Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover
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Literally just finally recovered after doing an unknown quantity of 3-Meo whilst blacked out benzos, finally back to reality after about 5 days being off my rocker.Dosing it is the difficult part. I literally haven't been able to speak up until a few days ago.
This stuff is crazy and I don't even remember half of it, I feel like my cognitive faculties were/somewhat still are severely impinged.
I've now addicted to benzos though that I needed to bring me down. Hope my brain recovers, couldn't process concepts for shit today (at uni). I literally can't think.
This stuff is crazy and I don't even remember half of it, I feel like my cognitive faculties were/somewhat still are severely impinged.
I've now addicted to benzos though that I needed to bring me down. Hope my brain recovers, couldn't process concepts for shit today (at uni). I literally can't think.
Bella Figura
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Take a break, your brain will recover. Dosing requires milligram scales, do you have any? If in doubt only do half a pinky's fingernail's worth...
Thanks for the advice. I have a scale but it's a little unreliable due to the inherent 0.001 cheapness. The main issue was that I must have snorted a lot of it and it's still in my system. Aside from my dreams being really fucked up I'm almost back to sanity.
Xorkoth
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Not that I'm aware of.
I was using the white fluff batch I've been talking about all weekend (starting Wednesday actually, but much lower dosing Wed/Thurs), and by about halfway through the weekend I hit an amazing stride. Saturday and Sunday were some of the best days I've had in a long time, it was insane how perfect everything was. I find that once I get a little short-term tolerance from a couple of days of low dosing, I can take higher doses of this batch and reach that hypomanic state after all. Just have to take a different approach with this batch.
Now it's time for a break, I definitely have to recuperate from this, though other drugs were involved too including methylone one night. yesterday I felt pretty bad, also like I was fighting off a cold, but today is a lot better after sleeping for 11 hours and doing nothing to exert myself yesterday.
I was using the white fluff batch I've been talking about all weekend (starting Wednesday actually, but much lower dosing Wed/Thurs), and by about halfway through the weekend I hit an amazing stride. Saturday and Sunday were some of the best days I've had in a long time, it was insane how perfect everything was. I find that once I get a little short-term tolerance from a couple of days of low dosing, I can take higher doses of this batch and reach that hypomanic state after all. Just have to take a different approach with this batch.
Now it's time for a break, I definitely have to recuperate from this, though other drugs were involved too including methylone one night. yesterday I felt pretty bad, also like I was fighting off a cold, but today is a lot better after sleeping for 11 hours and doing nothing to exert myself yesterday.
Literally flushed my 1g/50ml Everclear of 3-meo white fluffy MXEish and JUST IV'D some of the baggie rinse(slowly for fun, I already had played with this)…. And took a dab.
Oh.. I do like this. WTFFFFFFFF I thought it was crap. Is it good though for real? Depends how I feel tomorrow. Apparently I need the other batch then, with some DCK.
I felt bad the day after and had GI issues and all kinds of stuff I thought with my previous experience. Read some stuff in this thread and was like YEAH IT'S BAD AND NASTY….
I hope it's bad… No no I hope it's good… IDK but it's totally different. I do like this but the other stuff felt much better I thought. Hmmmmmm… Gonna have to explore the other dissos too… I would love to take real PCP and end up like Steve-O's "PCP saved my life"
Now I'm mad at 3-meo-pcp. I'm gonna have to hit the freight train one 8(
Oh.. I do like this. WTFFFFFFFF I thought it was crap. Is it good though for real? Depends how I feel tomorrow. Apparently I need the other batch then, with some DCK.
I felt bad the day after and had GI issues and all kinds of stuff I thought with my previous experience. Read some stuff in this thread and was like YEAH IT'S BAD AND NASTY….
I hope it's bad… No no I hope it's good… IDK but it's totally different. I do like this but the other stuff felt much better I thought. Hmmmmmm… Gonna have to explore the other dissos too… I would love to take real PCP and end up like Steve-O's "PCP saved my life"
Now I'm mad at 3-meo-pcp. I'm gonna have to hit the freight train one 8(
Delsyd
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The white sparkly MXEish stuff is not bad. Just different. It's more intoxicating and trippy. I still enjoy it a great deal even tho I prefer the more manic clear headed batch.
