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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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re: is this drug energetic enough for a rave

not having tried it, but if its like MDMA, i remember even back in the very early 1990s when "pills were pills and baggy jeans were really baggy" if you took a stim like amphetamine with MDMA it totally knocked out most of the magic of the MDMA.. im not a chemistry expert but i imagine a similar sounding drug would have the same weakness next to a potant stimulant.
 
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Does anyone who's tried it get the MDA style visuals like people wearing glasses and shit, completely hilarious, utterly random hallucinations?
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for me visuals like that were more from high dose MDMA, MDA used to give me intense CEVs like LSD.

Being in a night club and looking around with my eyes open freaked me so much so that to the point where i had to close them and then the mad shit i'd see shapes and colours morphing, patterns and swirls squiglly lines and rotating planets, flowers and vortexes were more akin to MDA.

really want to try this stuff now.
 
blobbymahn said:
Does anyone who's tried it get the MDA style visuals like people wearing glasses and shit, completely hilarious, utterly random hallucinations?
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Haha, this is exactly what I used to get get around 1999 somtimes when clubbing. Always presumed it was MDA but could have been too much MDMA. Used to see 'beards' and 'hats' as well. Close up I would see pink and green particals / spots swirling on peoples skin. Would be interesting to hear if this is the kind of visuals experienced with 6_APB.

@Osky_P and amp2k:

Only just got to go through your posts from the weekend but it's clear we naivly got scammed by the same CUNT lol

Decieving Fucker!!
 
looking forward to trying 6apb sounds very promising :) comparing to the selection of "Pills" 1 devoured during 99-03 with 99.9998% undisclosed ingredients occasionally hitting the jackpot:) i remember the dreaded snowballs, twas about 1999/2000? very trippy8o i heard of them containing acid?? anyways screwed us over for a full on 24-48hrs the come down we were like zombies. not good. %)

How about this, anyone who has tried 6apb and also eaten lots of different "Pills" able to give a comparison to a particular pill?

[Nope, not allowed :)]
 
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Are there no reagent testers in the UK?

It would have been great if those lucky enough to have been provided with the real 6-APB to have done marquis, mandelin and simons reagent tests and let everyone know how it reacted.

Then anyone with questionable samples could have got off their arses and got testing kits and stopped all this guess work, some of which might be very dangerous. Surely the manner in which MDAI, meph and naphryone react with all these reagents must be well known by you lot over there by now.

In Australia we are not even able to source any of these chemicals unless one runs the risk of serious criminal charges. However, if I could, the first thing I would be doing is testing them all with the common reagents and then any time I ever got another sample of anything, I would be running those tests to ensure the sample reacted the same. Not just snorting or tasting a bit to see if it tastes like I remembered it. Chemistry doesn't lie and if the real 6-APB goes purple (like I suspect it would) and you then get something that goes yellow, IT IS NOT 6-APB! No it will not prove what you have is what you want beyond all doubt, but it is a much better start than what has been suggested elsewhere on this thread.

This chemical is clearly the most promising RC for an MDXX type high thus far and patience is obviously a virtue. Be grateful you will be able to get it at all. And I would gladly pay 10 pounds per pellet. I think people in my country would pay 30 given the likes of what people as credible as Shambles have said and the reported longetivity!

The structure is so similar to MDA that I wonder if the mode of action is effectively the same, and the absence of the oxygen makes little difference.
 
Biscuit, do you have a link to the Australian analog act? The reason I ask is that with the american analog act the compound must have substantially similar pharmacology to a scheduled compound as well as structural similarity. Since 6-apb appears to be unknown as a psychoactive in any scientific publication, a prosecution I would think would be very difficult in the US at least until such research is done and I don't believe any jurisdiction in the US is willing to devote the resources necessary to determine the human pharmacology for a simple possession charge. I believe this could possibly be the reason why 6-apb was selected as opposed to 6-apdb since 6-apdb is a known psychoactive and would fall under the US analog act. There's quite possibly cultivated plants which may produce compounds which would fall under the US analog act but since these compounds are unknown to scientific literature it would be impossible to prosecute, and a couple reports on online forums I doubt would establish pharmacology beyond a reasonable doubt. There's reports on erowid of people getting high off all sorts of things that I wouldn't consider psychoactive, and even if it was it still does not determine whether the effect is "substantially similar to or greater than" MDA.

Also, in the US prosecution for the importation of drug cannabis seed seems to require proof that the person being charged had knowingly requested the seeds. For example, the DEA intercepted letters placing orders with one well known Canadian seed vendor and sent letters back requesting the vendor was busted and that the customer send western union funds to an undercover DEA agent to get their original order so they could prove the person requested the seeds. Without this evidence, prosecution would be much more difficult.

