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The Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread

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I did something similar my first time on 2c-i. I would definitely say start in the park to give yourself a safer setting to come up and get a little used to the effects. I think realistically on a lower dose of 2c-i there is a pretty low chance of anything going horribly wrong, but there is always a chance. The first time I did it me and a friend took 18 mg and wandered around central park/nyc without any problems, although we are both pretty experienced with various psychs

I will say for me though that because 2c-i is so stimulating, it made riding the subway horrible. I have ridden the subway in New York on a number of different psychedelics (acid, mescaline, mdma, 2c-t-2) and 2c-i was the worst.. I think just something about being in such a confined space while being so stimulated. Towards the end of that trip me and my friend ended up hanging out in a bar drinking beers for a few hours waiting to come down a little even though we wanted to go back to his place in Brooklyn because the 5 minute subway ride we'd taken earlier in the trip had been so horrible.. so I'd say avoid the subway if you can. There's plenty to do and see in NY just walking around though and personally I've never had a hard time walking long distances on psychedelics
 
I find 2c-i to be very clear headed and not overwhelming at moderate doses. There was one new years I remember sitting on a subway platform having a friendly chat with two cops while coming up on 2c-i with no worries. Like someone said above, you can act pretty weird in NYC and no one will want to find out why... people might think you're drunk, but they won't do anything unless you are attempting to harm yourself or others.

I personally love tripping in unfamiliar places, and tripping in cities is fun for me. 2c-i can cause some stomach distress (sometimes) about an hour or so in for me, so my recommendation is to come up in a place where you have access to a decent bathroom -- central park, metropolitan museum of art, natural history museum, moma etc all fit the bill and you can hang out there until you feel like braving times square.

One of my favorite 2c-i experiences ever was watching blade runner at the zigfield and exiting into times square on a dark rainy night -- I felt like I walked right into the movie.
 
One of my all time favorite things to do is trip in manhattan. Unfortunately, i believe it requires living there a while and knowing the ropes to such a degree that things such as transportation, how to deal with cops, crowds, crime, food, weather conditions, etc, all become second nature. IE - i would strongly not recommend someone not from nyc come just trip out and walk around.


For my first 2c-i trip I'd like to go into nyc with one of my best friends. He'll be sober (or we may smoke some pot together) so he'll be making sure I'm safe. I'm wondering if NYC is a good place for a first time? I'm very comfortable in the city and there's so many amazing things there to do and see... I'd be taking a lower dose (probably 15-16mg) around 5pm, then getting on a train and going into the city. We'd probably grab food, chill at a hookah bar, check out time square, and chill in central park. My concern is primarily with being around lots of people in small spaces (trains, subways, restaurants, hookah bar, ect.). I'm also a little concerned with times square at night. Everyone mentions lower doses being a lot of stimulation and I feel like the lights in times square at night could make things extremely intense and possibly unpleasant.
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yeah, how experienced are you, really? do you have any idea how intense time square is going to be at night? the amount of mental stimulation is pretty high, let alone you will be navigating through thousands and thousands of bodies in a giant clusterfuck, filled with assholes screaming about that block's comedy show, hordes of 15 year old wannabe thugs, tourists, and lots and lots of cops. ive been in TS tripping a few times. everyone reacts different. i find it kinda cool on a hit or two, but more than 3 hits id never go near that place.

central park, tripping, at night? again, ive done this before, but im adapted to doing things like this. an out of towner ina psychedelic headspace in central park at night is like holding a sign in prison that reads FRESH MEAT. most likely the worst thing that will happen is an overweight raccoon or deer will scare you. its also marginally likely youll have to get stitches and a tetanus shot from whatever rusty razorblade you got slashed with.

ny is not the safest for trippers for 2 reasons: the crime free areas are filled with assholes that wont respond kindly to you being on psychedelic drugs (so you gotta be mad 'cool' ya dig?). the dangerous areas that you may not be adapted to living in may take full advantage of your cognitive encumbrance.

i recommend tripping during the day. for serious. dont go into the boroughs at all unless you know them well.




for the initiated, i recommend starting at 125th in central park at around 10am, and wandering through the park until you peak. from there, hit up chelsea and hit some golfballs towards nj at one of the ranges while the sun sets. then walk to the village until you come down (this is assuming an 8+ hour trip on acid or something).

