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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)
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After I started feeling really good I had mild nausea, but a strange euphoric nausea I haven't had before, I was sick a tiny bit, but It was the best puke I've ever had, immediately affirming that I was in for a good time xD.
Just depends whether you let being sick ruin your night or not, and with this I doubt it will as the feeling wears off quickly (if you even get it at all).
Just depends whether you let being sick ruin your night or not, and with this I doubt it will as the feeling wears off quickly (if you even get it at all).
I used to always get sick when the pill was good (mdma) so was always happy when it happened as I knew I was gona have a good one. Also got the shits (usually at the same time) don't know if this was just excitement of a good come up or not.
That's why I wondered bout this if it would be similar. Can't wait and will post results
That's why I wondered bout this if it would be similar. Can't wait and will post results
Shambles
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Come-up poo (and probably any nausea) are caused by the release of dopamine, I believe. It's generally a goooood sign %)
What do you think about this a a first time real drug? I've smoked weed most days for about a year but I doubt that really counts 
Tried to buy some mandy but what I got was either cut to shit or something else (didn't get much of an effect) would love to actually know what I'm getting is genuine, sadly I missed out on mephedrone 
Also I've ordered some nitrous because I've heard its pretty fun, anyone mixed the two?
Tried to buy some mandy but what I got was either cut to shit or something else (didn't get much of an effect)
would love to actually know what I'm getting is genuine, sadly I missed out on mephedrone Also I've ordered some nitrous because I've heard its pretty fun, anyone mixed the two?
Vurtual
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I'd say be cautious (as with first time mdma) - someone who's done e and md lots of times is well used to the feelings produced by this type of stuff, but beginners should probably start with at largest a half dose (50mg) as they may find it overwhelming (and as someone said, you can take more if it's too weak, but you can't un-take it if it's too strong).
A macho urge to do more than you think you should of a new substance (especially for the benefit of your peers) is a bad idea with any substance, but especially (slightly) psychedelic ones: treat the substance and your psyche with respect.
^Blade - some have said 50 did nothing, others (like me) felt a substantial effect - It's up to you of course: If you've only got 100 it may be a shame to split it, but if you've got more it's better to get used to it with a half dose first.
These are just my opinions of course - i'm sure i've made myself a hypocrite a few dozen times by now (but i'm older now...)
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it's exactly the same for me.
I was smiling while puking and felt great!
(It's the same for me on the coming up from good MDMA)
My mate didn't get any nausea or any vomit.
I had 110mg (female - 47 kg); he had 90 mg (male - 70 kg).
I have a question for you who sampled 6-APB.
Did you get talkative and chatty?
I was surprised because I always end in this messy chat when I do MDMA or mephedrone or other stimulants.
With 6-APB I didn't feel like talking at all, I was very euphoric, I felt the empathy too (I liked to listen to my mate who actually was talking so much), but for me it was very introspective, a great body high, with amazing rushes, and I wanted to listen to music and dance not feeling in the mood of talking at all.
Did any of you felt the same?
Did you get talkative and chatty?
I was surprised because I always end in this messy chat when I do MDMA or mephedrone or other stimulants.
With 6-APB I didn't feel like talking at all, I was very euphoric, I felt the empathy too (I liked to listen to my mate who actually was talking so much), but for me it was very introspective, a great body high, with amazing rushes, and I wanted to listen to music and dance not feeling in the mood of talking at all.
Did any of you felt the same?
Had the same thing, in fact i was laying on my sofa half of the time, didnt really feel like talking or dancing. If i ever take it in a club i'm gonna add in amp, imo this one should be more stimulating, nonetheless one of the best things ive ever taken but it doesnt match MDMA.
MrDoIt
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Im getting distracted and looking around at things just waiting for the release date !!
It is now getting really stupid with all the secrecy surround when this RC will be available. Hope im not alone with my feelings regarding this issue.
It is now getting really stupid with all the secrecy surround when this RC will be available. Hope im not alone with my feelings regarding this issue.
Shambles
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I found it pretty stimulating and felt very sociable the first time I tried it but much less so the second time. Differences that may have caused or contributed to the change in effects would be that the first time I dropped the dose on an almost empty stomach, I had been up on naphyrone (a strong stimulant) for 24 hours before dosing (although had been several hours since my last dose of naphyrone) and also that the first time there were several people posting here who were also on it. I also drank a fair bit of alcohol first time and it's also possible that some tolerance was involved with a week between doses. None of those things (except the possible tolerance) were true on the second occasion.
