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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy 2C-T-21 Thread

How stable is this chemical in solution?

I got a good amount of 2C-T-21 that id like to add to solution for easier dosing with the small dosage range and my cheap-o chinese .001 scale.

If I were to add 50mg to a solution of 100 proof Vodka (as 190 everclear is illegal in CA and I dont feel like paying $30 for a whole bottle of 151 run), would it degrade quickly?
 
2C-T-21 sounds wonderful! Very interested in it after reading the reports here and on Erowid.

As far as I can tell this chemical was only available a few times for a short period, and has not been available for some time… seems that a single death from a very stupid incident may have scared some folks off (someone stuck their tongue into a vial of pure chemical, most likely a massive overdose).

However, since it is still not scheduled in many places (including most of Europe, and even the USA, as far as I can tell), is it reasonable to assume it may experience a comeback sometime soon?

Is the synthesis much more difficult than the existing available 2C's? This one seems ripe for rediscovery!
 
..I just came across ~120mg of this along w some other less explored RCs in my old collection that I had in storage i had been looking for for a couple years now. I only got to try it maybe half a dozen times, from what I recall it was very subtle but I remember really enjoyng mixing it with other phens, think I used to always use it in combo w other 2cs so.I have little to no experience of it on its own.

I was excited to have found it, so I took a 12mg dose which was nice and relaxing trip, but a little light for my taste even though that falls on the hugh end of shulgins dose range.very subtle and gentle, but sort of a flat trip w not much insight or depth to it. Overall a positive experience- iguess I was expecting more of a trip like the other thios,

On the other hand, it was a huge plus that I found myself at a family bbq for most of the experience and interacted w fam completely fine and clear headed. I had no hangover on it, and I found it to actually increase my appetite significantly. Slept like a baby that night, and felt great upon awakening.

Granted, I got the stuff circa 04. It was sealed in a vial kept in a controlled temp unit, but I suppose it could have lost potency.as its almost a decade old.

Any suggestions from people more experienced with this old guy on what other compounds make for a good combo w it? Or perhaps I am looking for the wrong effects and should try using it in small doses as a nootropic or mood enhancer? It really does have a subtle but pleasurable mood lift to it. Thoughts?


Like I said I don't have much, and I haven't seen it around in forever which makes me doubt it will make its way back around soon, if ever. Id like to get the most out of it as I see greeat potential in it. Any suggestions as far as different doses or other compounds it plays well with would be greatly appreciated! :)
 
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the shulgin dose range is pretty low for this compound IMO. i've taken it as high as 22mg. at 16mg+ it starts to get visual, with the same sort of spaced out flavor that 2C-T-4 has. 18mg was probably my sweet spot.
 
I just got a small amount of this as a gift from someone who didn't want it. Lucky me! I was wondering if anyone had tried combining it with 2C-I? I feel that a small amount of 2C-I could increase the euphoric elements, but I haven't tried it and won't if someone says something like "no, it muddies it up and screws with the goodness"
 
i haven't tried that particular combo, xorky, but it strikes me as being a safe and potentially awesome combo.

there's a good experience report on erowid about combining this stuff with amphetamine, so as far as monoamine interaction is concerned if amphetamine is fine then other phenethylamines should be okay.

i said it a bit further up on this page, but i'll say it again... i always felt like the shulgin dosage range with this stuff was pretty low. i've pushed the dose with 2c-t-21 as high as 22mg, and it felt pretty physically benign at those doses. as well, it gets a very awesome visual component to it. in one particular trip i remember staring at this dali painting i had on my wall, and all of the debris above the clock was floating around my room. was a very visually beautiful experience.... i think i was on like 16mg or18mg for that experience. i wish i kept better notes of my old trips.... that was about 7 years ago so its hard to say for sure how much i took.

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I'm sort of writing a report on this as I go, I am getting really drawn into reading stuff though. This has been a very pleasurable experience.
 
^ Exciting! I've always enjoyed reading your trip reports so I look forward to seeing a new one!
 
I took notes and wrote a section, have to still write the rest. Overall it wasn't super exciting but it felt SO GOOD, and I combined routes of administration and added a total of 3mg of 2C-I over the course of the night which I could tell made it a little more mentally fuzzy (in a good way). I'll finish the report sometime soon and post it. :)
 
Sounds interesting Xorkoth, glad to see you around these parts again by the way. I look forward to reading the tr.

2c-t-21 was something I was always interested in but never got around to obtaining. Have a bit of a backlog of stuff I've been wanting to taste but just haven't had the time. But perhaps one day...
 
2c-t-21 was something I was always interested in .

Same boat myself. Want to do it but it is backlogged/never got to it. Almost did this summer but couldn't figure out a dose that spoke to me or the friend I was with that night so maybe this spring. Interesting to read that some BLers recommend a much higher dose than Shulgin...wait WTF am I talking about...that is pretty standard procedure as most BLers think Shulgin low-balled the dose big time on every one of his compounds. I'll try it this year along with 2C-P. These are the only two left (available to me) in the 2C family that I want to test but haven't actually taken for a spin....unless someone sends me some 2C-iP. Wasn't that supposed to come out this year or last year?
 
I don't agree that Shulgin low-balled his doses. For me he's mostly spot on.

yeah, 2C-iP has been available from one EU vendor for quite a while, doesn't sound too exciting unfortunately. 2C-P though, wauw, only tried it once and it's amazing if you ask me.

Would love the chance for a stab at 2CT-21 too.
 
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