ive tripped all over nyc, queens, brooklyn, and have one terror story about a time where i ended up in the bronx tripping and dear lord that will never happen again. i actually dont like being in manhattan much but its a crazy zoo to trip in. coney island is another perfect example, i freaked out crazy for an hour one time thinking the world was ending and it was some post apocalyptic abandoned city. I forgot coney is just dirty. Been there a million times, and ive tripped hundreds of times - this city is just so fucking bizzare that you never know whats gonna trigger a deep reaction in your trippin head.
 
hrm, i think im noticing its 70 this week
i also think its good friday and i dont gotta work,

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand

i got some crazy cabin fever. ill be taking a loooooooooong walk through the city all day. been too long, this thread reminded me.
 
Does anyone else get so stimulated that there hands shake and are really unsteady? I've taken doses from 15 - 23mg and it's happened every time. I've tried playing piano but my arms were so jittery and my hands would not stop shaking that it made it difficult to really play.

2c-i at low doses, around 5 - 10mg, are great for residual stimulation and uplifted mood, but anything higher and I get crazy overstimulated with a lot of muscle tension that can't be worked out. I remember I kept trying to stretch but it wouldn't do any good.

I read something about a magnesium supplement that helps in decreasing muscle tension??

Oh, and 5mg 2c-i + 5mg 2c-e + MDMA + live music = awesome combo
 
I think people here who suggest that 2c-i has little if any psychedelic "value" are right (at least relative to the other psychedelics). However, this "superficial" nature is actually why I've been taking it when I've wanted to trip recently. I'm at a bit of a shaky point in my life at the moment, and I don't think it would be wise for me to take a serious psychedelic just now. Therefore, when I've wanted to trip, I've been taking 2c-i. The trips have been totally recreational, mostly in the form of insane amounts of laughing (which I've not had on any other psychedelic).

All that said, I still find the body load to be very uncomfortable, and if I can't find a way to alleviate it mostly, I'm going to hesitate to dip into the 2c-i next time.
 
^ I know what you mean as well dude, right now, 2C-I or 2C-B are the only psychs I trust myself with in ANY situation, oh and psilocybes...

I'm at the point where there's a lot I need to sort out and feel that I could do 2C-E, and LSD, but in a very controlled environment only...not out and about.

chaosbydesign said:
...I must've been acting really euphoric ( they were waving their arms in front of me saying "You trippin'?!" and "What color is my shirt?" and running up to my face yelling stuff, trying to freak me out since they knew I was tripping. At the time, I just felt bad for these people in my mind. They were really pathetic, in a laughable way. ....caused them to behave in such a hostile way towards random strangers, but all the same they amused me. I just smiled and talked back and wasn't fazed. I think they were maybe disappointed they weren't able to make the trippy girl didn't "freak out".
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I really hate it when people feel the need to do this - don't ruin someone's buz...especially if they're tripping - although they probably have no idea that just the smallest wrong thing to an unseasoned mind can really send it down a horrible mindloop at the best of times... Good that you're experienced and chill - I can't say I'm pretty experienced but it sounds like exactly the way I'd handle the situation, just talking to them etc.

GOT MY 2C-I!!!!! Oh yeahhhhh....
gonna have a dose on thursday night with some friends, maybe 12-15mg? Haven't had anything but weed, booze and valium for about 3/4 weeks....so my mind is nice & fresh for a good experience.

Might even try plugging for the first time depending who I'm with.
 
Extracticator said:
Does anyone else find 2c-i to be very lacking in the deep psychedelic thinking mindset that seems to be so common with other substances? I have only experienced deep or profound thoughts once on 2c-i and it was with a large 40 mg dose. All other times I am very obviously high but don't feel like i'm part of the experience, more like i'm just watching a nice visual art show. I'd like to know what some other people think or if there are combos/doses that will allow me to trip deeper with 2c-i.
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The most profound shit that I can actually remember has often involved really high dose 2C-I and nitrous.

