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The Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread

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2c-i in NYC?

I'm going to be trying 2c-i for the first time this weekend. I've been reading up on 2c-i for a few months so I'm fairly confident that I won't have any issues with finding a good dose, inaccurate dosing, ect. I've been wondering about set & setting for a first 2c-i trip though and I was hoping a few people on here that have experience with it could share their thoughts. I'm also curious about potential interactions with some other things.

For my first 2c-i trip I'd like to go into nyc with one of my best friends. He'll be sober (or we may smoke some pot together) so he'll be making sure I'm safe. I'm wondering if NYC is a good place for a first time? I'm very comfortable in the city and there's so many amazing things there to do and see... I'd be taking a lower dose (probably 15-16mg) around 5pm, then getting on a train and going into the city. We'd probably grab food, chill at a hookah bar, check out time square, and chill in central park. My concern is primarily with being around lots of people in small spaces (trains, subways, restaurants, hookah bar, ect.). I'm also a little concerned with times square at night. Everyone mentions lower doses being a lot of stimulation and I feel like the lights in times square at night could make things extremely intense and possibly unpleasant.

As far as experience goes I don't have much experience with hallucinogens. I've done acid a few times, that's about it. I've been experimenting with methylone for a while and i've gotten some visuals at high doses. I've also had some full visual experiences with dxm. I've done methylone in public many times (including several in NYC) without any issues and I never really get freaked out or loose my calm when trying out new things.

I'm wondering if there are any potential interactions with concerta (methylphenidate). I usually take it at 6am so it would be mostly out of my body by the time I dosed, but if it could be a problem I just wouldnt take it. (I'm assuming it won't be a problem though because I've read people's experiences with mdma + 2ci so I'm assuming that RCs and amphetamines don't have any dangerous interactions). I'm also wondering if RCs have any dangerous interactions with tobacco. I highly doubt they do but it's good to make sure.

I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts and/or suggestions.
 
2C-I leaves me relatively clearheaded, at least at the dosage you are considering... but trying such a substance for the first time in a setting like that is most always a risky idea, while it can be potentialy interesting (otherwise you wouldn't consider it I guess) it can also be potentially quite uncomfortable. Both these 'risks' increase, but I don't think the latter is worth the former.

Of course it is always someone's own decision if they want this gamble, I had a period in which I just didn't care and wanted some fear and loathing, and it brought me both the positive and the negative I mentioned. Freaking out in NYC could be more disastrous than in a small-ish amusement park with a group of people though.

The fact that you have little previous experience is also a good reason not to do this. 2C-I seems to have clubbing potential in the dosage you consider (maybe the most of all 2C-X in my experience), but only if there is a possibility to get to peace and safety if you would need that. Other than that just check it out a couple times in a safe and homely environment first, at different dosages. Also try different things to do while on it so you see how you react on, for instance, socializing with a couple of people around you and other situations that can be less controllable.
 
obviously there is going to be some risk in an uncontrolled environment, however most people don't find 2c-i, especially at the doses you're talking about, to have much freakout potential. Given that you've read up on it a bit and will have a sober(ish) sitter, I'd venture a guess that you'd be fine, but that's just a guess. With the halogenated 2c-x's, I find they are much more fun in stimulating environments, otherwise, just kinda boring. NYC offers a lot to occupy yourself with, so that would probably be a good time, and if you don't like crowds, there's always central park.

I might skip the concerta that morning unless doing so makes you feel unpleasant. There aren't any contraindications that i'm aware of, but most people find 2c-i pretty stimulating on its own, but if you take the concerta that early in the am, it shouldn't be much of an issue.
 
I was able to act pretty normal, even on a much higher dose than the one you are considering. As Solipsis said, the 2c-i high is very clearheaded and you should be able to walk and communicate normally. The only thing that may give away your use (if that is what you are afraid of) would be dilated pupils.
 
Wow thanks for the quick replies Solipsis & any major dude!

