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The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Four

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I took a 30mg capsule of 4-aco-dmt the first time.

After 1 hour all trees and plants looked like they were on steroids. Every branche of it looked so streched outwards. And the steady-cam of my eyes looked like it was disabled. I received so much information, if I was receiving a double amount of views per second.

It did hold on for 1 hour and then it got more visual. I was looking at the clear blue sky and suddenly I saw myself. I started tripping,... seeing so many eyes. Not just eyes in objects, but just clear eyes. I didn't count, but like 50 eyes during my trip. Very beautiful closed eye visuals, unbelievable.

Does anybody recognize this?
 
Yes, that sounds pretty typical of a higher-dose 4-AcO trip :') 30mg is usually when it starts to err on too intense for me, I really enjoy 25mg though.
 
Fuuu, I read this thread just as an update today, and now I'm all nostalgic and gotta get some bahahah.
 
I wanna buy some more but my vendor is so damn pricy, I think I may bite the bullet though, it's been awhile.
I need to pick myself up a milligram scale sooo bad
Titrating up with nasal dosing is annoying, plus it burns and tastes horrible haha
 
I wanna buy some more but my vendor is so damn pricy, I think I may bite the bullet though, it's been awhile.
I need to pick myself up a milligram scale sooo bad
Titrating up with nasal dosing is annoying, plus it burns and tastes horrible haha
If I were you I would just eat it instead of titrating it with insufflation. It's much more powerful eaten.
 
You can eyeball 4-aco-dmt with experience like many, 100mg into 5 piles easily enough if you've a bit of experience with psychedelics/4-aco-dmt, expect to maybe be slightly overwhelmbed but it wont be anything too much and it's all part of the fun. :)

Sniffing is fine too, comeup is about 30mins with early presence, more intense comeup but smooths out quicker with a faster onset. Ideal for afternoon/evening trip with plans next day.
 
I took a 30mg capsule of 4-aco-dmt the first time.

After 1 hour all trees and plants looked like they were on steroids. Every branche of it looked so streched outwards. And the steady-cam of my eyes looked like it was disabled. I received so much information, if I was receiving a double amount of views per second.

It did hold on for 1 hour and then it got more visual. I was looking at the clear blue sky and suddenly I saw myself. I started tripping,... seeing so many eyes. Not just eyes in objects, but just clear eyes. I didn't count, but like 50 eyes during my trip. Very beautiful closed eye visuals, unbelievable.

Does anybody recognize this?

I don't see eyes but i do tend to notice lots of strange faces on stuff with patterns, photos of deep space really creep me out, i always see lots of really weird old men's faces and other strange beings :?

One time i looked at myself in the mirror just before going to lie down in the dark and remember seeing hundred's of my own faces in the cev's i had.
 
You can eyeball 4-aco-dmt with experience like many, 100mg into 5 piles easily enough if you've a bit of experience with psychedelics/4-aco-dmt, expect to maybe be slightly overwhelmbed but it wont be anything too much and it's all part of the fun. :)

Sniffing is fine too, comeup is about 30mins with early presence, more intense comeup but smooths out quicker with a faster onset. Ideal for afternoon/evening trip with plans next day.
How many hours before u are back to base and can sleep with sniffing?
 
I struggle to sleep without benzos/weed anyway so I can't honestly be much help here, I'll do it tonight probably before 12 and hopefully get sleep before 7 but may involve benzos. I would say duration is 1-2 hours less than eating, keeping in mind there is a long but does arrive quick slow descent after the peak.
 
I wanna buy some more but my vendor is so damn pricy, I think I may bite the bullet though, it's been awhile.
I need to pick myself up a milligram scale sooo bad
Titrating up with nasal dosing is annoying, plus it burns and tastes horrible haha

I would just get a cheap ass twenty-thirty dollar .00 scale, some capsules, fresh batteries, mini flat head screw driver and a calibrating weight. Say if your capsules weigh .04, then .06 is damn close to 20mgs. If you weigh out 100mgs(.10) and dose 5 capsules out of it then each should be very close to 20mgs. I have been using this method with Acetylpsilocin, Metocin and 2c-e/i for years now. I know i know i need a .000 but this has worked just fine until i save the money for my dream .000 scale. If you do get a .00 do make sure it is calibrated and has good batteries before weighing potent powders of course and weigh the capsules multiple times just to make sure. (i know with DOx's, 2cp, nbomes stuff really potent this is unacceptable unless your weighing a large amount for liquid measurements)

I also prefer eating the stuff or throwing it under my tongue, beside IV its the best roa i have experienced so far for me.(plugged/sniffed/oral/sub/IV) 30-40mgs oral/sub is my sweet spot for the fumarate, not to overwhelming but not underwhelming mentally/visually.
 