At lower doses, it's really just a stimulant with visuals and a rave tool for me, but the deep characteristics come out when you shoot way past the Pihkal doses and combo it. (I know, I know, HR site, but some chems that are pretty physically benign are experienced in a half assed way by some people imo.)
 
thanks for that^ I think I will try and push this one harder then, maybe 35-40mg oral? I found nothing wrong at all with the physical stimulation of this substance, aside from the comeup nausea so I think that should be OK pushing it higher than 25mg, and not get any unpleasantries?

how high have you pushed this chem not in combo? And did you find it profound at all on it's own?
 
I wouldn't really call 2c-i physically benign when compared to other psychedelics. It has a lot of uncomfortable stimulation (the main thing that keeps me from going above 20ish mg), a tendency to induce headaches, and irritates your GI system although not as badly as some others.

I'm not at all saying it's dangerous but it definitely feels "worse" than some other psychs. It wouldn't exactly be my first choice for a heavy trip.
 
^ I meant serious health risks. I almost never puke and get little GI disturbance, but YMMV for sure.

^^ I have pushed 65mg orally and 45mg insufflated (Highest per ROA, not the same times, but dosed many times at those) with alcohol, cannabis, cases of nitrous, and 1-5 points or pokeballs in a night. Yeah, binging, don't do this in the name of HR, but I'm not going to deny the headspace I reached from doing so. I still like taking a bunch of 2C-I but I don't binge as much on nitrous and usually don't flip it.
 
2C-I & MDMA combo - anything special??

Doing a combo this weekend maybe, any ideas about how to do this, I was thinking just doing both at the same time - maybe a small insufflated dose, and a 200mg bomb of MDMA - they potentiate each other if I'm not mistaken?
 
I'm not a fan of the whole '2c-i does not have a lot of "value" as a psychedelic' argument.

Someone mentioned laughing a lot, or just having 'recreational' trips without much serious afterthought. I'd be inclined to argue that those experiences have considerable therapeutic value derived from 2c-i's psychedelia. It may not be as in-your-face as comparable psychedelics but the subtlety of a quality does not imply a complete lack of value. In fact, quite the opposite: it is just this subtly that makes 2c-i such an awesome phen. =D
 
i don't really understand why but I don't care a whole lot for 2C-I. Must be the body load / stimulation that goes up faster than the visuals and faster than the really interesting spiritual feelings. Mentally it's not that spectacular either.

But it is warm as the sun! Not so warm close to the heart such as 2C-T-7 but mainly a sensation as if the suns golden rays make everything bath in an orange glow. It's not that dirty with regard to the empathy-like feelings projected on the heart but you know... stimulation is just not the same, it's no substitute.

I may take it again, but first I have a lot of tryptamines to try and when I get back to 2C's I think 2C-T-2 will come first for novelty, then 2C-E to explore it completely since I havent done that, then 2C-T-7 because it has proven its absolutely stunning value.

You know, reading over this again I think I'm going to substitute empathogenic stimulants for 2C-I the next party I go to. The stimulation is most welcome at a party and the sunbathing quality would be quite interesting in such a setting.
 
naginnudej said:
I'm not a fan of the whole '2c-i does not have a lot of "value" as a psychedelic' argument.

Someone mentioned laughing a lot, or just having 'recreational' trips without much serious afterthought. I'd be inclined to argue that those experiences have considerable therapeutic value derived from 2c-i's psychedelia. It may not be as in-your-face as comparable psychedelics but the subtlety of a quality does not imply a complete lack of value. In fact, quite the opposite: it is just this subtly that makes 2c-i such an awesome phen. =D
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second that!
 
exactly, no chemical is any less profound than you want it to be. I have absolutely no clue how people view this trip is purely recreational. You must have had it in mind to use it in that way, or you just don't use these substances correctly.


The profundity comes from you. It's all up to you. The substance just gives you greater access to learn the ability.
 
Nitrous + 2C-I is the most common re-entering deja vu feeling I have ever consistently had from a drug.

Common symbols of basic dimensions, tribal symbols, eyes, and ultimate geometric confusion as my main field of vision upon complex puns and ideals executing in ways inhumanly possible in front of my eyes to the visuals leaves me almost terrified in awe every time I go back to wah wah land on 2C-I.

Usually 2C-I is just trails, warps, and giggles at normal doses, but downing a case of nitrous and upping your dose (As a DXM user, I am somebody willing to suffer a bit in a trip to experience it, many epic trips have a cover charge) until I can't is sooo worth it.
 
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