The Big & Dandy 2C-X Comparison Thread

[pharmakos]

On the other hand (that's a general thinking, not starters concerned) as some 4-alkyloxy materials may be disappointing, I found CPM (with no real hope something interesting will come out) to be nice but you have to close your eyes and all the magic comes in. Not a strong material as doses can be as high as 80-90mg for some (I'm a bit underweight for some reason and I needed 70mg). I thought of kids intoxicating themselves with DXM to see something with eyes closed and contemplate the world.

cyclopropylmescaline? please tell us more.

 

[porkstock]

Just tried 2C-P yesterday for the first time, at venice beach. I'm quite experienced with 2C-E, with doses ranging from 10-30mg. I ingested 11mg 2C-P and while the duration was long, and the body high was INCREDIBLE, the visuals didn't even compare to 20mg 2C-E. More trails and tracers than actual morphing or melting. Still a nice visual aspect to it, but lacking compared to 2C-E's. Next I plan on combing 2C-P with 2C-D or 2C-B.

what are your thoughts on combining 2cp with 2ce?

 

[adder]

was there ever a clean batch of this available?

I only recall the one cut with 2c-i.

I don't refer to RC vendors stuff or street psychedelics. I know there were some signals of 2C-I : 2C-TFM. 1 : 1 (well, it can be easily explained - 2C-TFM is synthesized from 2C-I in David Nichols synthesis). But that wasn't in my country for sure anyway.

Concerning CPM, well maybe it's not a solution for DXM lovers. This hits quite fast (not the fastest I've encountered but 15 minutes is not long compared to some). It also got me to a plateau quickly (1h or maybe a bit more but that's it). I'd expect such a quick hit from some short-living one. But this kept me good for like half a day. No superb open-eyes visuals, having some experience with DXM (well, it would alright if not for its dirtiness), I mentioned it because CPM has great closed-eyes visuals, mostly just patterns and not much deep thinking aspect but all driven by music. At the end it was kind of hard to fall asleep without some aid of estazolam (and this was after 16 hours). Also, it's kind of "alone" phenethylamine, I guess.

 

[girlygrrl]

My 2 cents, sorry I can't compare to other 2c*'s as I've only had 2c-e...

But the best way to dose is sublingually, oral is vomit-inducing and nasal apparently burns really horribly.

Also be aware of the duration, it lasts a good 13 hours and takes 90min to two hours to kick in, so don't take late at night and make plans for non-trip activities for the next day.

Also 20mg 2c-e kicked my ass thoroughly, and was the strongest drug trip of my entire life, and I have done tons of stuff so definitely start at threshold doses. Think of overdoing it like doing too much salvia extract, but having it last 13 hours, so really start small on the dose.

 

[I like all cereals]

2C-E produces an uncomfortable body load(enjoyable at times, but mostly uncomfortable for me) but also produces some pretty intense synesthesia, this effect, mixed with good music, can send you and your mind into some really interesting places.

2C-I induced a really clean stimulation in me, did not experience much synesthesia, visuals reminiscent of LSD in low doses mixed with the "blur" a lot of users report with a psychedelic phenethylamine trip. Psychological effects very interesting, but less profound than 2C-E, in my opinion.

I would go with 2C-E if you're wanting a more profound experience.

 

[drewmandan]

2c-e with cannabis rocked my world. For a couple of hours my entire sensorium was being deconstructed before my eyes. Very bizarre.

 

[MrYuck]

For someone just dipping their toes in psychedelics, only having done MJ, Methylone, and some dissasociatives, who wasn't exactly sure what they wanted, which 2C-x would be best.

Not looking to blow my brain out, go through ego death or anything, just experience the psychedelic side of life.

From what I've read it seems like either 2C-D or 2C-I seems the way to go. Opinions?

 

[MadHatterLSD]

For someone just dipping their toes in psychedelics, only having done MJ, Methylone, and some dissasociatives, who wasn't exactly sure what they wanted, which 2C-x would be best.

Not looking to blow my brain out, go through ego death or anything, just experience the psychedelic side of life.

From what I've read it seems like either 2C-D or 2C-I seems the way to go. Opinions?

Very subjective and opinion based but 2C-I and/or 2C-B seem to be very good beginner 2C-x's.

 

[solistus]

I find 2C-E pretty mild as well, but I recognize I'm in the minority there. I have yet to find a PEA that pushes me anywhere near ego death, out-of-body experiences, etc. So far, those more intense aspects of tripping only seem to emerge with moderate to high doses of LSD, mushrooms and DMT. 2C-E feels like a more visual, less stimulating variant of 2C-I to me.

I'm curious about 2C-C. It has a reputation for being.... not quite sedating but distinctly more 'relaxing' compared to the sometimes uncomfortable stimulant body load of 2C-E and -I. How visual do y'all find it?

 

[Xorkoth]

2C-B is the lightest and most recreational of them in my opinion, followed closely by 2C-D and then 2C-C. And 2C-I is also pretty recreational, but I find it a little more strongly psychedelic.

 

[solistus]

I'm having a lot of trouble finding any info differentiating 2C-C and 2C-D aside from potency. They both seem to be described as more mild, relaxing, malleable 2Cs. Can anyone who's tried both comment on how they differ experientially? Is one more euphoric? More visual? Do you have a strong preference for one over the other?

 

[Xorkoth]

I definitely prefer 2C-D. I find it lighter and more euphoric, and more mentally active. 2C-C is a more smooth and sedating buzz... I like both but I definitely prefer 2C-D.

 

[KeepingThingsReal]

Best 2C for people not experienced with tripping?

Like, a best first time 2C, or one that's good for people not experienced. What do you think?

 

[amapola]

2c-c is by far the most pleasant and lightest if you ask me.
2c-b has the most visuals is the shortest acting but I don't really like it (feels dirty) and it is illegal in many places.
2c-i can have a strong body load (I did not like it at all) and is longer lasting but is generally more available than 2c-c

Everyone has their favourite and a small dose of any of them would be appropriate.


edit: decided to add these which I haven't personally tried to round out the field

2c-e is considered the "big boy" but in low doses some people find it easy going
2c-d is similar to 2c-c but slighty stronger visuals and possibly more stimulation (it would be my second choice behind 2c-c although I've unfortunatly not yet had it).

 

[smellytim]

probably just avoid -e and the -ts and the rest are good for first timers- 2ci,b,c,d

 

[Project Will]

2c-i was great as a first 2c for me. With the heavy body load and the intensity it can bring, start small (less than 20mg) as heavy doses can be overwhelming if you are inexperienced.

 

[delta_9]

I've always found 2c-e to be the most gentle. Although there are several I have not tried, mainly those which are heavier(molecularly speaking) than 2c-t-2. And the halogenated phenethylamines have never agreed with me so maybe I'm a bit of an oddball when it comes to the 2c-* compounds.

 

[guerillabedlam]

Can be dose/enviornment dependent but 2cb or 2ci is what I reccommend.
I have no personal experience with it but enough research to suggest 2cc as a canidate as well.

 

[DwayneHoover]

I vote 2c-i

One friend I introduced to it started getting it for lots of his friends and their friends etc, said "It's impossible to freak out on." Which makes it sorta unique among psychedelics.

 

[✰hyperobjects✰]

anything from the 2c-* series is a good place to start. All tend to have a clear-headedness to them you don't get with LSD. The only one I wouldn't give a newbie would be 2c-t-2 because there's more of a body load associated from that one.