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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread

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I have a question, tomorrow i will trip with a friend for his first time. He said me he had allergy to Curry (aroma) his lips become inflated. Do you think it's dangerous for him to try 4-Ho-MET ? He is a daily smoker for 5 years (Hasch)

Thanks
 
Its always wise to do a low-dose allergy test before trying any compound for the first time. However i don't see how food-allergies would be any indication that someone would have an idiosyncratic reaction to a drug.
 
Ok thanks, do i need to do also a allergy test because it's a new batch of 4-ho or not ? I already tried it with others batches.

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Yes, do an allergy test even if it's from the same vendor because there is a possibility that something may have got mixed up o the order and it should be in our culture to do a test each and every time we receive a new substance regardless of past history.
 
Nobody out there has a magical crystal ball they can look into and tell you whether or not your “new batch” of drugs is as safe as your last batch of drugs. Yes, of course you should always test a new batch of highly potent and experimental psychedelic drugs, but if you had any common sense at all you would already know that without needing to ask.

I hate to be Mr. mean guy but Jesus Christ, that has got to be the dumbest serious question I’ve ever read on the internet.
 
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Ok thank you ! Like 2-3 mg is good ?
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Lets say your vendor also sells DOx compounds and the possibility of a 'mix up' IS a possibility < you would probably want to test said substance in the 1mg (or less) range and work up to the threshold amount of what you think you received to be sure.
 
This night might be the end of my abstinence period. Looks like four of us might be dosing ~12mg for a little "ehancement." Should be good fun if indeed the plan goes through. The moment feels right =]
 
Dropped 40mg in a bottle of water at a rave party, dranked the half of the bottle and left the rest to 3 friends.

We were all really surprised that it camed up like in 10 minutes, it was the first time my friends were trying this compound, and were freaking out about the speed of the come up.

Usually when i use lsd or shrooms, i have like 30 minutes during the come up when i dont wanna talk and feel like emptied of my substance, making me quite asociable and awkward.

However seeing my friends freaking out as they tooked 3 times less 4-ho than i did made this come up quite difficult, i was not understanding anything. Hopefully 45 minutes later the music putted me out of this stupor.

Wonderful visuals, and very little mindfuck. Love it
 
MescalitoBandito said:
hooray! tonight is time to trip again!
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Likewise. I think tonight deserves some extra enhancement.

This is such a great chemical. I've only tried it once at 12mg and will be consuming the same dose tonight. I was very surprised by how "clean" this one is, both in the body and the mind. It's like psychedelic candy!
 
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Dropped 40mg in a bottle of water at a rave party, dranked the half of the bottle and left the rest to 3 friends.

We were all really surprised that it camed up like in 10 minutes, it was the first time my friends were trying this compound, and were freaking out about the speed of the come up.

Usually when i use lsd or shrooms, i have like 30 minutes during the come up when i dont wanna talk and feel like emptied of my substance, making me quite asociable and awkward.

However seeing my friends freaking out as they tooked 3 times less 4-ho than i did made this come up quite difficult, i was not understanding anything. Hopefully 45 minutes later the music putted me out of this stupor.

Wonderful visuals, and very little mindfuck. Love it
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Isn't it awesome?


And, 10 minute comeup orally? Interesting - i've experienced 10 minute comeup from it, but only sublingually, and orally i on one occasion felt nothing for close to an hour (like, nothing at all) then shot up (presumably, at the time when it hit the small intestine)
 
I took more than 3 G of it during the last 4 years. There were enough test persons who used it too. My friends shared the experience, that doses larger than 50mg cause annoying sedation. I'd say it's as safe as 4-HO-DMT is. As usual with serotonergic Psychedelics there's some vascoconstriction present.
 
^^ What kind of nyw data you expect to apper while you were logged off the site? ;)
I doubt that any scientific research will be done on this compound. And, does it matter so much, when it comes to your experience? It is all about you, why do you think this compound is unsafe to you? Do you get any negative side effects from it?
 