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I took a 30mg capsule of 4-aco-dmt the first time.

It did hold on for 1 hour and then it got more visual. I was looking at the clear blue sky and suddenly I saw myself. I started tripping,... seeing so many eyes. Not just eyes in objects, but just clear eyes. I didn't count, but like 50 eyes during my trip. Very beautiful closed eye visuals, unbelievable.

Does anybody recognize this?

You've mentioned a lot of similarity with what I've experienced. I get alerts, mild body rushes, slight colour shifting, and at ~ the one hour mark, the visuals pick up in intensity. And definitely the closed eye visuals are beautiful.

I've noticed that this drug is quite linear with regard to dose/response (ok, at least from my perspective). I've tried it nine times now in varying amounts, and have detailed trip reports on all. The time that a dose lasts seems strongly coorelated (actually went to the trouble of plotting trip length .vs. dose). Though every time I've tried this compound, it has been with a 20+ hour fast, so I'm controlling it fairly tightly.

Pretty stable too, especially if you store it in the absence of heat, light, moisture and oxygen.

Tom
 
Yeah I have my fumerate stored in vodka with an anti-oxidant (err, my scale is a goner) and it hasn't discolored yet after 2 months or so. As long as you keep it hidden from the elements, it seems to do fine. Not sure how long it will last, but when I put it in there I didn't have much left, so it doesn't really matter

Really do need a new mg scale though..
 
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Yeah I have my fumerate stored in vodka with an anti-oxidant (err, my scale is a goner) and it hasn't discolored yet after 2 months or so. As long as you keep it hidden from the elements, it seems to do fine. Not sure how long it will last, but when I put it in there I didn't have much left, so it doesn't really matter

Really do need a new mg scale though..

What did you use as an antioxidant? I've got access to pure Scorbic acid.

Thanks

Tom
 
Yeah I use Ascorbic Acid if that's what you mean :D It's a Vitamin C pill rather, so there's a bit of binder floating around in the solution. One has got to get ghetto sometimes.. And, now I went back through some correspondence, this was in solution since ~May. So it's been much longer in solution than just 2 months

Taking mine out of the freezer just so I could take a look, because I haven't seen it in a while now actually. I'll update my post in about half an hour

EDIT: Nope, no discoloration. Just a slight one I noted after the first week or so, but seemingly it didn't get worse. Do note that the combination of Ascorbic Acid, Vodka and a Tryptamine reeks of, well, I would say death but that just doesn't cover the load
 
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18 mg fumarate orally indoors at night produced strong and unpleasant comeup nausea which I drowned out with 50 mg dimenhydrinate (Dramamine original formula). Was pleasant thereafter, giggliness that eventually turned into sobbing, and back and forth. Felt a sort of restless hot legs the entire experience, enjoyed talking shit with my companion. Visuals seemed to center around light sources and could come and go. Noticeably less "headspace" than psilocybin. Enjoyed eating a lot toward the end, and fell asleep after about 6 hours with CEVs playing quietly in my mind. There was a weird not entirely pleasant jitteriness in the second half of the experience.
 
I got the chance to combo 40mgs of Actylpsilocin F. with 12mgs of 2c-e last night. Had a terrific intense night, love the the euphoria and giggles/excitement i was getting off the combo, i felt very alive. Excellent OEV's and CEV's to, patterns on the ceiling would turn to multiple print, faces, skulls, flowers, suns, etc it was awesome. Very long lasting though, i would do the combo again maybe with more 2c-e though. I do have a nice after glow from it all which is nice.
 
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