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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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There is so much hype and anticipation regarding 6-APB people seem to be forgetting the very possible health risks with this RC. I guess only time will tell and no doubt a few stories will emerge as the trip reports start coming in.

Play it safe folks if you have pre-ordered, I will be monitoring my bodys reaction to 6-APB closely in terms of heart rate and blood pressure. If you are experimenting alone make sure at least someone knows what you are doing and have them checkup/call you regularly.

My partner will be with me throughout and she will be sober, this is so important with new RC's I don't want to hear of anyone getting into difficulties from not taking reasonable precautions.

So to summarise: Try not to let the thought of 'The latest and greatest RC' get in the way of your own health and safety. So little is known just play it safe and read up as much you can when the trip reports start coming in thick and fast.
 
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Jamo said:
There is so much hype and anticipation regarding 6-APB people seem to be forgetting the very possible health risks with this RC. I guess only time will tell and no doubt a few stories will emerge as the trip reports start coming in.

Play it safe folks if you have pre-ordered, I will be monitoring my bodys reaction to 6-APB closely in terms of heart rate and blood pressure. If you are experimenting alone make sure at least someone knows what you are doing and have them checkup/call you regularly.
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I totally agree with caution around this new substance - when there are hundreds of TRs we may have a slightly better picture (but still not much)

When i did 6apb, i did keep an eye on my heart rate (i'd started checking HR only after the few times i did mep/m1) - for me there was some elevation but not much (didn't go over 100; mostly about 90 (my resting HR is about 70-80 (i know))) - this may have been because there was no need to redose and i didn't dance, but i'd sometimes get HR of 120+ from single dose of meph or M1 in the same conditions - sometimes lasting several days or even weeks. There was also none of the chest tightening feelings i got from meph/m1, (not my lungs; related to blood pressure i think - this also stayed for several days after).

This anectdotal story can't really tell you anything in general about 6apb, but for me it roughly tells me that after three goes, the initial effects are less obviously toxic feeling than the cathinones. Of course we can't know what effects are happening 'under the hood' that we can't immediately sense (there was some speculation about hepatoxicity of benzofurans in the earlier thread - some expansion on this would be good mods...)
 
Hi All
I've been a lurker in this site for about a year, finally decided to register.
I live in the UK and am 38 years young and in pretty good health

I find this site to be very informative and educational about the "HIGHS and LOWS" of certain substances for whatever purpose. This thread on 6-APDB has me a little confused. My questions are:

1: Is this stuff genuine or just something made up by ex Mephedrone vendors to keep interest to fill the void of the previously favorited compound until something else apears ?

2: Why does this site not allow anyone to name and shame vendors that are ripping BL members (and others) off with non delivery and crap goods ?

I understand the no vendor discussion issue and reasons for it, but, if there is someone out there taking us "all" for our hard earned money then we should be able to unite and tell each other. should we not ?

Sorry for the rant on my first post, but I think you know I mean well guys.
 
MeDieViL said:
No cros tolerance with mdma is very interesting.... :)
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I don't know about 'no cross-tolerance' but seemingly very little; but (on my part) this may have been placebo effect from a new untested substance exaggerating the effect (or other uncountable factors).

Some neuro-pharm speculation by the science wizards on this substance would be good - the possible difference that dropping the oxygen makes to it's action (in comparison to other substances/neurotransmitters?), and if this seems to correspond to the subjective difference;

also, what other derivations are possible: methylate the amine (6(MAP)B? or whatever); Other phens that could be analogised with the benzofuran?

(come on sciencey bods - make me look like an idiot)
 
In the interest of harm reduction someone ought to point out any substance purporting to be 6-apb should be taken with great caution whilst it's widely acknowledged this isnt yet available bar the odd sample here and there.
 
I just had to delete 32 posts out of the last 2.5 pages. They were mostly social-type posts or back-and-forth arguing about whether or not to post about vendors. We already have an answer for that: NO. Bluelight does not allow vendor discussion of any kind, sorry. This isn't our decision as PD mods so discussing it here won't do anything except piss people off and invite infractions. If you have a problem with this rule, bring it up in Support as you should do with any problems with site policy. There are other sites where you can discuss vendors anyway if you want to, so use those for that and use Bluelight for information. Please.

The reason we do not allow any vendor discussion at all is because Bluelight is seen as a respectable place. If we start allowing talk or where and how to get drugs, versus just discussing their effects and properties, we could be shut down, or lose our reputation as a respectable site where real information can be found and trusted.

Again, no amount of arguing about it in this thread will accomplish anything except infractions. We hate to give infractions in PD and we hardly ever have to... until this 6-APB fiasco we hadn't given a single one in recent memory. But we will if vendor discussion keeps happening.

Please have fun here and discuss non-vendor aspects of 6-APB. :) And that's all.
 
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This was just posted and got deleted. I'd edit that old son.


Vurtual said:
When i did 6apb, i did keep an eye on my heart rate (i'd started checking HR only after the few times i did mep/m1) - for me there was some elevation but not much (didn't go over 100; mostly about 90 (my resting HR is about 70-80 (i know))) - this may have been because there was no need to redose and i didn't dance, but i'd sometimes get HR of 120+ from single dose of meph or M1 in the same conditions - sometimes lasting several days or even weeks. There was also none of the chest tightening feelings i got from meph/m1, (not my lungs; related to blood pressure i think - this also stayed for several days after).

