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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread

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anyone mix with MXE?

Anyone here try this gem with some MXE?

Im thinking 15mg of 4-ho-met and 35-45mg of MXE this weekend...
 
Having only recently come across this amazing substance, I thought I'd share a recent experience:

9:06pm 26mg 4-HO-MET
9:13pm Kitchen cupboards morphing, great feeling. I'm totally in control... relaxed while it happens.
9:30pm Wow amazed at the beauty of the song (Lindstrom).
9:37pm Slightly freaky face and hand morphing before my eyes. I feel secure.
9:44pm laughing
9:45pm Psych colours. Baby, yeah!
10:00pm Light (At this point i remember killing myself laughing as I wrote the word, feeling it was the most underwhelming statement in relation to what I was seeing)

No notes for a while - what ensued was a very ecstasy like euphoria, an amazing feeling of being 'washed over' with light. I was incapable of doing anything but experiencing the sensation. Some time dialation.

11:10pm So fked
11:24pm Coming down bit
11:52pm Pretty much over

I was still a bit hazy but cleared by the time I went to bed about 1pm.

Noteworthy points:
1) As already stated in this thread, came up in about 10 min.
2) Very visual type of experience.
3) Distinct lack of fear (as I have had periodically on other psychedelics).
4) Very ecstasy like euphoria, I almost felt like I was going to burst.
5) Was aware of some slight tingling in the fingers so probably some vascocontriction.
6) Virtually no bodyload the following day. Agree it's very 'clean'.

Highly, highly impressed.
 
The lack of body load as well as the lightness of the material while still keeping a huge sparkle and potential for psychedelia is really what makes this stuff shine for me as well. Highly recommended, maybe not the mileage of 4-AcO-DMT but much more fun.
 
stonerish said:
Anyone here try this gem with some MXE?

Im thinking 15mg of 4-ho-met and 35-45mg of MXE this weekend...
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I actually tried this the other day. Took ~15mg of 4-HO-MET then about an hour in 10mg MXE, then another half hour later another 10mg MXE. Didn't get any untoward effects, but i did feel as if the MXE kinda took over, lost some of the tryptamine visuals etc. Interesting combo, and i might repeat it, but i don't feel particularly compelled to.

Solipsis said:
The lack of body load as well as the lightness of the material while still keeping a huge sparkle and potential for psychedelia is really what makes this stuff shine for me as well. Highly recommended, maybe not the mileage of 4-AcO-DMT but much more fun.
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I do like this one quite a bit, but it does seem to be missing some of the depth of 4-AcO-DMT.
 
^What was your highest dose with metocin alone? I find it can get really interesting past a certain point. It has had me face down buried in my pillow moaning, watching my soul energies unfold in to the void. Metocin becomes like a cosmic mirror for me, at the higher doses; it lets me see with great clarity what buddhists would call the 'three aspects of energy', dang, rolpa, and tsal.

In terms of energy – there are three characteristic ways in which the energy manifests – Dang, Rolpa, and rTsal (gDang, rol pa, and rTsal). Dang is the energy in which ‘internal’ and ‘external’ are not divided from that which manifests. It is symbolised by the crystal sphere which becomes the colour of whatever it is placed upon. Rolpa is the energy which manifests internally as vision. It is symbolised by the mirror. The image of the reflection always appears as if it is inside the mirror. rTsal is externally manifested energy which radiates. It is symbolised by the refractive capacity of the faceted crystal. For a realised being, this energy is inseparable in its manifestation from the dimension of manifest reality. Dang, Rolpa, and rTsal are not divided.