I don't know how this applies to people in Australia however. Also, I'm not trying to make the claim that purchasing this compound in the US is safe, I'm just citing a few things for the record. Unfortunately, selling the compound in the form of pressed pills will work to the advantage of prosecutors since a pill is obviously intended for consumption.
 
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I'm going back on fluoxetine, which is a bummer because I really wanted to try this stuff.

Onbviously there's the worry thing about seretonin syndrome, but I have heard of people using MDMA with SSRIs. Does anybody know the facts, who can tell me the full risks of such practice?
 
Splitz said:
I'm going back on fluoxetine, which is a bummer because I really wanted to try this stuff.

Onbviously there's the worry thing about seretonin syndrome, but I have heard of people using MDMA with SSRIs. Does anybody know the facts, who can tell me the full risks of such practice?
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SSRIs + serotonergics doesn't cause Serotonin Syndrome - they just kill the Goodies stone dead so you probably wouldn't even know you'd taken anything other than your Prozac as normal - greatly reduced effects at best really. One of many reasons I seriously dislike SSRIs - not dangerous (aside from horrific withdrawals and possible murderous psychosis) but a true buzzkill if ever there was one :\
 
On the subject of smacking out, to those that have had a sample is 6-APB very smacky or is more of a wide awake clean cut sort of MDMAesque buzz? What I can take from most of the reports that have came in it's the latter but I do love a good smack attack, laying with your eyes closed, legs swinging back & forth with a gurn on you that would scare small children lol =D
 
*cough* Pills circa 19xx Get all your pill nostalgia discussion done here *cough*

In case you'd all forgotten what this thread is for, the clue is in the title ;)

RC: Of the two times I've tried it one was full of energy and perk and the other much more chilled and mellow. Set, setting, not eating too much before dropping and so on probably plays the biggest part in which way it goes.
 
6-APB was a monged out version of MDMA for me, i was laying on the cough not really feeling like talking just sitting there in bliss.
 
MeDieViL said:
6-APB was a monged out version of MDMA for me, i was laying on the cough not really feeling like talking just sitting there in bliss.
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This is what I generally found, but maybe a slightly lower dose would work better if going out to a club/rave??
 
Skyline_GTR said:
This is what I generally found, but maybe a slightly lower dose would work better if going out to a club/rave??
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No i was a bit underwhelmed actually because i took 2 doses of 50mg, wont work to take lower doses, its just to heavy on serotonine compared to dopamine for a real energetic drug (not that thats a bad thing), i'm curious about some close analogues tough.
 
Splitz said:
I'm going back on fluoxetine, which is a bummer because I really wanted to try this stuff.

Onbviously there's the worry thing about seretonin syndrome, but I have heard of people using MDMA with SSRIs. Does anybody know the facts, who can tell me the full risks of such practice?
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i used to take MDMA with SSRI's regularly for many years with no prob, although its not advised medically.

this is a new drug tho so it might not be the same rule

i got serotonine toxicity syndrome from a different SSRI when i was taking mm-cat last year, i litterally started the SSRIs and was 2 days in befor i was in too much agony to move, luckily i was treated quickly enough. id advise caution.

medically (from someone dual qualified in psychiatry and psychology) id advise not taking ANY drugs that mess with your serotonin, as they will not only increase your illness but also wipe out the effects of the medication (as well as the risk of toxicity and with a RC ..unknown effects)


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love it!!!
anna x
 
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Ive just posted a trip report but starting to wonder if there was somethin up with it or our scales has gone tits up.....

I hope I'm wrong but if this is it .... off to Amsterdam lol


Will wait and see......
 
tonyscott said:
Ive just posted a trip report but starting to wonder if there was somethin up with it or our scales has gone tits up.....

I hope I'm wrong but if this is it .... off to Amsterdam lol


Will wait and see......
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What did you try, just had a little look over at the the trip report forum and I noticed you posted it in a 6-APDB thread, not 6-APB.

So which one was it you think you sampled, 6-APDB or 6-APB?
 
If it's expected to be what's being discussed in this thread then it's 6-APB, not 6-APDB... it was mistakenly thought to be 6-APDB back when the first few people received samples, but was later determined to be 6-APB.
 
no label at all but I had ordered mdat and that came in the package so i am sure of where it came from. Mdat bags were labeled.
 
whooppiii just came home to find in my letter box a sample from the new batch of powder. Came from same place that sent me the first stuff. Its an off white colour this time and i've 100mg. Was going to have another go tomorrow with the tan coloured batch(which is very nice ) that i still have a sample of but going to try this stuff out now instead .. will let you know how it went ...
p.s all three samples were not labelled but came with same letter ...

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