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Visual effects from all psychedelics seem to vary widely from person to person. A shame this won't be around for T in the Park. At least I've got AMT to try xD.
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Xorkoth
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^^ Very true. Some people get a lot of visuals and some don't. Visuals aren't the main draw of psychedelics anyway... it's how they make you think and feel.
so mugabe why wouldn't you recomend drinking with it? on weekends i like to have a drink and have a few spliffs would this combo with 6-APB be a good or bad thing? you mention nausea but i do have a very strong stomache and have never thrown up on any drugs, came close when a bomb of speed split in my throat but as nasty as that was my stomach still took it lol
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No patents apart from the following:
European Patent EP1149085 2001
Japanese Patent JP2002535396 2002
United States Patent US7045545 2006
there are also Canadian Australian and World patents.
the US and European patents appear current and to have been maintained by Lilly.
6-APDB on the other hand is not patented nor patentable anywhere. 6-APDB is rather vomit inducing.
Maybe chindian labs would be wary of breaching the patent, given recent events in chindia regarding intellectual property violations
Mugz
Bluelighter
I would think that drinking on it would be fine, but I would not recommend getting really drunk and then taking the 6-APB after. When I did it the first time, I had about 9 pints of beer and then took the 6-APB. It was still good, but a lot of the effects were dulled down. Also when the hangover started to come the 6-APB made the hangover seem a lot worse.
ah right thats not what i would of done i will just neck one then start drinking but wont have a spliff until i properly come up. cant wait for this stuff to arrive i don't wanna wait 2 weeks
Mullered
Bluelighter
Would you say the comedown is similar to MDMA?
Mugz
Bluelighter
^No, it is much nicer than a MDMA comedown, it is practically non existent to be honest, just a little bit tired which is to be expected.
Mullered
Bluelighter
Sounds very prommising. How do you find the buzz compares to MDMA?
Harambulus
Greenlighter
With regards to comedowns it really makes me wonder if comedowns aren't mostly due to the impurities of 'street' drugs cos MDMA would also have a shitty comedown, even the stuff I bought a load of once and was uncut (all crystals).
Meph for instance had very little comedown; I'm thinking this may be due to purported '999.99999999999999' purities...
To do a controlled experiment we'd have to get some of the purest MDMA crystal and compare it to the other substances.
Chemists feel free to volunteer your samples.
Meph for instance had very little comedown; I'm thinking this may be due to purported '999.99999999999999' purities...
To do a controlled experiment we'd have to get some of the purest MDMA crystal and compare it to the other substances.
Chemists feel free to volunteer your samples.
Vurtual
Bluelighter
^ I suppose you can snort anything (like ants or your dad's ashes), but the vendors/suppliers advise against it (after saying it's for your plants, they say 'don't inhale').
I tried anyway and only got a cm along the line before giving up and dabbing (twas a bit painful) - i'd say dab it (the taste isn't that bad). When the pellets are around i'd say it'd be even less a good idea.
But plenty will ignore that advice (as did i).
I tried anyway and only got a cm along the line before giving up and dabbing (twas a bit painful) - i'd say dab it (the taste isn't that bad). When the pellets are around i'd say it'd be even less a good idea.
But plenty will ignore that advice (as did i).
Ben So Furry
Bluelighter
I've been a lurker of this site for years, mainly using it for information, I (along with many others) am completely excited looking forward to this chemical, however I feel I had to sign up and post because of things I have found out that seem extremely sinister, or maybe just wild speculation.
Firstly people saying it won't cause the same hysteria that Mephedrone and that the price will stop people 'over doing it' is complete nonsense. The price let us not forget is still exactly the same as one gram of Mephedrone and with it being report-ably 10 times stronger by weight and 8 times longer lasting at first it appears much better value than Mephedrone, also the meph generation miss sticking their fingers up at coppers while fucked waving a small bag of white powder in their faces, this is why NRG1/2/3 etc. sell. People miss mail order legal drugs that actually do something and are searching for an alternative to at least try. A lot of people are watching this thread hoping this is the 'one'. That goes for the government and media. I have already seen a news article talking about Benzo Fury being the next Mephedrone and this connection is exactly what will get it banned faster than the postie can push it through your post box.
*removed link to a UK local newspaper article about a (seroiusly shitty) vendor - but they are still a vendor... even if other than "woof-woof" (once an EADD gag, now being quoted as fact... deja vu or just fuckin' morons?) they mainly sell cutting agents to "entrepreneurs". But still technically a vendor so small snip, big ramble*
The above almost looks like it was set-up to advertise the compound but what is worrying in that article is this:
Minister for crime prevention, James Brokenshire, said: “We are going to change our drug laws so we can respond quickly to emerging substances by introducing a temporary ban while we seek full scientific advice.”
Also if people think the media aren't looking for the next Meph media created 'scare' to sell papers to fearful parents, then they are wrong. This thread has users practically salivating to consume this substance, a forum which is indexed by Google and openly viewable by everyone. A thread which now contains the words Mephedrone and is one of the top links when a 6-APB search is run in Google.
Secondly I do like the idea of pellets with a recognised hard to copy logo on it, as it means you know what your getting and where it has come from and as a sign of a quality compound. It stops people selling bags of baking powder and creatine passing it off a pure product, if you get a pellet without the logo, you haven't got the product from the originators of this. Of course it includes some clever marketing techniques aswell. Most people when happy with a brand will not switch and that's exactly what the name Benzo Fury is: a brandname for 6-APB in pellet form from a certain supplier. Just as Nurofen is just a brand name for Ibuprofen costing many times more than the cheap generic super market version. I do like the fact it should be hard to counterfeit and rip people off, but saying this is for harm reduction of to stop people binging like they did on Mephedrone is ridiculous, vendors do not care if you injure yourself taking this or anything, all they want is your money, and the way this is playing out, this is looking like a goldmine.