Food seemed to make the come-up phase a lot longer and more drawn out with a less definite and weaker peak so probably best not to drop too soon after eating. The change in atmosphere also probably made a big difference - even just chatting online with other people in similar mindset felt like it brought out the sociable, empathetic side far more than being the only waster in the room. The naphyrone probably also played a part as Skyline also mentioned that a small amount taken after the 6-APB peak had faded seemed to intensify the effects somewhat. As it is a triple reuptake inhibitor that seems kinda odd - SSRIs kill an MDMA buzz so it would make sense (to my uneducated mind) that a drug with somewhat similar action would do something along those lines too. I know nowt about the chemistry of it but wonder if those that do would have any ideas about the possible interactions between the two?
In short, for best results (most energy, sociability and empathy) probably best to take it on a fairly empty stomach and with others in similar mindset. Jury's still out on whether adding a stimulant would be a boon or not but may well just come down to personal taste. It feels like it has huge potential as a party drug to me but without having used it in such a situation myself I couldn't say. Reports from those that have seem to be pretty varied so far - some found it ideal, others less so.I would definitely advise trying it without adding other drugs initially to gauge your own reactions and also cos we don't know which - if any - combos would actually be safe.
Food seemed to make the come-up phase a lot longer and more drawn out with a less definite and weaker peak so probably best not to drop too soon after eating. The change in atmosphere also probably made a big difference - even just chatting online with other people in similar mindset felt like it brought out the sociable, empathetic side far more than being the only waster in the room. The naphyrone probably also played a part as Skyline also mentioned that a small amount taken after the 6-APB peak had faded seemed to intensify the effects somewhat. As it is a triple reuptake inhibitor that seems kinda odd - SSRIs kill an MDMA buzz so it would make sense (to my uneducated mind) that a drug with somewhat similar action would do something along those lines too. I know nowt about the chemistry of it but wonder if those that do would have any ideas about the possible interactions between the two?
In short, for best results (most energy, sociability and empathy) probably best to take it on a fairly empty stomach and with others in similar mindset. Jury's still out on whether adding a stimulant would be a boon or not but may well just come down to personal taste. It feels like it has huge potential as a party drug to me but without having used it in such a situation myself I couldn't say. Reports from those that have seem to be pretty varied so far - some found it ideal, others less so.I would definitely advise trying it without adding other drugs initially to gauge your own reactions and also cos we don't know which - if any - combos would actually be safe.
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Shambles: Do you reckon it's addictive?
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Shambles
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Doesn't feel addictive to me and if a drug can be fiended I will inevitably fiend it. I found the second time when I it didn't hit as hard as I would have liked somewhat frustrating and ended up playing at redosing with alternate ROA a few hours in but wouldn't have been hugely upset if that wasn't possible. The smallish smoked and injected top-ups seemed to boost the effects noticeably (albeit relatively briefly) but taking a second oral dose (or snorting it at all) doesn't seem to have worked out for those who tried it. I'd say probably broadly similar to MDMA - not additive but excess on occasion would be quite possible. Doubt many (if any) would feel the need to try to keep dosing into the second day or beyond though.
Shambles
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Prices and stuff has all been discussed at length and in far too much detail already in this thread and the last one and I don't think there's any need to go through it all again. Basically there are a number of reasons the price will initially be high (and will undoubtedly drop soon enough) but ultimately it will cost what it will cost and you can either pay what it costs or not buy it - simple but true, really ![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Medieval: I am not aware of any reports of 6-APDB use - haven't seen or heard of any myself. F&B reported on 5-APB in TR a while back but that's the (sort of) closest thing I can recall having been tasted so far.
Medieval: I am not aware of any reports of 6-APDB use - haven't seen or heard of any myself. F&B reported on 5-APB in TR a while back but that's the (sort of) closest thing I can recall having been tasted so far.
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The first mention I saw was either gzero or skyline, and I think there were misinterpreting what was written originally about 6-apb. I could be wrong though. I haven't seen any mentions of subjective bioassay with 6-apdb, only 5-apdb and none that I've seen mention vomitting or iirc even nausea. At best the claims of 6-apdb being emetic are based on 5-ht2c agonism a property which is possessed by 6-apb. I have yet to see any mention of 6-apdb's action on 5-ht2c, and if someone has the information I'd like to see it as well, but I don't think the research has been published if it has been done at all. I could be wrong though.
Shambles
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Personally I'd put it very close to MDMA indeed. In some ways I might even go so far as to say it was better but YMMV - "good" is totally subjective.