I haven't tried IVing this new batch but really liked the last stuff. Perhaps a bit too much. I've sworn off needles for the time being but I did find myself fantasizing about the other day.
I haven't tried IVing this new batch but really liked the last stuff. Perhaps a bit too much. I've sworn off needles for the time being but I did find myself fantasizing about the other day.
Delsyd
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Does anyone else get really horny on 3meo? It's not the same kind of horny as stimulants where you feel like jerking off to porn or fucking for hours. This feels more primal and probably induced by mania.
I was buying lunch the other day and the girl ringing me up is not someone I would normally find attractive but in that moment I did. I flirted with her for a moment, being extra friendly and making lots of eye contact. Then while eating lunch I fantasized about having sex with her in great detail for a few minutes. It felt dirty and perverted. And i really liked it.
Then I finished my lunch and went back to work. I didn't feel compelled to masturbate like stims would make me do. It just kind of passed. But I have moments like this more and more frequently the deeper in to my binge I get. It makes for great sex at the end of the day.
I was buying lunch the other day and the girl ringing me up is not someone I would normally find attractive but in that moment I did. I flirted with her for a moment, being extra friendly and making lots of eye contact. Then while eating lunch I fantasized about having sex with her in great detail for a few minutes. It felt dirty and perverted. And i really liked it.
Then I finished my lunch and went back to work. I didn't feel compelled to masturbate like stims would make me do. It just kind of passed. But I have moments like this more and more frequently the deeper in to my binge I get. It makes for great sex at the end of the day.
When Vice interviewed the chemist who came up with mxe, he mentioned this particular bit: "3-MeO-PCP and 3-MeO-PCE are simply incredible drugs. They have a true capacity for healing, as the 3-methoxy group infers µ-opioid receptor affinity3 and removes the manic pressure of thought that can make PCP quite a disturbing and unpleasant drug. With the 3-methoxys there is such incredible laughter and boundless sexual energy."
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Ok, unrelated. I gave 3-meo-pcp a whirl (a dozen or so 10-12mg doses) about 6 months ago... maybe a dose every 3 days? I loved it, but gradually I found myself with muscle constant twitches in my right leg/calf/arch of foot and an occasional rapid stutter while talking (sounded super silly, but only happened maybe once or twice a day). After about 2-3 weeks these symptoms both went away and in the last few months I've convinced myself it was probably just a bad batch so I'm about to give 3-meo-pcp another whirl.
Question, this new batch is very sparkly under good lighting. It almost has a similar look to that 'fine crystal sand' batch of what was supposedly "s-isomer" European grade MXE that came from a certain vendor who I won't name but based on the description I just gave you know who I'm talking about. Does anyone know much about this batch? Granted there are probably several batches similar to this so my question is perhaps silly, but if there's any known connection between dirty batches and product with this ultra-fine white sandy texture that sparkles it'd definitely give me caution before using.
Thank you in advance
Delsyd
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I wouldn't say any of the batches I've tried have been "dirty." The one you're describing by appearance sounds like the most recent batch which has more psychedelic qualities and is reminiscent of MXE in some ways.
The previous batches felt more clear headed, manic and maybe slightly more potent. The powder of the previous batches was more flour like with big clumps that you could squeeze between your fingers and it would break up in to powder.
After writing out this response I realized I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.
The previous batches felt more clear headed, manic and maybe slightly more potent. The powder of the previous batches was more flour like with big clumps that you could squeeze between your fingers and it would break up in to powder.
After writing out this response I realized I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.
Your answer makes complete sense. The first batch of 3-meo-pcp I tried was exactly as you describe the previous batch(es) being, flour-ish and clumpy whereas the new one is sparkly and ultra-fine granular. To hear any mention of this new batch being remotely mxe-ish is music to my ears. mxe will forever be the holy grail for me.