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I'd get 120+ pulse after Mephedrone as well. If you're getting under 100 with 6-APB that's looking quite promising. I'll be sure to keep an eye on it though.
 
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jpcardiff said:
Im sure Ive seen posts confirming it doesnt work
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I tried a little redose about 5 hours in but it wasn't enough to be worth it - I'm sure if i had enough for another full dose it would have worked though. I guess it would start to be diminishing returns pretty soon though (less high for more comedown - still wouldn't have said no though...).
 
Vurtual said:
I tried a little redose about 5 hours in but it wasn't enough to be worth it - I'm sure if i had enough for another full dose it would have worked though. I guess it would start to be diminishing returns pretty soon though (less high for more comedown - still wouldn't have said no though...).
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Cant say I felt any urge to re-dose
 
How would one compare 100mg 6-APD first time usage to, say, 250mg oral mephedrone, first time usage?
 
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I tried the "new" off-white 6-apb on Saturday night. approx 90mg (8.20pm)

Suffice to say it blew my mind but short of repeating a lot of what has already been said by many before me I thought I would add a few personal insights

Firstly, although the comeup was strong there was no vomiting. I took this at a friends house deliberately about an hour before setting off into town/clubbing as I didnt want to risk throwing up in more social settings. I've never threw up on mdma either though

I had eaten in the day but not much. The come up took an hour to peak. During 1st hour I felt a little anxious (as with any new experience) but after that point I felt far more at ease.

The walk into town was brilliant. walking felt kinda floaty. Minor visuals from passing headlights. Once in the club definite music appreciation. The feeling of bliss and empathy kept on til at least half midnight. It peaks in waves but never subsides.

A definite "inner goodness" beyond half midnight that I could still feel til 6am all the while getting less and less.

Managed some sleep but was up to play football on Sunday morning. Something I would never have managed off meph. I felt absolutely fine, aside from the lack of sleep - but I should stress I didnt try to get to bed before 6am I was up by choice with company =D

Overall this is a top drug. It is quite trippy to begin with and im sure experiences will vary depending on settings but for me it definitly enhanced a night out and the lack of crash is just the cherry on the cake

Mullered; I cant reply mate for some reason it wont allow me sorry bud
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so how intense would you say the buzz is compared to mdma? do you get rushes of euphoria like when on mdma or is it more stimulant like speed or meph?

gues what i'm asking is could you go to rave on this stuff and dance like a fucking nutter like mdma ;)

sorry for all the questions just curious m8
 
deano88 said:
so how intense would you say the buzz is compared to mdma? do you get rushes of euphoria like when on mdma or is it more stimulant like speed or meph?

gues what i'm asking is could you go to rave on this stuff and dance like a fucking nutter like mdma ;)

sorry for all the questions just curious m8
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From what I have been told and read, 6-apb is not super stimulating, maybe less so than MDMA. I did speak to an experienced drug user who had recieved around 200mg in a sample, enough for 2 doses. The first he took on it's own and he said it was awesome. Interestingly the 2nd dose he took along with some proper amphetamine and he said it was even better. So If your looking for all night dancing and you want to take the risk then it sounds like the amphetamine+6-apb cocktail is the way to go
 
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How would one compare 100mg 6-APD first time usage to, say, 250mg oral mephedrone, first time usage?
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Hello and welcome.
This stuff is much more similar to MDA /MDMA in it's potency and half life it will last a lot longer than meph with no need to redose.

250mg of meph first time use is quite a lot.

If you need to look at MDA info can be found here. There are some decent trip reports so far on this so make sure you read those too.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mda/mda.shtml
 
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Yeah i agree that the combo of 6-APB and amphetamine would be pure bliss, will try that myself soon.
 
Vurtual said:
I tried a little redose about 5 hours in but it wasn't enough to be worth it - I'm sure if i had enough for another full dose it would have worked though. I guess it would start to be diminishing returns pretty soon though (less high for more comedown - still wouldn't have said no though...).
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Im my experience with MDMA I always found that redosing was more effective the earlier it was done, maybe no longer than an hour after you first come up or a couple of hours after dropping i.e. whilst the effects are still on the up. I always used to find that if I waited till I started coming down the redosing would prolong the residual stimulation and head fuck rather than the buzz. Obviously you should be familiar with your limits with a particular chemical when redosing
 
Mullered said:
From what I have been told and read, 6-apb is not super stimulating, maybe less so than MDMA. I did speak to an experienced drug user who had recieved around 200mg in a sample, enough for 2 doses. The first he took on it's own and he said it was awesome. Interestingly the 2nd dose he took along with some proper amphetamine and he said it was even better. So If your looking for all night dancing and you want to take the risk then it sounds like the amphetamine+6-apb cocktail is the way to go
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this stuff sounds like it would be even better with MDMA Speed makes me dance but it isn't as empathogenic as mdma can be and these two together sound like they would get on like best friends.
Although if i had mdma i'd probably just take that instead, maybe i would try taking them both at the same time but the come up would probably knock me for six.
 
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