Shambles
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Repost from EADD - thought it would be good to try to get as many TRs as possible together here in PD too 
sorry mods feel free to move this because i dont know where to put it.
first off i should say that the hype people r giving this drug is completely true.
on friday i received a 200mg sample of this from a vendor, as i got it i made it into 2 100mg gel caps, one for me one for my mate. light brown powder
originally i intedned on waiting till at least 8pm to take it, i ended up biking to my mates to get stoned until my mum went out for the weekend. By 5 o clock i couldnt resist the urges any more so i ended up taking it, dabbed the left over which was left in the bag which made me slightly numb like coke.
after about 25 minuted i started to feel the first effects, just like an MDMA comeup but with out the queesiness (however its spelt) started getting extremely chatty and walking up and down rubbing my hands together. at about the 45 minute mark the peak took me by storm and i had to run to the toilet and i was sick, but felt great, the peak is EXACTLY like oldschool pills. Huge rushing, eye wobbles, lots of teeth grinding and pupils like saucers, massive urge to talk complete shit, my mates brother brought his mate home from work who had just been sacked and i think i was scaring him. after about 20 minutes of peaking i got a call from my mum saying she had left so we decided to bike home. after leaving his street you have to bike over a massive hill and go down the other side, by this time i was in a complete head fuck tripping exactly like on MDA. i went down the other side of the hill really fast, forgetting i had no brakes and went flying into a concrete post at the bottom infront of a load of people finishing work, luckily didnt hurt myself at all.
Then i ended up taking my mate the wrong way so we had to bike over a few hard muddy fields which was hard in that state. got back to mine and it was amazing, music sounded great! alot of mad things happend, i actually aquired the dog position a few times which my mates take the piss out of me for on MDMA, where i just seem to sit talking shite on my hands and knees, couldnt stop running my hands through my hair all night so had super messy hair. for those who know what a shotty is, all night i had to get my sober mate to light them for me because i couldnt make out the end of the downpipe like on oldskool pills, kept seeing 2 downpipes and 2 flames haha
kept up the great peak till about 12 or 1 oclock, then it was just a great urge to chat and a really spacey feeling, not bad at all, no stab in the heart feeling like when you stop peaking on mdma we just stayed up till half 3 smoking weed and drinking whiskey, absolutely class night! the only downside is that i got abit of a headache for half hour or so at about 4 but that soon went. the next day i didnt have any comedown other than tiredness.
overall i would say this is a great drug and i will be taking it again, not quite as good as when i first doing MDMA/MDA pills but i put that down to having lost the magic abit, definatly felt as good as i remmeber MDMA pills feeling before the drought. i think this is going to really take off
sorry if this is abit shit, never done something like it before
ANDY
fogot to add i got about 4 hours sleep, in 2 sections through the night
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Here's my 2p worth of input on this new chemical....
After reading through this here thread, all 30+ pages of it, there seems too be quite a few prominent figures from BL that I would personally say are held in high regard here, have been lucky enough to receive a genuine sample of 6-APB or BENZO FURY!!!!! as it's sadly going too be labelled as for the kiddies
From this i've managed too cobble together the following facts....
- Oral consumption is the best ROA
- 100mg is the dose to start off on, anything less seems to me like a waste of chemical
- Anything but a light meal a few hours before hand is going too diminish the potency and increase the come up time partially
- The initial "pellets" ARE going to be £10...no useful discount unless you buy 250+
- "Personally I'd put it very close to MDMA indeed. In some ways I might even go so far as to say it was better but YMMV - "good" is totally subjective."
Everyone seems to forget, this includes people on here and IRL, that this new chemical is LEGAL, can be ordered on the net and is supposedly as cleanly synthesised as possible, well in regards too the few who have had the 2nd batch that is a different colour and just as potent...
What am I getting at?
Is this the new "E" for our current generation????
I'm nearly 30. I missed out on quite possibly all the best times for when pills where pills and raves where raves....Only started on drugs about 3 years ago, started off on a bit of smoke and now i'm pretty deep into all forms of drug use for recreational purposes. Stimulants and Psychedelics are fascinating too me, but it seems I missed the boat in regards too being able too wander into a club at midnight, be sold a pill, by 1am coming up hard and raving for the next 6+ hours and leaving a happy, loved up mess of a person. This just doesn't happen any more and I personally believe it has ruined club culture for quite a few people, myself included!
Mephedrone came quite close too offering quite a decent night out initially, but it grew very tiresome very quickly for me. Nearly everyone else around me continued too use it far too frequently and it started too dull them a little round the edges, doses where getting bigger and bigger and far more frequent to get the same "dunt", why was this all possible? Because it was legal...because it was sold in headshops very openly and obviously the net as well, because the majority of people care very little about research and harm reduction, this legal drug was perfectly acceptable to cain constantly, it must be fine as it's legal....how wrong they where!
