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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread

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bikeguy said:
I received 500mg in early november. It's gone now. This is a truly magical substance, especially at higher doses. The most memorable trip was on around 60mg (with tolerance). I went outside to smoke a cigarette and when i walked in I just stood in the center of my living room. All in feat. Big B off of Dirtball's Crook County album was playing on my laptop. Time became of no relevance. It felt as if every interaction, event, and experience in my life came down to this single moment. THe entire room was rippling, hard. It was a truly enlightening experience, one that I will surely remember the rest of my life, possible being one among thousands of trips come the day i die.

As far as what i learned about the substance, tolerance is strong and diminishes fast. 48 hours between trips requires approx. double the dose. 72 hours maybe 50%, 96 hours maybe 20%, with tolerance being hard to distinguish past five days. I'd say anything over 40mg without a tolerance will have diminishing returns. Keep in mind this is the fumarate, not HCL. The HCL variant requires approximately 3/4 the dose. For a first timer that wants a memorable trip and who is experienced with psychedelics, I would suggest somewhere around 35mg fumarate for a balls to the wall trip. Maybe a little more if you are as crazy as me.

In my opinion this chemical beats psilocybin. The only other tryptamine I have tried is 4-aco-mipt and IMO there is no comparison in all aspects.

I've been using a gemini-20 scale that is under 40 dollars and am more than pleased with it.

I would also like to add that this substance seems to have an "energy" that goes with it. I don't think synergy is the right word. It almost felt as if i was facing a strong wind. But there was no wind obviously. The closest thing I can compare the visuals to is what a flag does in the wind.

I also prefer to take this substance alone. Combined with 2c-e is nice, but I feel 4-aco-mipt takes away from the experience. Mushrooms would be interesting, very interesting...

Weed is good as always, but try to keep it to a minimum.


This is hands down my favorite psychedelic.
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It is a wonderful psyche indeed. It is definitely capable.

phatass said:
could my ssri esscitalopram interfere with the effects of the 4HOMET???? i took 40 odd mg an hour ago and don't feel mad good efffects..... just redosed another 50mg;)
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It's probably because you're generally tolerant to trips. 90mg should have you faced.
 
anima said:
May some 4-HO-MET experienced out there post their subjective dosage recommendations in a erowid-like style?
I'm quite experienced with psychedelics myself, but hasn't had any trials with this compound ...
Because of this thread beeing that big and dandy I just skimed the pages and read about dosing similar to psilocybin/10-15mg beeing a common dose/20mg is quite a strong experience/asf ...
Nevertheless I'd be delighted to have a thorough overview starting with threshold doses and closing with the highest dose the one that's refering has ever done.
I'm sure there are some 4-HO-MET veterans in this community whose experiences can offer me, what I'm looking for :)
Thx in advance :bow:
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Small dose: 30-40mg*
Medium dose: 40-80mg*
Strong: 80+*
Very strong: Unknown
* These dosages are considerably higher than most people require, do not use this as a guide

-any major dude
 
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^A small dose is far lower than 30-40mg, more like 10-15mg. Please disregard the above advice as Quickslide appears to either be a hardhead or have impure material. He also mentioned that he eyeballs his doses so he really has no idea how much he takes anyway...

best effects with sublingual use imo
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How was the taste? Tolerable?
 
abrad84 said:
^A small dose is far lower than 30-40mg, more like 10-15mg. Please disregard the above advice as Quickslide appears to either be a hardhead or have impure material. He also mentioned that he eyeballs his doses so he really has no idea how much he takes anyway...


How was the taste? Tolerable?
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Lol, I don't eyeball...... I know exactly how much I'm dosing and last time I did 100mg and it was alright. I could handle much more.... where's the ego loss huh?
 
Sorry, I thought you mentioned not using a scales earlier in the thread.

Oh wait, you did...

quickslide said:
omg if im telling you its not its not. For crying out loud im not a baby, I know what im doing. I don't need a freaking 0,001 scale. As a matter of fact, when buying 4-ho-met I wouldn't need a scale at all. I could easily eyeball a dose. And ye i might be 50mg off, but that doesn't matter for me. If I did 50 or 100 or 150 it wouldn't really matter for me.
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^ It appears that Quickslide believes he has a microscopic eye.

