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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

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Sourtulip said:
Which leaves me with the question, is 3-MeO-PCP (or NMDA antagonists in general?) considered to be vasodilators?
A google search didn't answer my question as there's so little info on these novel analogues so I tried Ketamine instead which only made matters worse as I could find some info pointing towards it being a vasodilator but also some saying it had vasoconstricting properties.

What have you guys noticed regarding vasodilation or constriction with this gem?
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Pubmed says PCP is a vasoconstrictor.
 
I'm not a fan of this chemical! It feels so cheap! (And it is cheap)
 
This one snuck on me. Not sure if it was the meal or what. I tried taking ~3mg buccally, then at 1 hour I was feeling light effects, not much dissociation, definite numb body high that I've felt from MXE before. Then at 2 hours it seems the peak came where every effect got increased, yet it's still very mentally clear unlike MXE. (Though this is only 3mg).
I'll probably wait at least a week then try it again.
Edit: pretty surprising how strong it feels on the body. And that was only 5mg at the most, but more like 3-4mg.
 
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I found that combining 9mg 3-MeO-PcP (volumetric dosing) with LSD just made the trip much foggier, muddier, mentally and visually, even CEVs were blurred. Would not combine again. Maybe some hypomania but since I'm boring it just led to taking out a guitar I never learned how to play and just tuning it and fucking around a bit.

I have been intrigued with this one on its own, still not decided if I really like it or not. The first week I dosed 3 days in a row, less than 10 mg total each day. I don't care much for the peak effects but the slight hypomanic afterglow was awesome! Still, my sample is probably going to last a good long while. I read all the B&D's before even ordering it, so I know to treat it with respect.
 
^ probably because the intense dissociation plus mania and the other odd effects of 3-meO are basically too jarring to the brain. Plus many many drugs, if taken in doses high above the norm for good effect, will lead to an overall shitty/toxic/disorienting/confusing/unpleasant state of being. I reccomend : take less. Problem solved. -_-
 
This is a wonderful chemical but it must be used appropriately IMO. I'd honestly say once a month. You will only get negative effects if you this regular. Please be careful with this guys, I've took this substance for a couple of years and it has bit me on several occasions due to abuse. Thinking to much about things when your brain just needs a rest can take its toll.
 
red22 said:
Don't see how people are calling this a wonderful chemical; it has such a cheap feel to it. Wouldn't Ketamine or Ephenidine be far superior?
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It all depends on what type of experience you're looking for. If you're taking these drugs in order to reach a hole type experience when Ketamine is definately the better choice. I haven't tried Ephenidine but going by what others have described, it's sounds far more suited for holing than 3-MeO-PCP does.

3-MeO-PCP beats Ketamine big time (imo) when used in other ways though. I've found it to be brilliant as an aid in meditation, even at very small dosages like 3-4 mg oral. The anti-depressive effects are longer lasting too (compared to Ketamine) and as others before me has pointed out, it feels awesome to dance while on it. I also like to go for a walk on it, makes for some interesting alone time with ones mind - something that I wouldn't even contemplate doing after ingesting K.

So it all depends on what type of experience you're looking for. So far, I like this compound every bit as much as I like K - and I like K a lot!
 
treezy z said:
Am I correct in reading this will make you go nuts more than other dissociatives?

I started smoking dust daily shortly after high school and had the time of my life. I was loved, hated and feared, being a loose cannon can be an asset in certain walks of life. Never worked, always left the apartment with a band or two. Unfortunately I got committed to forensic institution getting tied down to beds and shit at 20 for a couple years.

I've got 3-meo available. So this is that shit that gets you a support role in Cops as a naked dude punching holes in wall?

I've done a number of dissociatives, PCP was the only one that made me go nuts, I though God sent me to announce that judgement day was imminent. Whatever silly impulse popped in my head was acted on.

So ya, 3-meo is on Dust type insanity? Cuz I'm 29 and live a decent life, I spent age 20 in restraints would hate doing it again
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Aren't you the guy who pulled a knife on your mother after taking Methoxphenidine or something? If yes, I'd say it's a stretch that PCP is the only one that made you "go nuts", to be honest.

If I am mistaken, I'm sorry.
 
red22 said:
Don't see how people are calling this a wonderful chemical; it has such a cheap feel to it. Wouldn't ketamine or ephenidine be far superior?
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I prefer MXE and 3-MeO-PCP any day over ketamine. Get the dose right with 3-MeO-PCP, relax with some ambient music and the world seems a nice place.

I also taking a dose and going a long country walk with this. It's just so peaceful and tranquil.

Another way I use this substance is read sci fi book about space. You really get a sense of how insignificant we are in the universe and it adds to the experience.

Last way I enjoy is a tiny bit gives me a stimulant effect, gives me a kick up the arse to say "c'mon, let's get these chores done.