I sincerely hope that drugs like 6-APB are popular enough to make it into the mainstream club and drug culture and revive a shoddy nightclub experience for millions up and down the country weekend after weekend. If it does become as popular as MMCAT, then I hope that it is treated with the respect all chemicals of this nature should receive, with care and caution!
If it stays at £10 a "pellet" for the next 3+ months until the pure powder arrives, then who are we too complain???? By the sounds of it a group of people have gone too great lengths of having a new RC made up-to the highest chemical synthesising standards possible and researched it as much as possible in regards too optimum dosage and method of delivery. For this they should receive a good pay out for their hard work and due diligence in providing a high end RC for the masses, cos sure enough the Chinese will synthesise it and flood the market as per usual, quite possibly leading too increased usage and unwanted media attention
I personally can't wait till it finally becomes retail ready and I can place an order and see what happens. Should be very interesting indeed and a full TR will be written up for here I think
And before anyone gets funny about this post, I am legit, I am a drug geek, I love raving and I love experimenting with all sorts of drugs, be it powder pill gas crystal herb or liquid!
Hopefully this rant makes sense, re-read it a few times now and i've spraffed quite a bit
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After reading through this here thread, all 30+ pages of it, there seems too be quite a few prominent figures from BL that I would personally say are held in high regard here, have been lucky enough to receive a genuine sample of 6-APB or BENZO FURY!!!!! as it's sadly going too be labelled as for the kiddies
From this i've managed too cobble together the following facts....
- Oral consumption is the best ROA
- 100mg is the dose to start off on, anything less seems to me like a waste of chemical
- Anything but a light meal a few hours before hand is going too diminish the potency and increase the come up time partially
- The initial "pellets" ARE going to be £10...no useful discount unless you buy 250+
- "Personally I'd put it very close to MDMA indeed. In some ways I might even go so far as to say it was better but YMMV - "good" is totally subjective."
Everyone seems to forget, this includes people on here and IRL, that this new chemical is LEGAL, can be ordered on the net and is supposedly as cleanly synthesised as possible, well in regards too the few who have had the 2nd batch that is a different colour and just as potent...
What am I getting at?
Is this the new "E" for our current generation????
I'm nearly 30. I missed out on quite possibly all the best times for when pills where pills and raves where raves....Only started on drugs about 3 years ago, started off on a bit of smoke and now i'm pretty deep into all forms of drug use for recreational purposes. Stimulants and Psychedelics are fascinating too me, but it seems I missed the boat in regards too being able too wander into a club at midnight, be sold a pill, by 1am coming up hard and raving for the next 6+ hours and leaving a happy, loved up mess of a person. This just doesn't happen any more and I personally believe it has ruined club culture for quite a few people, myself included!
Mephedrone came quite close too offering quite a decent night out initially, but it grew very tiresome very quickly for me. Nearly everyone else around me continued too use it far too frequently and it started too dull them a little round the edges, doses where getting bigger and bigger and far more frequent to get the same "dunt", why was this all possible? Because it was legal...because it was sold in headshops very openly and obviously the net as well, because the majority of people care very little about research and harm reduction, this legal drug was perfectly acceptable to cain constantly, it must be fine as it's legal....how wrong they where!
I sincerely hope that drugs like 6-APB are popular enough to make it into the mainstream club and drug culture and revive a shoddy nightclub experience for millions up and down the country weekend after weekend. If it does become as popular as MMCAT, then I hope that it is treated with the respect all chemicals of this nature should receive, with care and caution!
If it stays at £10 a "pellet" for the next 3+ months until the pure powder arrives, then who are we too complain???? By the sounds of it a group of people have gone too great lengths of having a new RC made up-to the highest chemical synthesising standards possible and researched it as much as possible in regards too optimum dosage and method of delivery. For this they should receive a good pay out for their hard work and due diligence in providing a high end RC for the masses, cos sure enough the Chinese will synthesise it and flood the market as per usual, quite possibly leading too increased usage and unwanted media attention
I personally can't wait till it finally becomes retail ready and I can place an order and see what happens. Should be very interesting indeed and a full TR will be written up for here I think
And before anyone gets funny about this post, I am legit, I am a drug geek, I love raving and I love experimenting with all sorts of drugs, be it powder pill gas crystal herb or liquid!
Hopefully this rant makes sense, re-read it a few times now and i've spraffed quite a bit
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