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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Are you saying that the NMR results are fake, or have maybe been manipulated to show a purer level of 6-APB compound than it actually is?


Well I can't be certain of anything, but I would have though that it would be unlikely that two different labs would have 100% identical NMR results.

I don't know much about NMR though, so correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I don't think anyone can tell you that. Test results from vendors or labs can of course be manipulated or made up. You won't know if it's the real thing before you get it tested yourself at an independent lab.

what independent lab would do these tests tho?? and it's bound to costs loads.......

so many people are going to be scammed with this stuff. lots of folks will get sent dodgy goods......
 
How many fuckin' times? :\

Stop with the vendor chat. Everybody's heard these lil whispers and I'm sure we're all interested to see what happens next, but all that is of interest to BL is factual information about the drug itself so less speculation, more samples please. Trip reports, discussion of after/effects, test results of supposed sample as above - that kinda thing - enough with the Chinese Whispers.

PS: These NMR reports - are they also the same as the one I posted earlier in this thread and the ADD one too or different from that at least?
 
As for testing shouldn't it come up purple on marquis test?

And even if the NMR was the same as from somewhere else that doesn't necessarily mean something dodgy is up.
 
I don't know enough (anything really) about NMRs to say, but the reason I was interested is that it's obviously easy to copy a result that's been publicly posted, but more to the point, that was the result for the old, relatively dirty, synth so any new NMR results shouldn't be the same as that one and would likely have been falsified if they were, I'd think. No relevance if the results are different, of course, but thought it worth asking.
 
I don't know enough (anything really) about NMRs to say, but the reason I was interested is that it's obviously easy to copy a result that's been publicly posted, but more to the point, that was the result for the old, relatively dirty, synth so any new NMR results shouldn't be the same as that one and would likely have been falsified if they were, I'd think. No relevance if the results are different, of course, but thought it worth asking.

I'm not entirely sure when i could do it as i'm quite busy and access may be tricky but I'm sure i could do some analysis if someone could provide me with a sample. Not sure about NMR but FTIR most probably... NMR at a stretch (soz, excuse the pun :)). The only thing i can say to stop the laughing "yeah sure i'll send you some!" is that any of these techniques need only around 5mg to run... Which by the sounds of things is the roll equivalent of a couple of paracetamol and a hot bath. *snip*
 
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Noble as your intentions surely are, and useful as the results would be, that would still count as sourcing so not allowed under the BLUA. If a new round of samples are being distributed you can always just apply for one from those sending them out. If those offering the stuff are doing so along similar lines to the other samples provided by others they would be free and given to anybody who asks for one while they have them. If they are asking for payment for samples or are only offering it for sale rather than as samples I guess somebody is gonna have to bite the bullet and cough up for some to test.
 
NMR PDF Files

Well the last set of PDF NMR files were created by pdffactory Pro 3.21 by administrator plotted with the MNR plotter XWinPlot

Created 09/07/2010

So it should be possible to use that to compare the pdf's
 
Sober opinons:

- 100%, this is an AMAZING drug combined with AMT. I cannot fault it.
- Rectal dosing, is an excellent route with I suspect has a higher bioavailablity than the oral route.
- Trippy for some, not at all for others.
 
i'm not gonna ask where to get AMT from but can you buy it legaly in the uk?
 
*snip*
lets just see if this is genuine this time

got email from mine saying it will be despatched by wednesday in 100mg capsules (not pellets) there are reasons for this but i don't wanna say too much cuz of vedor talk. so i will have mine by the weekend =D

i'll write a trip report on here when i can i might leave the odd live update on here on my phone but i will be at a mates house so might end up forgetting or not getting the chance to.

even tho i'm on a comedown at the minute from what i think was nrg2 from sunday night this has cheered me up %)
 
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HIya. I have been in touch with someone who says they are receiving "non-branded" 6-APB capsules tomorrow. i.e. not called Benzo Fury. He seems a genuine chap.

What is everyone's thoughts? I'm tempted as I fear August might be another delay...
 
HIya. I have been in touch with someone who says they are receiving "non-branded" 6-APB capsules tomorrow. i.e. not called Benzo Fury. He seems a genuine chap.

What is everyone's thoughts? I'm tempted as I fear August might be another delay...

is it worth the risk? personally i'm waitin till i can be sure i'm getting wot it says on the tin so to speak
 
HIya. I have been in touch with someone who says they are receiving "non-branded" 6-APB capsules tomorrow. i.e. not called Benzo Fury. He seems a genuine chap.

What is everyone's thoughts? I'm tempted as I fear August might be another delay...

I have also heard this mate, but we shall have to wait and see I guess, your guess is as good as mine! 8(
 
Indeed he will ;)

Come on people - surely you know the drill by now? :\

As for "unofficial 6-APB" - it's all been bunk so far but whether that's changed I have no idea. We'd only be guessing at it cos we don't have it here to say one way or the other. Up to you whether it's worth risking or not.
 
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