Well to be honest. I enjoyed the experience and literrally fall in love with this stuff, but I feel that when I test again it's never the same, I have some physical discomfort that I have not in other experiments.
I can't find my proper dose and it sucks ! Sometimes 8mg is hard for me, sometimes when i took 20mg it's not that hard or i barely feel nothing. Don't know what's going on.

Plus something make me "worries". Last time a friend of mine got his heart beating loud (not fast but loud). He took 3 caps of 4-HO-MET (about 10mg/cap) + 1,5gr of shrooms and Cannabis at the same time and he said to me : I had the impression that i'm on speed, he says that his heart beat loud but he didn't worry about it.

So i never saw this kind of reaction and i'm sceptic to tried it again even if i love the visuals of this stuff and the "no mindfuck" but the physical reaction with 4-ho-met look like unpredictable. So that's why i still ask question about physical side effect and especially with heart beat and blood pressure, because i had an experience with BromoDragonFLY in the past and it gave me huge vasoconstriction, i went to the ER for 2 days in reanimation because the blood didn't pass well. I nearly die on it !! (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=83478).

Well that's why i'm always anxious but i know when i tried 4-ho-met for the first time with 16mg it was very cool, chill, great visuals, no "fear" effects and no bodyload for the first time i tried it. But the second time was not the same i took 30mg+ by mistake cause my scale was broken and during the trip it was very strong, i was very pale and my heart was beating slowly. I tried it for the third time in a parc with 22mg, it was strong but manageable, just something was wrong with my lips because my friend which was sober said that they were maroon (colour of the lips) not as usual. I also experiment some "tension" like my body was empty in the "inside".

It's my RC of choice, but anytime i tried it again, it sounds like it's not the same experiment.... well not the same feeling + the friend who said it was speedy on his heart (combined with mushrooms/cannabis, don't know if he did something wrong) make me more anxious in the past, but i really enjoy the experience, it gave me the same visual as LSD even more brighter and stuff...

Thank you and sorry for my very basic english
 
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but I feel that when I test again it's never the same
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Every trip is unique, isn't it? You cannot step twice into the same river. ;)

Sometimes 8mg is hard for me, sometimes when i took 20mg it's not that hard or i barely feel nothing. Don't know what's going on.
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This is strange, are you sure you doses were measured out correctly? Are you scales precise enough? Also, did you space out your trips, so you don't let the tolerance grow?
And set and setting do matter.

There is always some discomfort, which I believe, comes from 5-HT receptors agonism. It is like payment for positive effects. Sometimes we pay more(2C-E for example), sometimes we pay less(4-HO-MET). And in my experience that "payment" for 4-HO-MET is the smallest comparing to other psychedelics I tried.
But there is no absolutely safe drug.

He took 3 caps of 4-HO-MET (about 10mg/cap) + 1,5gr of shrooms and Cannabis at the same time and he said to me
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So your friend combined a large dose of 4-HO-MET and a dose of shrooms, then smoked some weed... How can you be sure that 4-HO-MET made his heart racing? Weed itself is hard on circulatory system, and can raise your blood preasure and heart rate.

But didn't your friend tell you that there is nothing to worry? If you don't have terrible problems with heart, you'll be alright with 100-130 BPM.

Also, of course, psychedelics can raise your heart rate, I got such effect from 20 mg of 2C-T-2 rectally, but it wasn't a problem for me. I think this can happen on a high dose of 4-HO-MET too, it is quite common effect for psychedelics.

i had an experience with BromoDragonFLY in the past and it gave me huge vasoconstriction, i went to the ER for 2 days in reanimation because the blood didn't pass well. I nearly die on it !! (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=83478).
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Wow, I read your report in the past! It is a good report, and it is great that you're alright now. I wouldn't touch Bromo-Dragonfly with a ten foot pole. But 4-HO-MET is much more safe compound, and you should worry much less taking it. You describe some weird side-effects from high doses, like pale lips, and this means that you should be careful and take it with caution. But it probably won't harm you.

It's my RC of choice
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So enjoy it! :)

Also, your english is quite good. :)
 
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