis - dark blue/black
Mecke - dark brown, almost black (test color from this one bled down into the 5-IAI result)
Mandellin - brown
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Excellent post - thanks for that linky :)
 
At the risk of Shambles kicking my ass...

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People on this forum, including Mods, had no problems ingesting the first samples they were sent (Tan color) - and from what I can gather from these earlier TRs a great time was had by all - even though later on the "revelation" that this was an "impure" substance appeared which incidentally coincided with a prolonged delay to this new RCs release date.

As a long time user of MDxx/early 90s pills - I will be posting TR tomorrow on these new red caps and beleive me if they are not up to the mark BL'ers will be the first to know. In the meantime can we treat these with the same caution/excitment as we let original samplers enjoy and for now give the situation the benefit of the doubt until a couple of days time. By then no matter what is said on Bluelight or anywhere else - we will have either a lot of happy or a lot of sick people.

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Thanks Shambles !!
 
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MrDoIt said:
At the risk of Shambles kicking my ass...

*snip*

People on this forum, including Mods, had no problems ingesting the first samples they were sent (Tan color) - and from what I can gather from these earlier TRs a great time was had by all - even though later on the "revelation" that this was an "impure" substance appeared which incidentally coincided with a prolonged delay to this new RCs release date.

As a long time user of MDxx/early 90s pills - I will be posting TR tomorrow on these new red caps and beleive me if they are not up to the mark BL'ers will be the first to know. In the meantime can we treat these with the same caution/excitment as we let original samplers enjoy and for now give the situation the benefit of the doubt until a couple of days time. By then no matter what is said on Bluelight or anywhere else - we will have either a lot of happy or a lot of sick people.

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Thanks Shambles !!
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Rather you than me... sincerely I hope it all goes well :)
 
at the risk of possibly dying or making myself ill, i will also be trying out these new red caps hopefully at the weekend. wish me luck.
 
MrDoIt said:
Thanks JP - I also wish you belated congradulations after taking your life in your hands also !! :\
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I'm not trying to come over hollier than thou, christ knows I've done enough daft things in my time but I'd argue the substance I took 2 Saturdays ago came from a trusted source who've proven with these delays they have a degree of morality about them. Can you say the same for the "new" lab? Do you even know who's produced it cos it sure as hell isn't the same place.

All about calculated risks. I personally wouldn't touch this without testing that's all
 
jpcardiff said:
I'm not trying to come over hollier than thou, christ knows I've done enough daft things in my time but I'd argue the substance I took 2 Saturdays ago came from a trusted source who've proven with these delays they have a degree of morality about them. Can you say the same for the "new" lab? Do you even know who's produced it cos it sure as hell isn't the same place.

All about calculated risks. I personally wouldn't touch this without testing that's all
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I hear what your saying. But are you telling me you never bought a pill of a stranger in a club and taken it. Surely this isnt any worse?
 
Thats why I said that again all this "speculation" should stop. Beleive me we will all know soon enough. Let the people post their TRs on these new caps, the same way samplers were allowed to post theirs regarding unknown powder samples. There is going to be enough of them so would ask again that "judgement" is reserved until then. Personally not having been lucky enough to receive a sample of 6-APB I am rather looking forward to it - and do not think these caps should be judged beforehand anymore than various "samples" have been.

To everyone sampling tomorrow - try your best to do an allergy test, if you think that what you have in front of you is too much then reduce what you will take.

For a lot of us its been a long wait.

BE CAREFUL BUT ALSO HAVE FUN !!!!!!!! :):):)
 
A number of recent posts removed - you know why they were removed so lets leave that discussion alone now, please. We will see how the tests go - there's not much more to say other than good luck, have fun and I still urge you all to start low after allergy tests. A number of the original samplers - not all but some and circumstances were different - did it that way whether you believe it or not. It's just common sense when dealing with a new substance you have never taken before - you can be allergic or react badly to anything whether bunk, real, pure or impure.
 
I one 100% agree with you Shambles. Your just doing your job. I think as this is a totally umprecidented (sic) situation, talk like this is unavoidable to a certain extent. No more vendor teritory talk from me though, sorry! :)
 
correct, lets all just sit back and wait for reports to come in

mrdolt, cant wait to read your report as soon as you post, please can you let us no dosage etc so we may follow your lead if successful on saturday lol
 
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