I loved MXE. I don't know if I like this "new" batch.
I received some in the beginning of October from a different vendor than the "new" stuff I just received.
I swear to god… I actually believe I hid my last batch somewhere and I can't find it. I keep looking for it at times like a crack head. I almost have the whole house searched through thoroughly hahaha! I was coming down from meth clean from 3-meo and got paranoid(I always do when I do too much, I think I have long term benzo withdrawal from cold turkey high dose with alcohol so many times from like 19-23)… I like to talk about myself apparently though
I've been smoking dabs and this new batch wasn't the same which played with my expectations…. It'd be different I expected this totally different feeling and hadn't had the previous clear headed experience.
It feels way different I think…. But my mind perceives that effect how it does. Subjectively right?
I wish I could throw myself into relatively safe hypomania. We gotta figure out how. I almost had it going but did meth… But who knows what would have happened after my clear-headed 3-meo days...
I'm totally retarded compared to where I was a few weeks ago… Was around the wrong people and did way too high of doses...
Damn them! I was on my own shit! The devil tempted me to smoke and shoot after 3-meo blessed my soul with a promotion I was so happy I quit 3-meo so I could try meth. 300mg shot while taking propanolol. Fucking adrenergic storm and hospitalizations(48 hours post last dose… yeah even dosed more within hours and hung out with a dude who actually had me convinced he was an undercover cop. My friend passed out and I got STUCK with this dude for HOURS thinking the weirdest shit…) and no 3-meo and damn.
Meth. Not even once lmfao no really just start low and slow and research. I really hadn't researched it that much... I went high dose thinking the addicts are just fine… no hello full blown meth experience.
so off topic but it's always fun to read the big & dandy's!
Dude caine THE LAST BATCH OF MXE my buddy got for us was 5 grams of the best cleanest MXE I've ever had. It was soooo good mmmmmm.
I received some in the beginning of October from a different vendor than the "new" stuff I just received.
I swear to god… I actually believe I hid my last batch somewhere and I can't find it. I keep looking for it at times like a crack head. I almost have the whole house searched through thoroughly hahaha! I was coming down from meth clean from 3-meo and got paranoid(I always do when I do too much, I think I have long term benzo withdrawal from cold turkey high dose with alcohol so many times from like 19-23)… I like to talk about myself apparently though
I've been smoking dabs and this new batch wasn't the same which played with my expectations…. It'd be different I expected this totally different feeling and hadn't had the previous clear headed experience.
It feels way different I think…. But my mind perceives that effect how it does. Subjectively right?
I wish I could throw myself into relatively safe hypomania. We gotta figure out how. I almost had it going but did meth… But who knows what would have happened after my clear-headed 3-meo days...
I'm totally retarded compared to where I was a few weeks ago… Was around the wrong people and did way too high of doses...
Damn them! I was on my own shit! The devil tempted me to smoke and shoot after 3-meo blessed my soul with a promotion I was so happy I quit 3-meo so I could try meth. 300mg shot while taking propanolol. Fucking adrenergic storm and hospitalizations(48 hours post last dose… yeah even dosed more within hours and hung out with a dude who actually had me convinced he was an undercover cop. My friend passed out and I got STUCK with this dude for HOURS thinking the weirdest shit…) and no 3-meo and damn.
Meth. Not even once lmfao no really just start low and slow and research. I really hadn't researched it that much... I went high dose thinking the addicts are just fine… no hello full blown meth experience.
so off topic but it's always fun to read the big & dandy's!Dude caine THE LAST BATCH OF MXE my buddy got for us was 5 grams of the best cleanest MXE I've ever had. It was soooo good mmmmmm.
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Do you think this drug can have any benefit to someone with depersonalisation?
Used responsibly of course.
Theory is due to narloxone (u-opoid inverse agonist) being theorised as a potential avenue of treatment for those with depersonalisation.
I have no medical background so might have no link whatsoever.
Nothing physically wrong with my brain after an MRI but I've felt blunted and had no inner monologue for a year or so.
