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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover

I've been mixing ROAs and really enjoying the effects. I don't really ever do purely oral though, always let it sit under the tongue
 
MSK wasn't trying to step on ya toes, just posted at same time. I'm guilty of eyeballing too ? I know it's against the code, I'm not advocating it. Reliable eyeballing though ?
 
Yeah, oral it is always a stronger drug experience to me, more psychedelic and dissociating, also longer lasting. Sometimes I snort it in low doses (lower than 10 mg) because it will just give me the stimulating side of it, but generally oral works better for me. I've noticed that if I take 5-8 mgs orally and redose the same amount three or four hours latter, when the second dose hits me it becomes similarly stimulating as If I had just snorted it.
 
After weighing my doses many times, I now use a tiny scoop that I know will provide around 2mg if leveled off. Or something if I don't have that scoop handy, I will just get a bit on the end of my car key that I estimate to be around that same amount. Before I started actually dosing it this way, I practiced doing it and weighing it and so I know what it looks like, pretty much. I know that my estimated dosages could be off but I am very experienced with the drug and I take tiny doses at a time so I don't feel irresponsible for doing it. If I am trying to take a larger dose to actually experience it as a dissociative, I will weigh it because I feel it's important to know exactly what you're taking when moving into dose territory.

I certainly strongly recommend anyone who is trying 3-MeO-PCP and/or reading this thread to use a scale because 3-MeO-PCP is very potent, it's not the sort of drug to go taking willy nilly, you need to be very conscious of your dose.
 
Is there like a tripsit type area of blue light where I can go when I may not be feeling so lucid but coherent enough to type some legible sentences?
 
3-meo-pcp (eyeballed, but under 20mg, with tolerance) + 3mg DOC was one of the most all-encompassing trips I've ever had. I think I tried to nap while letting the DOC come up; as I regained some semblance of self, of ego, I was squirming around in my blankets, sort of a sense of birth. I almost wish I had my go-pro set up for amusement purposes, but I'm glad this trip was taken alone because someone else might have been worried by my exaggerated movements. It took some time to remember and realize that I had taken the combo. I was significantly physically impaired, very wobbly, and my visual field was just blasted with psychedelic patterns of color and twisting shapes. A shower helped to ease the transition to a more normal state of trippiness. Actually I think what triggered my switch from a cosmic or even subatomic perspective back to the mundane was an instinctive urge to get to the bathroom before soiling the bed. My memory of this transition is a bit fuzzy. After settling back into reality, although seriously distorted still, I was able to get myself down to my basement man-cave/hippie hole and put on music, a Spotify playlist I created to help myself overcome depression with all kinds of uplifting, inspiring music. As the 3-meo-pcp subsided, I regained functionality and spent much of the morning chatting with friends in a group messenger while watching a Netflix series called Lady Dynamite with Maria Bamford that I find to be hilarious but also uncomfortably relatable. I ended up taking some etizolam to knock myself out later on because I had to work that night. This was by far my best experience with DOC, although I would never consider doing this combo in a social situation. The 3-meo-pcp smoothed out the jitters that I normally get from DOC although I still felt like I couldn't stretch quite enough and there was some low-level energy throughout the entire trip just waiting to be utilized.


On a side note, for those of you who insufflate 3-meo-pcp, has it had a deleterious effect on your nose? If I snort anything it usually goes up my right nostril, but today I put some up my left, and boy did it hit quick and hard. I also often get some small amount of blood from my right nostril when blowing my nose after putting just about anything up there, but lately nothing much after some regular small bumps of 3-meo-pcp and the high is somewhat lesser. I think it might have fucked something up and I should give it a break and just do oral/sublingual.
 
I definitely feel like it's not good for my nostrils, it doesn't burn for long, but it does make my nose run and often makes me sneeze, even 2mg bumps. I have to imagine that it's doing some sort of damage, I'll probably have to start using oral more often. Seems rather caustic, if I hold it in my mouth it feels like it causes a slight burn on my tongue.
 
Xorkoth said:
I definitely feel like it's not good for my nostrils, it doesn't burn for long, but it does make my nose run and often makes me sneeze, even 2mg bumps. I have to imagine that it's doing some sort of damage, I'll probably have to start using oral more often. Seems rather caustic, if I hold it in my mouth it feels like it causes a slight burn on my tongue.
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Exactly this
 
Xorkoth said:
I definitely feel like it's not good for my nostrils, it doesn't burn for long, but it does make my nose run and often makes me sneeze, even 2mg bumps. I have to imagine that it's doing some sort of damage, I'll probably have to start using oral more often. Seems rather caustic, if I hold it in my mouth it feels like it causes a slight burn on my tongue.
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Did you plug it?
 
