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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - 2nd MiPteration

Honestly, I'd just bag it up really tight and nicely, and maybe put some desiccant in it. Get one of those jars with a cork and store it away from heat/sunlight.

I'm sure one of the reasons why miprocin is usually in fumarate form is because it is very stable. Good for us as well as the providers, even though it is less potent per mg than the hcl, I think around 2/3 or around there.

Of course, the type of storage you're inquiring about is another viable option too. But I just think the old fashioned way is easier and probably more than good enough for miprocin.
 
breathes out....I know furmate is a bit weaker, fumarate is 2/3 for sure?

all miprocin ive seen are fumarates, so most likely not a good idea to up the dose or anything esp when first experimenting with it bc it might be strong many Been researching days and days on this compound and reading a lot of reports last night, -from memory of the stories ive read last night-some people reports first time reports were 25 and 30 respectably, and one person said it was colors were so bright and maybe too overwhelming and the other said it was too much and looks like no more than 20 mgs. one person did like 38 mgs and said it was way too much and wish never did it and recommended 19 mgs....so to each their own what one wants to get out of it think +1 or +2 at most is good for first timer--just my personal feelings on the subject

a lot of people say this one had happy like qualities and thats why they love it-Empathogen-entactogen (happy) effects

where would 15-20 mgs get a person for time, and I realize everyone's mileage may vary...as a general rule though wondering what seems to be about the concenus--- +1+2+3 ? hopefully no +4 or +5 ? were talking about first timers here wanting to take it easy , more comfortable, again no more than 2.5 ?
 
Innerpeace said:
breathes out....I know furmate is a bit weaker, fumarate is 2/3 for sure?

all miprocin ive seen are fumarates, so most likely not a good idea to up the dose or anything esp when first experimenting with it bc it might be strong many Been researching days and days on this compound and reading a lot of reports last night, -from memory of the stories ive read last night-some people reports first time reports were 25 and 30 respectably, and one person said it was colors were so bright and maybe too overwhelming and the other said it was too much and looks like no more than 20 mgs. one person did like 38 mgs and said it was way too much and wish never did it and recommended 19 mgs....so to each their own what one wants to get out of it think +1 or +2 at most is good for first timer--just my personal feelings on the subject

a lot of people say this one had happy like qualities and thats why they love it-Empathogen-entactogen (happy) effects

where would 15-20 mgs get a person for time, and I realize everyone's mileage may vary...as a general rule though wondering what seems to be about the concenus--- +1+2+3 ? hopefully no +4 or +5 ? were talking about first timers here wanting to take it easy , more comfortable, again no more than 2.5 ?
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Yeah, the individual varies. As you say, 20mg for someone can be anywhere from +2 to a +3, with the strength of each varying as well. So it could be a 2.1 or 3.3 or whatever heh, I like that. I doubt it'd be a +1 or +4 though.

Yeah, I'm positive it's at 66% potency compared to the hcl if my memory serves me correct. I gleaned that from the previous miprocin B & D, and in the beginning of that thread I think the consensus was that the people who took it in the early days tried the hcl version. So, their 20 mg trip was the equivalent of 30mg for the fumarate form.

But you have the right mindset. If in doubt, start lower. Anywhere between 10-20mg sounds about right. Oh, and take an allergy dose before as well. I took <1mg but of course I don't count it because I didn't trip off of it. Just for safety reasons. :)

Yeah, it does seem to have some empathogenic/entactogenic qualities to it. I would say a little bit more so than the original mushies. The euphoria is strong and it's definitely one of those feel-good tryptamines. I'm sure you'll enjoy it!
 
for wanting to keep purity optimal for a long time

silica packets work well right? and do I just put put them in the sealed container and put silcia desiccants in with the actual powder? ?

same thing with oxygen absorbers, are these okay with miprocin ,since they are not okay long term for sugar and salt , as they make them hard.

and put these in the container or in with the actual powder inside the bag?
 
Innerpeace said:
for wanting to keep purity optimal for a long time

silica packets work well right? and do I just put put them in the sealed container and put silcia desiccants in with the actual powder? ?

same thing with oxygen absorbers, are these okay with miprocin ,since they are not okay long term for sugar and salt , as they make them hard.

and put these in the container or in with the actual powder inside the bag?
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How much powder do you have? If you have about a gram, get an amber pyrex vial. Make sure it has a cap with a proper lining. Something like this:
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Then store it in the freezer.

You can read more about storing drugs here: The-Big-and-Dandy-Storage-Thread

Innerpeace said:
is this one okay to use a pde-5 inhibitor (Cialis) ?
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Yes, I can't see why not :)
 
Incunabula said:
How much powder do you have? If you have about a gram, get an amber pyrex vial. Make sure it has a cap with a proper lining. Something like this:
NSFW for size.
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serveimage


Then store it in the freezer.

You can read more about storing drugs here: The-Big-and-Dandy-Storage-Thread


Yes, I can't see why not :)
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250 mgs and some other powders -one other 250 mgs and one about 500 mgs or so-all different rc's.(3-fpm, 5-mapb)

can these all be stored in the same container, like something like a supplement container?