Dang, Rolpa and rTsal are not divided and neither are the ku-sum (sKu gSum – the trikaya) the three spheres of being. Chö-ku (chos sKu – Dharmakaya), the sphere of unconditioned potentiality, is the creative space from which the essence of the elements arises as long-ku (longs sKu - Sambhogakaya) the sphere of intangible appearances – light and rays, non material forms only perceivable by those with visionary clarity. Trülku (sPrul sKu – Nirmanakaya), the sphere of realised manifestation, is the level of matter in apparently solid material forms. The primordial base manifests these three distinct yet indivisible modes. (Van Schaik, 2004)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa#Three_aspects_of_energy
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I'm not a buddhist by the way ;) I just think that this particular notion describes very closely what is seen under the influence of 5-HT psychedelics, but most noteably for me, metocin.
 
very interesting quote there, definitely gonna do some further reading on that :)

My highest thus far is 20mg, plan to take it higher sometime in the relatively near future, but i unfortunately don't have the proper time to dedicate to many higher dose trips these days :\

At what dose have you found that metocin gets more interesting or subjectively "deep?"
 
20mg is a nice dose definitely. 30mg is deep for me; after I got in to rectal dosing of compounds I tried it with metocin, and it seems to hit quite hard, especially when you're already up. 15mg rectal on top of 15mg oral (after coming up) pushed me in to a very immersive space, which was - in typical -ocin fashion - quite wacky in character, but moreover becoming of dissolution and lucid reflection.

Oddly enough, I find metocin quite evasive when it comes to asking particular questions, preferring itself to dance on the precipice, teasing you with the bifurcation of endless iterations, rather than resolving to an easy answer for the satisfaction of your ego.
 
I imagine a full rectal dose of metocin would be similar to a full blown MET or DMT trip, as when I put 33mg of 4-aco-dmt up my ass it was incredibly similar to a 3-hour DMT trip. It lost a lot of the shroom qualities and just SHOT me to space. I'm gonna fucking do this I think as soon as I get more.
 
Between 4-7mg of 4-HO-MET

and

15-19mg of MXE

was ingested in a capsule...

It was a fairly benign experience for the first few hours...no real magic experienced...

And then I smoked some weed....

WTF man...I'm an everyday smoker too...but 0.2g of weed brought out what I didn't know was there....I wish I had smoked earlier...

Last time I tried this combo was at much higher doses... and with a cannabis edible with about 2g...it was pretty overwhelming...

This is much more mellow...although still not free of anxiety, but that may just be the mindset before dosing...nothing to worry about in any case...


Sorry for the rant/atrocity of language...this combo is about on par with xanax and alcohol (the combo) in terms of its effects on my writing/language use...
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wondering if anyone knew about combo with acid... looking at doing 2-3 drops of nice lsd and doing a 20mg cap? should i drop together to minimise tolerance or wait a bit? peace xx
 
stonerish said:
Between 4-7mg of 4-HO-MET

and

15-19mg of MXE

was ingested in a capsule...

It was a fairly benign experience for the first few hours...no real magic experienced...

And then I smoked some weed....

WTF man...I'm an everyday smoker too...but 0.2g of weed brought out what I didn't know was there....I wish I had smoked earlier...

Last time I tried this combo was at much higher doses... and with a cannabis edible with about 2g...it was pretty overwhelming...

This is much more mellow...although still not free of anxiety, but that may just be the mindset before dosing...nothing to worry about in any case...


Sorry for the rant/atrocity of language...this combo is about on par with xanax and alcohol (the combo) in terms of its effects on my writing/language use...
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I didn't smoke when i tried this combo, though i have smoked while on MXE alone, and sweet zombie jesus did it kick things up a few notches in intensity... was not expecting that much synergy with cannabis.
 
To my knowledge, you can, but you won't trip properly. Alprazolam is a benzo, and benzodiazepines are good trip-killers. Why do you want to combine these two?
 
^ Using it for comedown / as a sleep aid should be OK. Many people(including myself) use benzos after trips.
 
Ok question again :)

A friend of mine wanna try this stuff ! He is a daily smoker since 5 years (he smokes Weed really heavily everyday) and he took sometimes opiates like Codeine.

Do you think if i bring him some 4-Ho-MET (low dose) say 8-12mg, can he feel it or what ?

Thank you !
 
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How do you guys feel on the issue of snorting this stuff?

Is it safe?

Because, if it is...It is fucking awesome....8mg snorted along with 20mg MXE produced nice results
 
It can be safe but don't pass the 25mg range buddy ! Works low first as you feel safe with it !

Also anyone have an idea about my previous question ?
 
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