High repeated doses have gave me severe amnesia where it got to the stage a friend had to film me because I didn't believe what he was saying next day. Scared the shit out of me.

I'll repeat this once again, be very careful with this substance. It is so powerful.

FYI I always put it up my nose.

Last rant....I fucking miss you MXE X
 
I feel you there pb109, it seems all of us who have reached their highest spiritual peaks by way of MXE have been searching far and wide since then for other ways to get there when we need a good slap in the face to wake us up to the pure light of the highest power, but 3meo does get us a certain degree closer depending on the variables of set and setting. Sometimes it has gotten me very high on the graph of spiritual attunement, but in a different way than MXE did. 3meo helps us see the signs in an outward sense whereas MXE was better at helping us see the signs in an inward sense, at least that's my experience for the most part, but I am also not discounting 3meo's potential to see the inner light, because it very much has helped me during points of meditation.
 
vortech said:
I feel you there pb109, it seems all of us who have reached their highest spiritual peaks by way of MXE have been searching far and wide since then for other ways to get there when we need a good slap in the face to wake us up to the pure light of the highest power, but 3meo does get us a certain degree closer depending on the variables of set and setting. Sometimes it has gotten me very high on the graph of spiritual attunement, but in a different way than MXE did. 3meo helps us see the signs in an outward sense whereas MXE was better at helping us see the signs in an inward sense, at least that's my experience for the most part, but I am also not discounting 3meo's potential to see the inner light, because it very much has helped me during points of meditation.
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MXE has to be my fav drug ever....I'd choose her over my wife (I ain't kidding).
 
vortech said:
I feel you there pb109, it seems all of us who have reached their highest spiritual peaks by way of MXE have been searching far and wide since then for other ways to get there when we need a good slap in the face to wake us up to the pure light of the highest power, but 3meo does get us a certain degree closer depending on the variables of set and setting. Sometimes it has gotten me very high on the graph of spiritual attunement, but in a different way than MXE did. 3meo helps us see the signs in an outward sense whereas MXE was better at helping us see the signs in an inward sense, at least that's my experience for the most part, but I am also not discounting 3meo's potential to see the inner light, because it very much has helped me during points of meditation.
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I truly miss the insanity of the hole with MXE. It could be scary, but my god it was fun.

My ritual with it was to large lines then lie on my bed, pitch black, shut eyes and not a sound...the next thing you knew was that you're were on a conveyor belt. Brace yourself id tell myself. Miss those days

With 3 it's just not going to happen like that but I still appreciate it.
 
Just dropped in to say I totally agree.

It would have been nice if I had known that this was not merely a one night fling, but an enduring relationship, then I would have arranged for a "before" and "after", AKA then and now.

But I am a unique and ancient creature. I seek a solution that solves all my needs and desires.

Hmmmm, there is a book-slinging brain doc in Fla who is big on nutrition and supplements for mental optimization. I'm open to sharing with him as a test subject to get all the latest imaging and diagnostic tests for free in return for my help as co-author.
(Perlmutter)

Shout out to all the participants in this thread, MXE refugees, as well as Meowfish, Confield, pharmakos et al, who are keeping it real with 3-meO-PCP.

I'm still on my 7 to 8 day dosing schedule, just descending from a 18mg oral excursion. In today's experience report, at T-7:00 this stuff flatlined my Muse headset using an extended session of energizing pranayama. After which I immediately went into the kitchen and prepared a most delicious shrimp stir fry for me and my most beautiful yet unbeknownst "sitter." After which I embarked on an evening of study, writing, entertainment and a few hits of cannabis.

This substance, in addition to consistent anxylotic effects and days-after placidity, allows the creative juices to flow like mercury. Ironic, since in most sublime moments 3-meO is smooth and metallic in my mind.

Until next time, stay happy, free, and unafraid with (fill in the blank).

Madrus said:
Should've gotten an fMRI before and compare it to now. See if any significant structural changes have occurred.
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I really like 3-meo-pcp.

Yesterday I was visiting a good friend of mine, then i walked home afternoon. I bumbed 6-10mg on my way home, after 15-20 minutes I started feeling the effects. Calmness and a joker smile. It was dark and I enjoyed the big city lights all around me.

When I got home i made some nice and easy food for me and my roomie. 1 hour after the 3-meo-pcp bumb and the food, i took down my "box of doom" and find some DPT. I insuflated 150mg DPT. 30-40 minutes after my room and all my plants around me got so sacred like I have never seen it before. The nice and cold tryptamine feeling, rushed up my spine and everything around me breathed. Orange, green, blue, red symmetric visuals danced around me, and did whatever i thought about. My roomie looked and me and laughed pleasent and said "How are you Mr. Salmon?" - "I really dont know what to say Seb hehe".

The combination of 3-meo-pcp and DPT was really something special and a little bit weird in the same time. This was actually one of the best psychedelic journeys i ever have been on.
 
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