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looking to store these for years because life is busy and researching these happens few and far between.

and silica packets and oxygen absorbers in the container, or in the actually bag with the rc or bag outside the bag with the rc?
 
You should read the thread I linked you. Or some of it, and it's actually the right place for the questions you are asking.

I'd say, put you baggies in the supplement container with the dessicant (silica packets) and the oxygen absorbers. Don't put the dessicant and the oxygen absorbers inside the zip-lock bags.

imo, then store that in a cold and dark place. Not the fridge or the freeze because it's a moist environment, and you're not protecting your compounds enough to put them in there.

You have to understand, that zip-lock bags aren't airtight, and the jar you are keeping it in will contain air. Also, iron based oxygen absorbers (the most common ones) need moisture to work...so....Anyway, the phenethylamines you have are going to last a long time no matter what you do. 4-oh-tryptamines are more unstable though. As I said, uptimal for tryptamines is to put them in a tightly sealed vial. One that has a siz so it gets filled up, then stick that in the freezer.
 
Innerpeace, I can't comment on if it's safe or not to use this material with Viagra, but I will say this: I've never been so horny on a drug as I have been with miprocin. You might not even need a pde-5 inhibitor!
 
3 Days ago I did an INSANE miprocin trip ; 75mg miprocin, 1.5-2g aniracetam, 750mg centrophenoxine, 150mg noopept and shit ton of L-Theanine. plus that mornin I took 2g phenibut which ended at the beginning of the miprocin trip.

Visuals were easily close to losing contact with reality, what was the most incredible was that I felt so in sync with the universe; I could answer before people would talk, see shit tons of geometrical patterns with dots and coordinates like a graphic and somehow it all made sense. I even unlocked the door for a friend that forgot something without knowing what he forgot and even without him knowing he forgot something, I just saw a number and felt like unlocking and opening the door. Same thing with words. People coulndt understand what I was saying cuz I had too much in mind to generate a sentence. I only talked by gestures and words but was more precise than ever cuz I was litteraly talking to what the person was thinking ... was awsome. Plus hallucinations were not only patterns over the world, the world too was morphing but at my will like deciding to make a dead plant regain life.. was INSANE. (of course only hallucinations not real)
 
Mracid said:
3 Days ago I did an INSANE miprocin trip ; 75mg miprocin, 1.5-2g aniracetam, 750mg centrophenoxine, 150mg noopept and shit ton of L-Theanine. plus that mornin I took 2g phenibut which ended at the beginning of the miprocin trip.

Visuals were easily close to losing contact with reality, what was the most incredible was that I felt so in sync with the universe; I could answer before people would talk, see shit tons of geometrical patterns with dots and coordinates like a graphic and somehow it all made sense. I even unlocked the door for a friend that forgot something without knowing what he forgot and even without him knowing he forgot something, I just saw a number and felt like unlocking and opening the door. Same thing with words. People coulndt understand what I was saying cuz I had too much in mind to generate a sentence. I only talked by gestures and words but was more precise than ever cuz I was litteraly talking to what the person was thinking ... was awsome. Plus hallucinations were not only patterns over the world, the world too was morphing but at my will like deciding to make a dead plant regain life.. was INSANE. (of course only hallucinations not real)
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Love that "tryptamine telepathy" it's deep
 
for someone that coupel use this as there first trip ever...I know music on empathogons is techno, trance, house, etc ( edm word as a crude term right?)

what about music on this stuff is there a particular category that best goes with this music? would empathogon music work well?

heard this stuff is similar to psilocin , maybe a bit more empathogen-entacogeonic
 
I don't know, whatever music you like would be good. Personally I like anything interesting on any substance or sober. I'm sure "empathogen music" would work great, or something you'd take for a psychedelic.
 
Keep in mind that music can greatly color the mood of the psychedelic experience. First time I dosed this I played Stravinsky and my mind was swallowed by the complex narrative of what was going on in the music. I found myself locked inwards. Then I tried to change the music, but everything sounded "bland" in comparison, plain and uninteresting, so I couldn't enjoy music anymore and ended turning it off altogether.

Another time I started the trip with more upbeat music and the whole experience was a lot more euphoric.
 
so true how music effects mood so much and with a trip its a huge setting so pick happy music , upbeat etc if thats your thing...or for relaxing, chillen, reggae or happy jazz or something


My friend, yes it is my friend, is on effexor xr which is a ssni, I looked up what i could, theres not much on it though, and some say miprocin and this can interact and other story said girlfriend was on this and tripped..of course it could be dose related. anyone know if these are safe?

I'm erring on the side of caution of this one, something tells me if im not totally sure dont do it, just want to know if anyone knows though
 
I have recently ordered a gram of miprocin from a reputable vendor. Can't wait untill it does get here. For my first trip I'm gonna take a small dose, probably 5-10 milligrams just to test the waters. I have read alot of research on all of the 4 sub tryptamines and miprocin just seems to stick out to me compared to the other 4 subs. I almost feel like my unconsciousness is telling me to do miprocin over the 4 sub tryptamines I could do. I guess I feel that I have some sort of a connection with this drug even though I have not tried it yet. Does anyone else ever feel a strong connection to a drug before they ever do them, Like something outside myself is telling me this is the drug for me.
 
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