@Solipsis: You raise a good point about it being a gamble & that freaking out in NYC could be pretty disastrous. I think if I decide to go I will head to central park first and spend some time there before going anywhere crowded.

It's good to hear that this dose leaves you pretty clearheaded. That's what im going for.

@any major dude: You're thinking along the same lines as I am... NYC has endless things to do and see... I got the idea from some friends of mine that spent 2 days in the city doing DOB, 2C-E, and MDMA over the summer. They said it had been one of the greatest experiences of their lives.

I think I'll take your suggestion and skip the concerta and get a lot of sleep the night before.


Does 2C-I typically mess with your appetite? I've seen lots of people recommend eating something light before the trip but i havent read anything about eating while tripping.
 
JimenyRickets said:
I was able to act pretty normal, even on a much higher dose than the one you are considering. As Solipsis said, the 2c-i high is very clearheaded and you should be able to walk and communicate normally. The only thing that may give away your use (if that is what you are afraid of) would be dilated pupils.
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I'll keep that in mind. I'm not too concerned about anyone looking at my eyes this time, but that is definitely good to know for the future.
 
I wouldn't recommend it for your first time for reasons stated above. If you are gonna do it spend your peak in a place like Central park and not on a busy street in Times Square.

I actually plan on getting a good group together to go trip in Central park soon but I wouldn't wanna wander around hectic streets with lots of traffic or spend too much time on the subways. You need a relatively calm place to chill in I think.
 
2c-I is very stimulating as is, I wouldn't take any other stimulants with it.

If you want to go walking about the city you can. I've done that on 2c-I, fun times. Being around cops while on 2c-I can make you very anxious though, if you are ballsy then you'll be all right. It's about how you can handle yourself no matter what happens in any situation, etc.

Some people sketch out easy, if you're one of them, I wouldn't go walking around on 2c-I. If you're like me and don't sketch out that much, you should be fine. :)
 
Delta-9-THC said:
I wouldn't recommend it for your first time for reasons stated above. If you are gonna do it spend your peak in a place like Central park and not on a busy street in Times Square.

I actually plan on getting a good group together to go trip in Central park soon but I wouldn't wanna wander around hectic streets with lots of traffic or spend too much time on the subways. You need a relatively calm place to chill in I think.
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I also wouldn't enjoy the subway my first time on a substance. Try getting comfortable before you start trekking around.

A little experience and then have a blast. Go to PS1.
 
I'll give you some advice.. stay away from Italians when you are tripping on 2c-i in particular.

LOL just kidding... (if anyone gets offended you'll be taking what I say very seriously as I'm not racist, I mean c'mon.. "clubbinguido" haha. But anyway, you'll see below...

I have a story... I just remember one time walking outside while tripping on 2c-i, and my boyfriend and I were chilling in his backyard on the hammock, occasionally swinging on a fake vine dangling from his tree. Sometimes, I'd kick the fence in order to bounce off of it. Well, happens that a big group of obnoxious kids was on the other side of the fence, and they start peeking over the top of the fence saying "Stop kicking OUR fence!" when I have no idea how it'd be considered "their fence" considering it's on my boyfriend's property. Anyway, we just ignored them, but they kept shouting shit to us after that. My boyfriend disappeared and I thought he'd went out to talk to the kids or tell them to cut it out, so I followed him. Only when I went out there, I found that he wasn't there at all and had gone somewhere else. I was stuck with these kids (all Italians, that's why I mentioned it earlier lol) and I must've been acting really euphoric (2c-i reminds me a LOT of MDMA) they were waving their arms in front of me saying "You trippin'?!" and "What color is my shirt?" and running up to my face yelling stuff, trying to freak me out since they knew I was tripping. At the time, I just felt bad for these people in my mind. They were really pathetic, in a laughable way. I felt their pain that probably caused them to behave in such a hostile way towards random strangers, but all the same they amused me. I just smiled and talked back and wasn't fazed. I think they were maybe disappointed they weren't able to make the trippy girl "freak out". It was interesting because I thought back to what MADE these people that way and felt seriously bad for them, not so much about defending myself. (It was probably naive for me to go over there, who knows what these kids could've done, but at the time I was being kinda stupid)

Anyway, random story. Hii!
 
