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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Come on people, this is getting kind of childish.
To the people researching tonight: please be extremely carefull!
But also have fun!!! I'm crossing fingers for all of you and please report soon for the community.
 
Hi, first post (shit, in at the deep end. Promise I'm not a v****r!). Also received the red capsules as described above. Cracked one open and did a dab and lick allergy test. Mine tasted sweet and mildly chemical-bitter, it also numbed my tongue slightly...odd.

10 caps ranged in gross weight from 0.51g to 0.62g. Powder contents of the one I cracked open weighed 0.39g. I'd say the taste was commensurate with a 1 - 3 cut.

My 2 cents on cutting is that the dose range of 6-apb is so small, cutting it (with glucose?) would make weighing and packaging the capsules less prone to dose error. The original branded Mephedrone capsules were never bang on 250mg. They ranged from 250mg - 320mg of (supposedly) pure product. A slightly overweight mephedrone cap would make for a slightly more intense experience. A +50mg packing error with 6-apb would make for an uncomfortable experience for some! Hence the cut?
 
Trancendmental said:
My 2 cents on cutting is that the dose range of 6-apb is so small, cutting it (with glucose?) would make weighing and packaging the capsules less prone to dose error. The original branded Mephedrone capsules were never bang on 250mg. They ranged from 250mg - 320mg of (supposedly) pure product. A slightly overweight mephedrone cap would make for a slightly more intense experience. A +50mg packing error with 6-apb would make for an uncomfortable experience for some! Hence the cut?
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This is not true, the original meph pills contained a dose of mcat + caffeine with added amfepramone since they where beeing sold as diet pills.
If the 6-apb content on these caps is as hit and miss as the meph caps where, then we should wait for a more decent/pure product.
 
It's garbage time! You gotta love when crossing your fingers is the best you're willing to do for harm reduction lol who knows what's in the pills, as one brainiac stated, it could be napalm...you people are a real trip. Bioassay your red mystery pills! Bioassay away folks! I'm stocking up on these so I can spray paint them blue and resell them as "true blue 6-apb" and get rich next Thursday off you lot. Wow! WTF!?!?
 
Sorry my english isn't that good.
There is a lot more you can do for harm reduction of course, more than crossing fingers.
For example, I would do an allergy test first, and then I wouldn't drop the whole 400mg capsule, I would do a Marquis test first to see if it turns the right color it's supposed to.

But that's me. That's what I meant when I saied: please be carefull.
But they aren't me. So I'm just hoping everything goes fine.
 
CatfishRivers said:
It's garbage time! You gotta love when crossing your fingers is the best you're willing to do for harm reduction lol who knows what's in the pills, as one brainiac stated, it could be napalm...you people are a real trip. Bioassay your red mystery pills! Bioassay away folks! I'm stocking up on these so I can spray paint them blue and resell them as "true blue 6-apb" and get rich next Thursday off you lot. Wow! WTF!?!?
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QFT... Although I dont agree with the "let them eat poison if they choose" attitude. We are ultimately here to reduce harm, and instead of judging people as fools and condemning them as fools, maybe we should try to minimise the harm that could be caused?

I'd urge anyone that has already made up their mind that they are taking these pills, to first start with an Allergy dose, then try something along the lines of a quarter tonight, and then the rest of the pill tomorrow, treat them carefully, and providing its not something horrendously potent, like a 2c or Nappydrone or something, you should be ok. I know its teaching your gran to suck eggs, but hammering the point home is more productive than bitching about how everyone got scammed and bickering like children.
 
I see I've got some cleaning to do... few more coffees to wake up first though :)

I've aired my doubts before so won't bother again but I will reiterate my urging of exercising caution with these caps. Other than that, interested to see the reports. I would strongly suggest not taking 400-600mg of random powder at once though...

FWIW, my last "nearly finished" samples that came in capsules the same size as these red ones and came complete with branded packaging contained 100mg of off-white, new synth 6-APB powder with no fillers and survived the post just fine. The cuts are unnecessary for the reasons given... How would cuts affect a Marquis test? Anyone know?
 
now don't get me wrong here people, i am going to be ordering a marquis test myself in the next week or so.
however, not being a chemist or having any chemistry knowledge, am i right in thinking that even if these recent powders or indeed any other powders were tested and came out blue, purple, black, it still isn't going to confirm that it is indeed 6-apb?
surely in could be some other substance that just gives the same result, or am i just being thick?
 
Shaker: Marquis probably won't confirm any chem's identity beyond all possible doubt but would certainly narrow the number of possibilities drastically. If these caps are - as somebody suggested a few pages back - the real thing but with impurities I would imagine they would show the same blue/purple colour-change as other samples of 6-APB unless very heavily tainted. If they show some other colour completely it would rule out 6-APB as a possibility. Not sure what effect the cutting agents would have hence my question about that. If anyone could post their Marquis results it would be of great help to a great many people :)
 
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definitely NOT BenzoFury !!!!
 
yeah, sorry for asking, you confirmed what i was actually thinking.
was just looking at the results posted in a link a few posts ago and 6-apb is actually the only one that turns dark blue/black.
just thought that maybe people may get sent mephedrone instead but marquis would definately rule this in/out
 
inorbit said:
definitely NOT BenzoFury !!!!
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Really? Please explain how you have come to this conclusion? We already know that these caps contain a bulking agent which is white in colour. Also the latest official sample batch was nearly white in colour. This is a different synth (if it turns out to be real). Its not out of the realms of possibility that this synth is better / cleaner than the official synth so it could well be very white. So again, how do you come to this conclusion??
 
I have heard alot of things about these capsules containing 6-apdb? (Cant go into anymore detail due to 'vendor talk' bullshit)
If it is the case though be careful :)
 
It would be good if someone who had tried the "official" samples was willing to try the new stuff thats out. After all, the majority people trying the red capsules dont seem to have recieved samples from official sources. Even if this new 6-APB isnt actually 6-APB, but is actually some other cocktail of stimulants, the people taking it might mistake it for 6-APB as they havent tried the official samples.. if you get what im trying to say
 
TMenderoflives said:
It would be good if someone who had tried the "official" samples was willing to try the new stuff thats out. After all, the majority people trying the red capsules dont seem to have recieved samples from official sources. Even if this new 6-APB isnt actually 6-APB, but is actually some other cocktail of stimulants, the people taking it might mistake it for 6-APB as they havent tried the official samples.. if you get what im trying to say
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I have had an official sample and have some of these on the way as well as another official sample. However I wont be testing until Saturday night. I think by the end of tonight it should be pretty clear whether or not these contain 6-apb.

BTW the official stuff was bitter but no where near as bitter as some other RC's. I could imagine the taste being quite dumbed down by the bulking agent
 
Mullered said:
Really? Please explain how you have come to this conclusion? We already know that these caps contain a bulking agent which is white in colour. Also the latest official sample batch was nearly white in colour. This is a different synth (if it turns out to be real). Its not out of the realms of possibility that this synth is better / cleaner than the official synth so it could well be very white. So again, how do you come to this conclusion??
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I believe that I heard that real Benzo Fury when manufactured will form into very small (minute) spherical shapes, literally thousands of them. This picture (from the red capsules) seems to be more like a powder than the crushable spherical shapes I have been informed about. Probably why we have the “bulking” agent – an attempt to hide the true picture of what is actually in the capsules.
 
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