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The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Three

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I find this on erowid in the side effects profile of 4-aco-dmt:

(severe) uncomfortable stimulation (mental and physical)
sleeplessness
(significantly) elevated heart rate

Severe stimulation? significantly elevated heart rate? I think that erowid showed this because the information that they obtain I think that come from trip reports. TRUSTED or confirmed 4-aco-dmt can have this physical effects? If I pick on erowid the side effects profile of mushrooms do not show any like this.
 
(severe) uncomfortable stimulation (mental and physical)

It can definitely have that one for sure, particularly on the comedown for me that's quite common, especially with higher doses. I find myself unable to stop gurning and rolling my whole body around constantly, and my thoughts race at the speed of light. For that reason sleep is pretty much impossible until I'm completely baseline after 4-AcO-DMT.

During one time when I took a very large dose of 4-AcO-DMT I was told my heart rate was rather high, though I've never once measured it myself so couldn't answer that one, but most psychedelics tend to elevate the heart rate at least somewhat when a regular dose is taken, so it's not an outlandish claim at all.
 
just got 500mg in the mail today

cant wait to give some away to close friends and other good peoples

Haha i actually got some on the mail 2 days ago. Tested it out today.
this stuff is killer!!! i snorted ~26 mg. pretty big mind fuck, so be ready.
 
Seems like 4-aco-dmt is more dangerous than mushrooms :S

I wasn't suggesting it was dangerous, just uncomfortable at times. While my heart rate was elevated, it reaches a far higher level on most stimulants, even at lower doses - and this was a particularly high dose of 4-AcO-DMT, around 75mg.
 
I'm again finding myself in the situation of thinking if I even need more than 4-AcO-DMT. Ever.

It encompasses everything I have found in all other psychedelics combined and so much more. The bliss, the serenity, it is the most beautiful and awe-inspiring experience in this world. There's depth, joy, introspection, spiritual life-changing experiences. While I enjoy other psychedelics there is none that can rival 4-AcO-DMT and that's because it aims directly at your heart - you can not but embrace it. The euphoria is better than any combination I'ver tried (and there are many), everything feels so pure. It's the best ever for me. It's probably due to its sedative effects (heavy for me) that it produces such an intense feeling of inner peace, of glowing warmth (I've never done opiates but can relate to them), of belonging and arriving from whenever you come. In higher doses it's almost like a low dose DMT experience with entity contact and highly mystical, almost ineffable, experiences.

Also I have different experiences than Jesusgreen regarding heart rate. Even at abnormally high doses my heart rate and blood pressure never increases noticeably on this compound. One of the reasons I love this stuff is the bodyload and increase in heart rate is next to zero.
 
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When I on 4-aco-dmt I feel poisoned, like little fever, unpleasent feeling in my chest and abdomen. But I use 5-meo-dmt, DPT, 4-ho-met or 2c-e I feel normal. Is it ok for 4-aco-dmt or this is impure bath? Any suggestions? (english is not my first language, sorry)
 
When I on 4-aco-dmt I feel poisoned, like little fever, unpleasent feeling in my chest and abdomen. But I use 5-meo-dmt, DPT, 4-ho-met or 2c-e I feel normal. Is it ok for 4-aco-dmt or this is impure bath? Any suggestions? (english is not my first language, sorry)

We can't tell you what the purity of your 4-AcO-DMT is based on your experiences from it. If you're in any doubts about the quality, I'd avoid consuming any more and send some off to ecstasydata.org for testing to ensure that it is just 4-AcO-DMT and doesn't contain anything dangerous.

Most likely though, you're just experiencing somewhat of a bodyload. I get this too with 4-AcO-DMT, and find it's worsened by eating shortly before I dose. Try fasting for a few hours before you dose, and eating very healthily the days leading up to your trip.
 
When I on 4-aco-dmt I feel poisoned, like little fever, unpleasent feeling in my chest and abdomen. But I use 5-meo-dmt, DPT, 4-ho-met or 2c-e I feel normal. Is it ok for 4-aco-dmt or this is impure bath? Any suggestions? (english is not my first language, sorry)

I don't think your batch is impure. I have also compared the come-up to being sick-- uncontrollable shivering/chills, sometimes nausea, often general feeling of crappiness. Like Jesusgreen said, I'd have to say it's probably just the bodyload. Have you tried smoking before taking it? That usually quells most of the bad side effects for me.
 
Have tried 4-aco dmt twice. Orally and snorted. How do you smoke it -as some here have recommended- and at which point during the trip? Found it interesting that effects differ.
 
I'm again finding myself in the situation of thinking if I even need more than 4-AcO-DMT. Ever.