I too am extremely looking forward to getting hold of some of this to try, and after the first round of samples went round and the trip reports started coming in I would of paid anything to any old vendor who claimed to have it, such was the hysteria it created. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That has changed however and every time I try to dig around to find out what's going on with the delays to this substance I keep getting to a dead end and the same conclusion that this is all going to end badly for someone or all of us. I can't go into detail because it goes against the rules of vendor talk but like I said every line of enquiry fuels my paranoia.
All I will say is don't stock up too much right away, buy 3 tops, only spend what you can afford to lose, see what the first batch is like before going mad, (just advice of course, do what you like, I don't want to sound preachy but I don't want to be right either) I can't say too much because of rules, and its all theory and speculation fuelled by delay frustration, paranoia that I will never get to try this and things that have happened in the past with the people involved with this stuff, but, be wary. This could be the biggest hit and run hustle known, and I know it sounds silly but I prey I'm wrong.
Firstly people saying it won't cause the same hysteria that Mephedrone and that the price will stop people 'over doing it' is complete nonsense. The price let us not forget is still exactly the same as one gram of Mephedrone and with it being report-ably 10 times stronger by weight and 8 times longer lasting at first it appears much better value than Mephedrone, also the meph generation miss sticking their fingers up at coppers while fucked waving a small bag of white powder in their faces, this is why NRG1/2/3 etc. sell. People miss mail order legal drugs that actually do something and are searching for an alternative to at least try. A lot of people are watching this thread hoping this is the 'one'. That goes for the government and media. I have already seen a news article talking about Benzo Fury being the next Mephedrone and this connection is exactly what will get it banned faster than the postie can push it through your post box.
*removed link to a UK local newspaper article about a (seroiusly shitty) vendor - but they are still a vendor... even if other than "woof-woof" (once an EADD gag, now being quoted as fact... deja vu or just fuckin' morons?) they mainly sell cutting agents to "entrepreneurs". But still technically a vendor so small snip, big ramble*
The above almost looks like it was set-up to advertise the compound but what is worrying in that article is this:
Minister for crime prevention, James Brokenshire, said: “We are going to change our drug laws so we can respond quickly to emerging substances by introducing a temporary ban while we seek full scientific advice.”
Also if people think the media aren't looking for the next Meph media created 'scare' to sell papers to fearful parents, then they are wrong. This thread has users practically salivating to consume this substance, a forum which is indexed by Google and openly viewable by everyone. A thread which now contains the words Mephedrone and is one of the top links when a 6-APB search is run in Google.
Secondly I do like the idea of pellets with a recognised hard to copy logo on it, as it means you know what your getting and where it has come from and as a sign of a quality compound. It stops people selling bags of baking powder and creatine passing it off a pure product, if you get a pellet without the logo, you haven't got the product from the originators of this. Of course it includes some clever marketing techniques aswell. Most people when happy with a brand will not switch and that's exactly what the name Benzo Fury is: a brandname for 6-APB in pellet form from a certain supplier. Just as Nurofen is just a brand name for Ibuprofen costing many times more than the cheap generic super market version. I do like the fact it should be hard to counterfeit and rip people off, but saying this is for harm reduction of to stop people binging like they did on Mephedrone is ridiculous, vendors do not care if you injure yourself taking this or anything, all they want is your money, and the way this is playing out, this is looking like a goldmine.
I too am extremely looking forward to getting hold of some of this to try, and after the first round of samples went round and the trip reports started coming in I would of paid anything to any old vendor who claimed to have it, such was the hysteria it created. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That has changed however and every time I try to dig around to find out what's going on with the delays to this substance I keep getting to a dead end and the same conclusion that this is all going to end badly for someone or all of us. I can't go into detail because it goes against the rules of vendor talk but like I said every line of enquiry fuels my paranoia.
All I will say is don't stock up too much right away, buy 3 tops, only spend what you can afford to lose, see what the first batch is like before going mad, (just advice of course, do what you like, I don't want to sound preachy but I don't want to be right either) I can't say too much because of rules, and its all theory and speculation fuelled by delay frustration, paranoia that I will never get to try this and things that have happened in the past with the people involved with this stuff, but, be wary. This could be the biggest hit and run hustle known, and I know it sounds silly but I prey I'm wrong.
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New trip report:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=8535297#post8535297
I wrote it the day after, so exact times of things are a little hazy.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=8535297#post8535297
I wrote it the day after, so exact times of things are a little hazy.
JohnnyVodka
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Anyone had sleep paralysis from this? (That's what put me off 'pills'.)
alcohol dehydrates you, as does any stimulant...they arnt known for going together, especially mdma which 6-apb is related to theoretically. plus like someone else said they kinda knock each other out. its not necessarily life threatening just a common precaution, a sensible amount of either is going to be ok, but in excess......not advised
also alcohol can make your body metabolize some drugs differently, cocaine is a prime example of this, its far more effective mixed with alcohol, but also far more toxic. again drug interactions are not known with a new drug like this one.
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everytime ive had coke i have to drink with it like you said it way more effective. i think i'll wait to see if i feel like drinking once i come up on this stuff anyway
Delsyd
Bluelight Crew
the reason coke feels more effective when you drink alcohol with it is because it produces a new drug in vivo called cocaethylene.
Cocaethylene is said to last longer and be alot more euphoric than cocaine.
i dont think 6-APB would have a similar effect.
Cocaethylene is said to last longer and be alot more euphoric than cocaine.
i dont think 6-APB would have a similar effect.
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