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Me too :)

I've always wanted to go to the Museum of Natural History while tripping. Last time I was there though it was so crowded that it wouldn't have been fun. Maybe if I went early in the morning. 2c-c or perhaps Miprocin would probably be the best for such an adventure %)

I had a pretty fun trip in Washington Square Park on a low dose of psilacetin with a few friends. Very fun people watching and some pretty good live jazz.

It can be a lot of fun to explore cool spots in the city while in a psychedelic state just make sure you take moderate doses and you know your way around or are with someone who does.
 
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well, I wrote a whole long post but it got deleted by accident, so I will just summarize and say that 2c comeups can be pretty strange so if you're intent on doing it the first time in public, make SURE your dose is accurate, and don't go very high. Def dont go above 15mg (and i'd consider that the high end, my first trip was 12mg and it ended up perfect), and I would agree with

najinnude said:
Try getting comfortable before you start trekking around.
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I would suggest a more controlled environment to at least come up and feel the trip out... Manhattan can get really strange when you're tripping hard... (wait till those skyscrapers start melting ;)....and you're walking side by side with a cop, a trannie, 2 guy gays, and a rich old lady)
 
I would say take it earlier in the day than 5pm and expect it to kick in 25-30mins after taking it. Go to central park first. sit and chill for awhile and see how you feel. 15mg is a decent amount for your first time. you'll most def have a good time.

but yeah if i where you i'd start the trip in the park, walk around a bit then decide if you want to go to a hookah bar and what not.

you gonna love talking to your buddy i bet ya.
 
FractalStructure said:
well, I wrote a whole long post but it got deleted by accident, so I will just summarize and say that 2c comeups can be pretty strange so if you're intent on doing it the first time in public, make SURE your dose is accurate, and don't go very high. Def dont go above 15mg (and i'd consider that the high end, my first trip was 12mg and it ended up perfect), and I would agree with



I would suggest a more controlled environment to at least come up and feel the trip out... Manhattan can get really strange when you're tripping hard... (wait till those skyscrapers start melting ;)....and you're walking side by side with a cop, a trannie, 2 guy gays, and a rich old lady)
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holy shit I cant stand when that happens. you type up a huge post then lose it.
I almost always highlight and copy a long post before hitting submit just in case. lol
 
Taking any psychedelic in public is a risky proposition, but as far as psychedelics go, a low-mid dose of 2C-I seems like among the "least bad" of them for this purpose. You're probably much less likely to flip out and cause a scene than on, say, high dose LSD or mushrooms - unless a cop has some reason to interact with you or something like that, the worst that would likely happen is you not enjoying it and wishing you were somewhere more private.

I would recommend trying it once in a private setting, at the very least, before doing this. With any drug, but RCs in particular, it's much better to do this so you know how you react to it. No drug affects everyone the same way. If you have a really bad reaction to 2C-I, or even a really good but unusually intense reaction, you could really regret finding this out for the first time in the middle of a huge city during day/evening hours with 'normals' about.

Personally, the only semi-public venues that sound appealing in combo with psychedelics are concerts/raves/festivals/other music events. Other than that, I'd almost always prefer my home or a close friend's house, or some fairly secluded natural setting, for my trips. Whatever you decide to do, have fun and be safe (:
 
I second the notion of 2Cs having weird and uncomfortable come ups.

Trying it in private first is a very good idea because, as Solistus said, different people will have different reactions to the drug and there is no way for you to predict how you will respond. For all you know it may give you severe nausea and headaches for the entire trip. It probably won't but it is definitely possible.

I think the best thing to do would be to chill somewhere for the come up (like an apartment if available) and then venture out depending on how you're feeling.

I think a 12mg dose would be about right for this.
 
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