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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover

For those who have tried, how does this combo with AL-LAD or ALD-52?
Magically with ETH-LAD, LSD or ALD-52. AL-LAD never tried, but 25 blotters are coming soon, so I'll probably try it before the years end, and in combination with 3meo of course (Since I discovered the combo of tryptamines and lysergamides with long lasting dissos this year, I don't do psychedelics without adding dissos anymore)

Both on low and higher doses, but bear in mind I'm a hardhead and have got permatolerance with dissos in general, really used to the feeling of beeing dissociated 24/7. I like either to take the 3-meo first and experience it on its own and add a few hours later the lysergamide, or take them both at same time, as the onset and duration are very similar. Always oral, I only like the snorted route for a stimulant-like experience, like FuckinAcidMan described pretty well before.
 
Thanks MSK, I was kinda hoping for your input since I remember your post about only wanting 3-meo plus lysergamides anymore haha. I've been pondering this one. Haven't tried ALD on it's own yet, but this combo is so tempting....had plenty of LSD in my time though. So I'm sure nothing unexpected, just seen ALD's potency is pretty intense at 125ug
 
Yea 125ug of ALD-52 on it's own was a great experience for me, just the right strength.

3-MeO-PCP definitely adds to the experience. Priming with 3-MeO and then taking 14mg of 2C-B led to a totally cosmic psychedelic place that I'd never been with 2C-B before. Xorkoth mentioned in the past few weeks doing I wanna say half a tab of ALD-52 on 3-MeO-PCP and having a strong reaction. It's definitely a good and strong combo.
 
2C-X are lovely with 3meo as well, I forgot I had taken 2C-B and 2C-I with great success while on 3meo, thanks for remembering psy997 :)

It for sure elevates the psychedelic experience to the sky, and at the same time the 3meo adds that dissociative attitude and relaxed feeling of "I don't give a fuck" where is nearly imposible to have a bad trip, or to care about having one at least hehe. Also, as the 3meo is not as physically and mentally impairing as other dissociatives tend to be, I don't get confused at all and can remember all the experience afterwards, unlike ketamine.

I love both lysergamides and 3-MeO-PCP because of the hypomania and euphoria they produce on me, and they go so well together!

Also, talking about the visual aspect of the combo, it's insane. I should have eaten more than 500 blotters of LSD on my life, but never managed to have OEV even on 5 blotters of the stuff, until I took 3 and 15mg of 3-MeO-PCP. Will always remember that day, everything had an aura, all my room started to move, letters melting down on the computer before I could read them... What anybody that hasn't tried any psychedelic thinks the psychedelic experience is like ;)
 
For those who have tried, how does this combo with AL-LAD or ALD-52?

The combo with ALD-52 is really intense and synergistic, I took a half tab (~65ug, maybe more) on top of 3-MeO and tripped hard, ended up quitting all nicotine products (from being a daily dipper/near-daily smoker) from that night on. I took a whole tab (125ug) another time after that on top of 3-MeO and it's the hardest I've ever tripped on "acid".
 
This batch I have is so much more forgiving on the psyche. If I take too much, as I did just a while ago, I just melt into a puddle of love. The previous, more psychedelic batch, would shred my ego with the winds of a dying sun. I swear there's a yin & yang to 3-meo-pcp batches.
 
Yeah there absolutely is, everyone seems to notice it. When my friend and I got this current batch, we all doubted it was even 3-MeO at first. I certainly don't doubt it now but the difference is extremely obvious. MXE is like that too. I can't say why but it's true.

With other drugs I've had batch differences but it only centered around how strong it was. For example, the first batch of DOC I got was tiny crystals, just like the batch I got my lifetime supply of. It's strong and full-bodied, great stuff. The second batch I got was a flour-like powder, and it required higher doses to achieve the same effects, but the effects were the same. I figure it was just cut a bit or something. But some dissos seem to actually have different effects. The two 3-MeO batches are about equipotent, they just have different characteristics.
 
Yea I've literally had very little mania. Source is very trusted. But like I said I can't compare to other batches, still love it, just doesn't seem like what's been described many times in previous threads. But the potency, and some other effects match up. Very lucid dissociation, along with stimulation (nasally), very pleasant bodyload. I always seem to get a little warmer when I take this
 
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Gotta wonder if it's due to variance in ratios of isomers... it could easily be that one of the optical isomers is very mania-producing and the other is more psychedelic. I wish it was easier to be able to determine these things.

EDIT: Jinx!
 
PCP itself is not chiral as it possesses a symmetrical plane. Same goes for 3-MeO-PCP... I missed this in previous posts but it means no isomers!

I already commented on the possibilities for this strange difference reported, giving my opinion on isomers among other things (although at that time I didn't go which isomers there would actually be if any).

Also, I asked my source about this and he said it was the same batch that I got both the more manic and the less manic stuff from... so go figure.

Some say that stuff like 3-MeO-PCP is primarily an NMDA antagonist and other action should hardly be considered seriously, others suggest it is the explanation for particular effects not seen in others - I'd give diphenidine as an example which is not hypnotic like ketamine and more psychomimetic and amnestic getting you utterly lost... but I don't actually know that diphenidine is all that manic at any reasonable dose.
 
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PCP itself is not chiral as it possesses a symmetrical plane. Same goes for 3-MeO-PCP... I missed this in previous posts but it means no isomers! You kinda need the 2'-oxo for example...

I already commented on the possibilities for this strange difference reported, giving my opinion on isomers among other things (although at that time I didn't go which isomers there would actually be if any).

Also, I asked my source about this and he said it was the same batch that I got both the more manic and the less manic stuff from... so go figure.

Some say that stuff like 3-MeO-PCP is primarily an NMDA antagonist and other action should hardly be considered seriously, others suggest it is the explanation for particular effects not seen in others - I'd give diphenidine as an example which is not hypnotic like ketamine and more psychomimetic and amnestic getting you utterly lost... but I don't actually know that diphenidine is all that manic at any reasonable dose.

I love you. Every post of you fills me with pharmacowisdom :D
 
Also, I asked my source about this and he said it was the same batch that I got both the more manic and the less manic stuff from... so go figure.

i've been wondering for awhile about whether you guys are actually getting different batches. its easy to not recognize tolerance for what it is, and assume that a new batch isn't as good as the old batches. seen it happen many times to many people with many substances.
 
How do you explain the magic coming back with a new batch? Ive gone through 3 grams this year and made a good start on the 4th. I wish lab testing was cheaper. I can get 3 grams or more of this for what it would cost to have a sample tested. That's an easy choice for me.
 
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