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The Big & Dandy 4-MeO-PCP Thread

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Have anybody else noticed loss of appetite after a trip?
This last week i've been eating significantly less then usual. Like yesterday i only had half a burger all day. And i love to eat food.

Found this on another forum when googling "4-meo-pcp +appetite":
I also suspect it to be liver toxic, after doing about a gram over the weekend, I had dark smelly urine and very pale/yellowish skin for a few days, also complete lack of energy and appetite suppression.
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yeah i had reduced appetite for a couple days actually, and the body glow lasted into the second day after...

i took 315 mg and it totally blew me away. one of the most intense drug experiences i've ever had. It was more than amazing. Next time I will prob take less. I thought I was under dosing a bit, but whoopsies nope.
 
I don't know about DXM but ketamine suppresses my appetite as well - really significantly.

Considering they are dissociatives I can see how you lose contact with your physical drives for food, sex, hot, cold, comfort or whatever. And 4-MeO-PCP has such a long duration (I don't even know what the halflife is and can't find it) it's not such a surprise lingering dissociative effects like appetite suppresion last well into the following week.
After taking way too much ketamine it happens to me as well - I think the metabolite norketamine is at least partially responsible for that though as I've heard it has a crazy long halflife.
 
4-methoxy-PCP leaves my taste buds and sense of smell dulled for well past 72 hours. I can't imagine having a big appetite in such a dissociated afterglow state.
 
I believe so. Seen it for sale at places that only do UK legal chems so they must think so anyway.
 
I had quite the shake up using 4-MeO-PCP on top of DXM and ondansetron last Sunday. I used 70 mg plugged on top of 500 mg of DXM and 12 mg of ondansetron taken a couple of hours after first dosing the DXM.

I got to the point where I was so utterly blown that when I asked myself "what" out loud in reaction to a state of confusion I couldn't understand what "what" meant! My girlfriend knocked on the door so we could go to a party that afternoon and I had to open it totally sweaty and incoherent and tell her I was too sick to go. Later I told her what was up because she was understandably worried to see me in such a state. I think the DXM's serotonin reuptake inhibiting properties cause some mild hyperthermia and a fever-like state of delirium. It was a strange state that vacillated between shock and terror and ecstatic bliss on a second-to-second basis.

After I got past the point of confusion and delerium I was filled with an incredible sense of contentment and clarity of thought. The experience was precisely what I needed to blast myself out of the ennui I've been feeling lately. I don't recommend these means, because they're pretty extreme and potentially dangerous, but it seems to have worked if my initial reaction is to be believed.
 
The feeling of clarity has lasted. After I became sober I slept for twelve hours. Yesterday I fell asleep unexpectedly at 6 and slept until 8:30. Then I woke up, visited the girlfriend for a little while, and came back and went to sleep at 12:30. Today I woke up at 11:30 a.m. with my thoughts racing about plans to slow down my drug intake, workout more, change some eating habits, and focus on academics as I start a new doctoral program later this week. It's like something's been "awakened" in my subconscious and it needs my conscious self to stay out of the way while it does some metaprogaming in my sleep or something. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens to see if these intuitions are to be believed.
 
It seems daft that this one is so available and the more potent 3meo version is not :(
 
^Yeah, I regret that I won't be able to get more 3-MeO after the small additional sample I've received is gone (at least not for awhile). But at the same time only around 10 people have used the 3-MeO that I know of, all experienced trippers, and two of them ended up going catatonic and waking up it the mental hospital after combining it with PCE. It seems to lower inhibitions such that it can get the better of even experienced trippers after awhile. It's a very complex and worthwhile material, but honestly it may be for the best that it's not available to a wider group of people. At least with 4-MeO-PCP the dosage is much higher so the reckless people who inevitably get their hands on these compounds can eyeball it more forgivingly. The 4-MeOs apparent lack of mu activity and more straight NMDA antagonism likewise probably makes it safer than 3-MeO... With luck some new ketamine analogues that are both safer and more qualitatively diverse than these PCP-alikes will hit the market in the not too distant future.
 
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It seems daft that this one is so available and the more potent 3meo version is not :(
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3-MeO-PCP doesn't sound heavily dissociative or psychedelic like ketamine, PCP, and 4-MeO-PCP. They're almost different classes of drugs it sounds like.
 
Getting some of this but I'm wondering about the best ROA?

So far I've gathered it's rectal but does anybody know what oral doses are like and if they are as intense?
 
Orally I've found between 50 and 100mg to be a lot of fun. Although saying that I've haven't tried anything higher yet. :)

For me those doses go very well with a few drinks to leave me a happy stumbling chatty mess.
 
Wow, what a fascinating chemical!

Last night I decided to take the plunge.

65mg of powdered 4-MeO-PCP in a capsule was swallowed.
After exactly 55 minutes, I was feeling sort-of swirly, my motor skills and limbs started to feel and move like when robo-walking on K. Same funny feeling about my surroundings - same 'nitrous oxide' surreal feeling going on.

I decided to eat 70mgs more to break through.

Exactly one hour after ingestion, I laid back on my bed, and started flying.
It was like constructing dreams in Inception - creating, experiencing and editing a super-high quality world, like a highly detailed sandbox that I was in charge of. I saw and built some amazing structures in marvels of colours. I hovered, floated and flew through all sorts of atmospheres on both earth and other planets. Space and the stars were absolutely wonderful.

Amazing high, better than K - but the aftermath is kinda annoying.
 
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