It encompasses everything I have found in all other psychedelics combined and so much more. The bliss, the serenity, it is the most beautiful and awe-inspiring experience in this world. There's depth, joy, introspection, spiritual life-changing experiences. While I enjoy other psychedelics there is none that can rival 4-AcO-DMT and that's because it aims directly at your heart - you can not but embrace it. The euphoria is better than any combination I'ver tried (and there are many), everything feels so pure. It's the best ever for me. It's probably due to its sedative effects (heavy for me) that it produces such an intense feeling of inner peace, of glowing warmth (I've never done opiates but can relate to them), of belonging and arriving from whenever you come. In higher doses it's almost like a low dose DMT experience with entity contact and highly mystical, almost ineffable, experiences.

Also I have different experiences than Jesusgreen regarding heart rate. Even at abnormally high doses my heart rate and blood pressure never increases noticeably on this compound. One of the reasons I love this stuff is the bodyload and increase in heart rate is next to zero.

Absolutely agree. SWIM had two experiences with 4-Aco-DMT in the last month and both were literally life changing. SWIM actually wrote down his thoughts during his 2nd trip, which he reads every day for motivation. The beauty and serenity this substance provides is beyond words, it's like going directly into the center where EVERYTHING is peace, and you know it.
 
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I just took 15mg of this stuff. I'm starting to come up but i'm feeling a bodyload that I haven't felt before with this substance. Will it go away or is there something I can take to get rid of it?
 
I just took 15mg of this stuff. I'm starting to come up but i'm feeling a bodyload that I haven't felt before with this substance. Will it go away or is there something I can take to get rid of it?

breath deep and do stretches.

ginger root or ginger tea can help the stomach

smoking ganja helps all things be praiseful.
 
OK I just have to ask this: Has anyone else ever hallucinated music on a 4-tryptamine? I wish I could remember it; sounded dark and alien but so real and intricate.

My girlfriend hallucinated music on 4-AcO-DMT on two separate occasions, once on ~20mg and once on ~15mg. Both times it happened when I was turning on some music, and she says, "Wait, there hasn't been music playing this whole time?" I then asked her, both times, "What did it sound like?" And she had no idea. Later on she recalled that it maybe sounded "chill, melodic...classical? Or like jazzy trance."
 
I just took 15mg of this stuff. I'm starting to come up but i'm feeling a bodyload that I haven't felt before with this substance. Will it go away or is there something I can take to get rid of it?

What kind of bodyload? Is it a different batch than before? Maybe some impurities?
 
My girlfriend hallucinated music on 4-AcO-DMT on two separate occasions, once on ~20mg and once on ~15mg. Both times it happened when I was turning on some music, and she says, "Wait, there hasn't been music playing this whole time?" I then asked her, both times, "What did it sound like?" And she had no idea. Later on she recalled that it maybe sounded "chill, melodic...classical? Or like jazzy trance."

dudeeee i've heard music or at least the manipulation of my hearing from almost every psychedelic and it's often in just really interesting and unpredictable key and melody changes. The times that i've been able to find out what chords they were they've actually been really basic chord progressions though. (Cmajor Fmajor Gmajor Cmajor)<-- extremely basic

At the PMoA there is an exhibit starting where a scanner reads the electrical signal and frequencies given off by plants and synthesized them into hearable sound waves and they were a complex arpeggio(notes of a chord separated into a rhythmic sequence) that reminded me A LOT of Post Rock and music i've heard whilst tripping.
 
Got 100mg from a friend, was planning on starting with 25mg. Accidentally weighed out 30mg and just went with it. RoA: intranasal.

There's a noticeable burn, but not unbearable by any means. Barely got any drip so I'm assuming it gets absorbed very well.

There was an uncomfortable amount of nausea throughout most of the experience (I had just eaten a very bad lunch/breakfast). I always get the feeling that if I just forced myself to purge and get it over with, then I would enjoy the trip more but I absolutely hate vomiting and I'm borderline anorexic so I just dealt with it.

I've only taken mushrooms once before, but have done acid many times, as well as almost every 2c-x.

The visuals were stunning. I usually don't focus on CEVs but I found myself with me eyes half open and the blending of CEVs and OEVs was amazing.
Music was also incredible, obviously.

Overall it put me in a very very good state of mind, especially considering my previous night (heroin, 30mg of valium, MXE and a lil birt of verdka).

Can't say enough good things about this drug. I'm excited to explore different doses.
 
just got back from a music and arts festivial

added MXE to the aco, was quite enjoyable

gave away a decent amount to people at the festival (friends, people i just met, vendors)

ill echo the previous poster in saying i cant say enough good things about this drug
 
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