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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread

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If its the first time your trying this substance 25-30mgs should be a fair dose. Happy trippin!
 
Metocin compliments 2Ce well. Very dissociating. In regards to synergy 4-ho compounds take on unique characteristics when combined with two or more. Metocin and Mipracetin is my next to experiment with. I expect the mix to be very wacky. Miprocin and cubensis was extraordinary. I have a feeling 10mg of Metocin, 10mg of Psilacetin, and 10mg of Mipracetin will be a very special combo. Each taken in that order 45min apart from eachother.
 
If its similar dosing too 4-ACO-DMT, i'll stick too 50mg, the first trip with a new product is very important to me....

What a beast! I did 20mg of 4-ho-met thinking it would be pretty..average. Boy was I wrong, that dose definitely rocked my world. One of the few times I've considered taking a xanax to help calm things down.

You're gonna have fuuuuuun :)
 
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Really? What a pity!
How quickly will it degrade if kept from light and air at room temperature?
 
May some 4-HO-MET experienced out there post their subjective dosage recommendations in a erowid-like style?
I'm quite experienced with psychedelics myself, but hasn't had any trials with this compound ...
Because of this thread beeing that big and dandy I just skimed the pages and read about dosing similar to psilocybin/10-15mg beeing a common dose/20mg is quite a strong experience/asf ...
Nevertheless I'd be delighted to have a thorough overview starting with threshold doses and closing with the highest dose the one that's refering has ever done.
I'm sure there are some 4-HO-MET veterans in this community whose experiences can offer me, what I'm looking for :)
Thx in advance :bow:
 
I hope to receive 250 mg of this chemical very soon.
Assuming that I will get correct amount, how can I measure, say, 1/5 of this amount without using scales?

I know, I should buy scales, and I am going to do this in the near future, but now I don't have them. Currently I tripped on 2Cs, which are stable in solution, so liquid measuring is alright.

I have the following idea of measuring: put all powder on the paper, then accurately make a rectangle from this powder(which is actually is parallelepiped). Then measure with the ruler 1/5 of this parallelepiped. And finally prepare solution, and use liquid measuring to get my dose.

I understand that powder can have uneven density, etc. But how precise could this method be?
 
I hope to receive 250 mg of this chemical very soon.
Assuming that I will get correct amount, how can I measure, say, 1/5 of this amount without using scales?

First off, you can't assume you got the correct amount without any way to verify it. And secondly, its impossible to measure weight without scales.

I have the following idea of measuring: put all powder on the paper, then accurately make a rectangle from this powder(which is actually is parallelepiped). Then measure with the ruler 1/5 of this parallelepiped. And finally prepare solution, and use liquid measuring to get my dose.

I understand that powder can have uneven density, etc. But how precise could this method be?

Jesus titty-fucking christ.... get scales. Seriously, that so much more difficult, time consuming, and inaccurate than even a $20 set of mg scales. And in case anyone missed my post on the last page, ANYONE SUGGESTING EYEBALLING DOSES GETS INFRACTED
 
I hope to receive 250 mg of this chemical very soon.
Assuming that I will get correct amount, how can I measure, say, 1/5 of this amount without using scales?

First off, you can't assume you got the correct amount without any way to verify it. And secondly, its impossible to measure weight without scales.

I have the following idea of measuring: put all powder on the paper, then accurately make a rectangle from this powder(which is actually is parallelepiped). Then measure with the ruler 1/5 of this parallelepiped. And finally prepare solution, and use liquid measuring to get my dose.

I understand that powder can have uneven density, etc. But how precise could this method be?

Jesus titty-fucking christ.... get scales. Seriously, thats so much more difficult, time consuming, and inaccurate than even a $20 set of mg scales. And in case anyone missed my post on the last page, ANYONE SUGGESTING EYEBALLING DOSES GETS INFRACTED
 
I didn't advocate eyeballing, I was asking how to do it as much safely as possible. Also, I just replied to your PM.
 
PM'd you back. And sorry if my last post seemed harsh, but no matter which way you do it, eyeballing is always taking a random amount of powder, so there aren't really varying degrees of safety with it. Of course taking a small amount is better than just sticking your tongue in the bag, but honestly you shouldn't do either.
 
Ok, thank you. I PM'd you again, with few questions, I hope I don't bother you...

I found shops in my country that sell scales which don't cost thousands of dollars, so I am going to buy one.:)
 
I received 500mg in early november. It's gone now. This is a truly magical substance, especially at higher doses. The most memorable trip was on around 60mg (with tolerance). I went outside to smoke a cigarette and when i walked in I just stood in the center of my living room. All in feat. Big B off of Dirtball's Crook County album was playing on my laptop. Time became of no relevance. It felt as if every interaction, event, and experience in my life came down to this single moment. THe entire room was rippling, hard. It was a truly enlightening experience, one that I will surely remember the rest of my life, possible being one among thousands of trips come the day i die.

As far as what i learned about the substance, tolerance is strong and diminishes fast. 48 hours between trips requires approx. double the dose. 72 hours maybe 50%, 96 hours maybe 20%, with tolerance being hard to distinguish past five days. I'd say anything over 40mg without a tolerance will have diminishing returns. Keep in mind this is the fumarate, not HCL. The HCL variant requires approximately 3/4 the dose. For a first timer that wants a memorable trip and who is experienced with psychedelics, I would suggest somewhere around 35mg fumarate for a balls to the wall trip. Maybe a little more if you are as crazy as me.

In my opinion this chemical beats psilocybin. The only other tryptamine I have tried is 4-aco-mipt and IMO there is no comparison in all aspects.

I've been using a gemini-20 scale that is under 40 dollars and am more than pleased with it.

I would also like to add that this substance seems to have an "energy" that goes with it. I don't think synergy is the right word. It almost felt as if i was facing a strong wind. But there was no wind obviously. The closest thing I can compare the visuals to is what a flag does in the wind.

I also prefer to take this substance alone. Combined with 2c-e is nice, but I feel 4-aco-mipt takes away from the experience. Mushrooms would be interesting, very interesting...

Weed is good as always, but try to keep it to a minimum.


This is hands down my favorite psychedelic.
 
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