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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Like everyone else, I am quite attracted by this, but I would like to know the legalities of this - I am on probation, so being caught with any illegal substances (no matter how unlikely) would result in a major fuck up with me. Can anyone summarise how this gets around the law?
 
^depends which country you're in.... UK is fine, there is no provision for the generic banning of compounds with furan or dihydrofuran substituents on the benzene ring under the phenethylamines catch all clause. I think its fine in European countries too, but you'd have to check local laws to be sure.

However, places with analogue laws would contest that it is substantially structurally similar to MDA.
 
Basically there a carbon-carbon double bond instead of an Oxygen atom or a single carbon-carbon bond. The latter two would be illegal (MDA and 6-APDB*) whereas the C=C bond makes this legal.

*I think that may actually be legal as well, but there is some debate

It may however come up as an illegal on simple drug tests, and the po-po certainly will be suspicious of it if they find you with it, but it is legal so technically they won't be able to do anything, but if there were to find it they might try and put you through hell until you prove to them what it is.
 
Feel a little ashamed to say that I've never bothered with an allergy test with every other substance I've enjoyed - GBL, MDMA, pills (who knows what has been in those!), Meph, coke, cannabis and so far I've been just fine so assuming everyone else is having positive reports and also suggesting that 100mg is the preferred dose... when I get hold of some 100mg pellets, is the general concensus, straight down the hatch?! Also, what's the total duration from dropping to baseline (able to function 100% straight as in driving etc)?
 
If you have previous experience with MDMA (and ideally some level of experience with psyches but the psychedelic side isn't at all intense, in my experience) then I'm pretty sure 100mg would be a good dose for most. Obviously we don't know a huge amount about the stuff yet and there have been reports of people finding just 50mg to be a pretty strong dose. Only you know if you feel okay to deal with a possibly more intense than expected night but it seems to be "safe" (based on very limited known use anywhere so far) at 100mg and also higher doses (although definitely not a good idea to go above 100mg initially, I'd say).

Baseline to baseline seems to be up to 24 hours in total but intense effects are of similar duration to MDMA - maybe a bit longer. Residual stimulation seems to linger a fair while but is actually quite pleasant - no real comedown/crash feelings and remarkably clear-headed too.
 
Harambulus said:
Guys,

I'm still pretty confused by the purported level of stimulation people are reporting.

Would you guys say this IS or is NOT suitable for 'zoning out into a hypnotic trance while dancing the ngiht away'?

How does it compare with MDMA in that dept. cos I think I've read alot of ppl find pure mdma too 'mellow' to dance to if they havn't had pure stuff and were used to caffeine/speed pill aldulterants. For me though when I had MDMA, yea I did find it more mellow than most pills but also really great for dancing to. I'm quite fit (or was lol! not excercised properly for a while) so I don't really need stimulation but rather just the headspace to zone out into the music.

So if it's on par with MDMA in that sense it will be just dandy.
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for me it totally felt great for clubbing (maybe better in an open air) but still... I didn't get very talkative but for the first 3 hours I wanted to dance!!! and I actually danced inside my house feeling a bit frustrated I didn't take it to a rave...
You can check my report here:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=510243
 
Thanks Shambles. Some come downs have been as interesting as the preceeding highs, first bash on MDMA and the come down involved auditory hallucinations... had been up all night on it, got no sleep yet drove to work and home again still feeling trippy (smacked wrist). Meph has been quite interesting too, seeing fractal patterns after the high wore off (did 3 250mg bombs the first time I tried it) and latterly I and friends have seen stuff in '3D' when we've watched vids on laptops etc - as long as you know WHY you're having a bit of a starnge experience I think it's all the easier to deal with it!
 
has anyone whose sampled it so far tried some nitrous while on it yet? I'd be very interested how the two combine ;-)
 
Given the information shared so far, I would be comfortable with starting at a 100mg dose.

That's based on my drugs experience. If it's too much, I doubt it's dangerous and so it'll be slightly unpleasant at most (nahhhhh). If anybody has any doubt, surely starting lower and working up is just common sense. It's just this thread is chock full of dosage recommendations, over and over again
 
The nitrous suggestion is an interesting one, would be very curious to see if anybody has had experience with them combined
 
Has anyone plugged this yet? I have sample waiting for me an GF when I get back on Tuesday. Did quiet a lot of Meph this way and was alot cleaner and less dose. I also used to crush MDMA pills and do this way and lessen the puke factor. Interested to know if anyone went down this road and what results ? maybe we will be guineas .....
 
tonyscott said:
Has anyone plugged this yet? I have sample waiting for me an GF when I get back on Tuesday. Did quiet a lot of Meph this way and was alot cleaner and less dose. I also used to crush MDMA pills and do this way and lessen the puke factor. Interested to know if anyone went down this road and what results ? maybe we will be guineas .....
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How do you 'plug'? Wouldn't know where to start...
 
Most likely the plugged dose would be somewhat lower and hit much harder and faster. I'd probably go for 50mg (maybe 75mg if it were I as 100mg oral is just a touch too light for my taste) but that really is a pure guess cos I have no idea of the various BA figures. Seems to be broadly similar to MDMA but just slightly more potent weight for weight but - again - just guesswork and observation rather than actual factual info.
 
What's the taste like? Would sub-lingual be an option? If so would that typically be the same as rectal in terms of dosage?
 
more reports of people being sick. Has anyone taken it and not felt like they were going to throw up?
 
I got no nausea at all at any point. The infamous come-up poo is a very real phenomenon with this stuff though - more so than similar drugs, I found. Seems to cause some level of GI discomfort for many but don't recall anybody mentioning actually spewing - more just a bit of nausea on the come-up. I really didn't get any at all myself though but rarely get nauseous on any drugs - if you're prone to it you may well feel a bit queasy on the way up. Once it kicks in proper though I doubt you'll care =D
 
busby said:
more reports of people being sick. Has anyone taken it and not felt like they were going to throw up?
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i think that a pool would be very good about this among people who already tried this substance so that we know how often this occurs (also would be good too ask whether they get sick on md(m)a ).
 
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