I have. Its not worth the effort.

I don't feel any burn in the nostrils just an irritation that leads to sneezing and mucous production.
 
I have a friend who seems to like to plug it pretty much exclusively. Personally I have not, probably won't bother trying. Oral is quite good, but I like the stimulation aspect of nasal, and plugging is unlikely to provide that, it should be closer to oral, at least going on how it is for most other drugs.
 
Yea plugging this one is pretty dissociating. There's been a few times it's left me in strong dissociative general what the fuck ness for a couple of hours before dropping back down into the desired manageable effects.
 
On the subject of eyeballing, after 50-100 doses I would say one could be qualified to give a well-enough educated guess (if sober), also because at that point there is likely a tolerance that is forgiving of a few milligrams of deviation. Until you get to that level a proper milligram scale is a must, or at least one of those tiny scoops Xorkoth mentioned.
One the subject of ROA, nasal and oral is all I find worthy, but I agree about what other users are saying about snorting- it can't be used as a primary ROA if you use it more than sparsely because even though I haven't experienced nose bleeds on it, I have 2 friends who said they have, at which point I recommended to stick with oral, and frankly it is a more therapeutic effect overall when taken orally. If you are inclined to hedonism don't even consider insufflation- the quicker onset and ensuing stimulation/mania can easily lead to a 'too much of a good thing' situation. Oral is much less stimulating and more of a full-bodied experience.
 
For sure it's easy to fall into compulsive redosing with snorting, and end in a dark alley. I've got a friend that only uses this ROA and a few times lost the plot because of a dose that wasn't needed at all.

I, myself, when using it snorted, usually redose at least one time, while orally I commit myself to the 8 hours experience without even thinking about a redose. It's more therapeutic for sure, orally I usually end thinking about myself, my future, my present, my past, and addressing some issues, while snorted it's all an hedonistic, creative, social high. That could be of course because of expectations (Taking oral when I want a psychedelic experience, snorting when I want to be more grounded to the floor)
 
BigOlBuddhaBelly said:
For those who have tried, how does this combo with AL-LAD or ALD-52?
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I had a glowing experience combining it with 1P-LSD. I know it's not the same as those but it's certainly similar.

Xorkoth said:
If it's the white fluffy batch, I felt the same way about it, it does seem less mania-producing than the previous batches I've had but as I've used it more I've sort of figured out how to use it and now I really like it, though I do wish I had access to the previous batch as well. I find that it's more setting-dependent than the other batch, but that by repeated dosing of slightly higher amounts over a night, and with sufficient external input (like social activity, or music), I can reach an absolutely hypomanic and magical/sparkly place that has led to some of the most fun nights in memory.
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The batch I have been using is definitely bright white, not sure how fluffy though. I would describe it more as fine. How much do you usually take though? Initial and redose wise? Maybe I just need to find the right amount to take at a time. Otherwise I'm going to slowly keep increasing the amount I ingest from 15mg upwards.
 
I take 2-3mg, then after an hour or 2, 2-3mg more, repeat until I am where I want to be. I don't like getting dissociated from this drug usually and this allows me to get the stimulating, euphoric, loosening, hypomanic effects I desire from it. By the time the night has really gotten going, depending on the frequency of my dosing I will be in one of the most ideal states I can think of for pretty much any activity, immensely social and fearless and full of energy. I use it like a stimulant, and for that purpose I prefer it to any actual stimulant I know of. Over the course of a day/night I'll use 15-20mg I'd say, depending. Sometimes just 5mg even. I rarely dose above ~3mg at a time, every once in a while I want to get dissociated so I do 5mg bumps instead. Any more than that and I find the onset of dissociation uncomfortable and offputting. The same is not true of things like ketamine or MXE, with those I seek the dissociation, just don't care for it much with 3-MeO-PCP.
 
For sure this one is a better stimulant than any real stimulant, at least for me. Having ADHD stimulants only put me in a sober more focused state of mind, but with 3meo I can get the euphoria people talk about with stims, and that I didn't experienced except for smoked cocaine or meth. I've been refering to 3meow as psychedelic cocaine xP
 
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