Quickslide, please stop pushing your macho ideas on to this forum. This is dangerous, and reckless, and you obviously have no regard for the welfare of those who may - naively - decide to use your misinformation as a guide.
 
abrad84 said:
Sorry, I thought you mentioned not using a scales earlier in the thread.

Oh wait, you did...
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I said I didn't have to use any scale... But I understand it's hard for you to eyeball a dose when you can't even read. I almost always use a scale. Why? Cuz I'm cheap, not cuz I'm afraid to dose too much.
 
Survived Abortion said:
^ It appears that Quickslide believes he has a microscopic eye.

Quickslide, please stop pushing your macho ideas on to this forum. This is dangerous, and reckless, and you obviously have no regard for the welfare of those who may - naively - decide to use your misinformation as a guide.
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lol? A guy asked for SUBJECTIVE dosages. I gave him my range. And I'm far from alone dosing that high.

You want the truth about 4-ho-met?

Small dose: 5-40mg

Medium 15-80mg

High 25-200mg*

That's about as accurate one can be with this substance.

* again, typical doses are much closer to the lower ranges given here, the high doses are roughly 5 times the amount required by most people
-any major dude
 
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^ You shouldn't give him your range, most people get very high from 20 mg.
Imagine that YOU asked a similar question, and someone answered you: "Eat the whole gram".

And I'm far from alone dosing that high.
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Lol, so what? How many people dosing THAT high? 2, maybe 3? Anyway, you aren't majority. And it is better to have underwhelming trip rather than unexpectedly overwhelming.

Also, we all know that you have super-precise eye, and can easily measure any amounts. But most people can't, or sometimes they make mistakes in dosing. So, you shouldn't advise them eyeballing.

Ok, if it all doesn't make sense to you, then just stop talking about measurings? Why? Because Mods told you it is against rules and you will get another warning.
 
allium said:
^ You shouldn't give him your range, most people get very high from 20 mg.
Imagine that YOU asked a similar question, and someone answered you: "Eat the whole gram".


Lol, so what? How many people dosing THAT high? 2, maybe 3? Anyway, you aren't majority. And it is better to have underwhelming trip rather than unexpectedly overwhelming.

Also, we all know that you have super-precise eye, and can easily measure any amounts. But most people can't, or sometimes they make mistakes in dosing. So, you shouldn't advise them eyeballing.

Ok, if it all doesn't make sense to you, then just stop talking about measurings? Why? Because Mods told you it is against rules and you will get another warning.
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Are you some kind of retard? If he asked for our subjective dosages of course I will give him mine. What's your problem? It has nothing to do with majority... lol...

I've read about maybe 5 trip reports on people dosing that high. I could probably find alot more if I just did some easy research... maybe a poll or something. A friend of mine also doses that high.

My girl friend not quite as high but she did do 60... It was almost too heavy for her though. Then I also have friends dosing 25mg and getting a strong trip on that of course.
 
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^ I guess that person, asking for dosages, usually does it not just from pure curiosity.

And I think this guy would like to decide what dose is more appropriate for the first time. Do you understand how it is related to majority?

Also, I tried 4-HO-MET today, ~20 mg. It was very nice trip, no nausea, almost no bodyload, no other side-effects, cool OEVs and CEVs, nice headspace. I liked it and I only would like it to be more "mindfuckey". But maybe it is a matter of dose. :)

So, is there any qualitative differences between 20 mg, 30 mg and 40 mg trips?
 
I have a mix of:

15 mg 4-AcO-DMT

and

15 mg 4-HO-MET

....

How far down do you think this will take me? Im thinking +3, maybe approaching +4, but with no chance at ego death....

Anyone mixed these two in any amounts? Did they synergize? Was it better than 30 mg of either substance alone?
 
I found that combination very unpleasant. They seemed to cancel each other out and left with a horrible bodyload and anxiety for 6hrs with no psychedelic effect at all.
 
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