When i last took this stuff it was amazing, I felt as if i'd returned to my old self, my speech facultites and inner monologue had come back. Only issue is it was a messy ride as I was a fool and mistook it for something else whilst blacked out on benzos so it was when I started recalling that I felt this way.
Though I suppose self-medication is not something to be encouraged, I'm curious if anyone has any experience in this.
EDIT: don't actually have DP, was just still a little manic
Used responsibly of course.
Theory is due to narloxone (u-opoid inverse agonist) being theorised as a potential avenue of treatment for those with depersonalisation.
I have no medical background so might have no link whatsoever.
Nothing physically wrong with my brain after an MRI but I've felt blunted and had no inner monologue for a year or so.
When i last took this stuff it was amazing, I felt as if i'd returned to my old self, my speech facultites and inner monologue had come back. Only issue is it was a messy ride as I was a fool and mistook it for something else whilst blacked out on benzos so it was when I started recalling that I felt this way.
Though I suppose self-medication is not something to be encouraged, I'm curious if anyone has any experience in this.
EDIT: don't actually have DP, was just still a little manic
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Pretty sure that turned out to not be true. But we shouldn't forget that NMDA receptors these dissociatives act on are very closely hooked up to opioid receptors, so there may be indirect activity involved.
I don't know of either 'dirtiness' or any pure isomer being associated with these newer white fine batches. You would expect that at least someone would be aware of a fact like it being a pure isomer being passed along from the source, especially since it would make more money. I don't think it's particularly likely though, because it would have significant consequences for potency, which are not being reported.
Instead, my own source doesn't even know anything about there being different batches since the previous time when I had more manic effects from it. Yeah many people insisting that it's quite a sudden and considerable difference makes it pretty hard to ignore, otherwise the best explanation would still be that we are getting a skewed view from the only people reporting on this developing tolerance or something like that.
So sorry, seems to remain a mystery for now.. but it's pretty fascinating isn't it :D
Trying to use this for depersonalization seems to have no proper reason as opioid inverse agonists and antagonists are pretty different (the NMDA system and opioid being intertwined is not a good enough reason), and I think it's pretty risky considering how dissociation is most likely to exacerbate depersonalization or derealization. So I wouldn't do that.
Xorkoth
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I'd say that 3-MeO makes me more into sex at times I would normally be into sex. It's really good for erotic endeavors for sure, one of the best. But to me it facilitates that in the same way it does everything else... basically I feel 200% into it with all available energy and excitement and an open, creative mind. That's why I like it for music, that's why I like it for dancing, that's also why I like it for sex. For me 3-MeO just kind of brings out what's inside, but draws it out much more powerfully.
I will say that just like it took a while for 3-MeO itself to grow on me, it took a while for this new batch to grow on me too. Last weekend I had a drawn out weekend-long experience that ranked up there in greatness with any 3-MeO experience I've ever had on any batch. This batch is different though, there is less mania.
3-MeO is a really fascinating drug. There's a lot to it, more than first meets the eye.
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That's my intuition as well, but really I don't think it's relevant to speculate about the theoretical effects of drugs. Even drugs that have been scientifically proven to alleviate certain disorders like depression are not necessarily effective for every individual. The only way to find out if 3-MeO-PCP works for DP is to self-experiment, IMO.
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I've tried the fine white crystal batch and I have to agree with Delsyd, very psychedelic and thought provoking.Also warm and comfortable in that mxe way. I find dosages between 20-30mg is where it's at, so it must be less potent than other batches.
It is very distorting of my spacial senses. Everytime I hit that 30mg dose ( I usually do 5 mg bumps every 10 minutes over around an hour) I get that beautiful sub hole feeling of floating about 1 metre high and I feel very big compared to everything else around me.
It is very distorting of my spacial senses. Everytime I hit that 30mg dose ( I usually do 5 mg bumps every 10 minutes over around an hour) I get that beautiful sub hole feeling of floating about 1 metre high and I feel very big compared to everything else around me.