The Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread
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feelgoodhit
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yeah, i've heard of really long come-up's on 2c-i before due to full stomach.
ChampagneSupernova
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Aquabat, it came from the same batch previously used.
Two weeks in heat shouldn't have damaged the 2c-i to that extent, unless as was already mentioned it was dropped in a fire...
The food with it shouldn't have affected it that much.
Really I see three things that could have happened.
1) Your scale is very inaccurate and you measured a dose too small.
2) You were tripping, but just very lightly and didn't notice without a fast come-up.
3) Someone switched the 2c-i and lied to you.
I don't know you or what kind of scale you use, but option one seems the most plausible right now (to me).
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Two weeks in heat shouldn't have damaged the 2c-i to that extent, unless as was already mentioned it was dropped in a fire...
The food with it shouldn't have affected it that much.
Really I see three things that could have happened.
1) Your scale is very inaccurate and you measured a dose too small.
2) You were tripping, but just very lightly and didn't notice without a fast come-up.
3) Someone switched the 2c-i and lied to you.
I don't know you or what kind of scale you use, but option one seems the most plausible right now (to me).
3)
Morninggloryseed
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swilow said:
heh (replying to a question from last year)....well you just close your eyes when the sensory games get too weird. And they have...but I close my eyes and all is well.
Mr Blonde
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I worry about the same thing when I dose codeine sometimes, that I ate too quickly after dosing (i.e. right away), and that it has stolen some of my dose.
I found 2ci to be a incredible psychedelic and has nothing in common with mdma apart from coming in a cap. I've also found 2cb to have nothing in common with mdma either apart from coming as a pill.
Be warned these drugs are powerful psychedelics and choose where you take them wisely. But remember everyones experiences on them can vary.
Like threefingers I found 2ci to be visually incredible. Its really hard to explain we had it an event and it was kinda like walking everywhere in a bubble while the world rushes by. Inside or outside it didn't really make a differance in the way everything looked.
Be warned these drugs are powerful psychedelics and choose where you take them wisely. But remember everyones experiences on them can vary.
Like threefingers I found 2ci to be visually incredible. Its really hard to explain we had it an event and it was kinda like walking everywhere in a bubble while the world rushes by. Inside or outside it didn't really make a differance in the way everything looked.
dread
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I've had hilarious experiences on 2C-I.. the ability to control the trip absolutely was fun. Lots of eyecandy.
I've also tried 2C-I intravenously. 5mg gave the same effect as 20mg orally.
I've also tried 2C-I intravenously. 5mg gave the same effect as 20mg orally.
I've no idea how much I actually took as it came as a cap but it was bordering too much at one point
def recommend taking it an event - unless your home is set up for the psychedelic experience, an event there is many more ways to have an incredible experience.
def recommend taking it an event - unless your home is set up for the psychedelic experience, an event there is many more ways to have an incredible experience.
2c-i and Temporomandibular joint disorder
2c-i administered two nights in a row, within 16 hours of each other. Both doses also administered with 5 grams of super grade Kratom.
First dose: 19mg
Second dose: 28mg
After administration, the jaw no longer fits together comfortably. Now it is the third day after the second dose and the front teeth when mouth is closed push against each other. The rest of the teeth feel like they fit alright, though its a lot more comfortable in the front when the jaw is moved slightly to the right. Chin also looks bigger in the mirror...
What are recommended methods of fixing this? Magnesium and calcium supplements have been known to help with blood flow through the jaw muscles. I haven't heard much else on jaw problems.
2c-i administered two nights in a row, within 16 hours of each other. Both doses also administered with 5 grams of super grade Kratom.
First dose: 19mg
Second dose: 28mg
After administration, the jaw no longer fits together comfortably. Now it is the third day after the second dose and the front teeth when mouth is closed push against each other. The rest of the teeth feel like they fit alright, though its a lot more comfortable in the front when the jaw is moved slightly to the right. Chin also looks bigger in the mirror...
What are recommended methods of fixing this? Magnesium and calcium supplements have been known to help with blood flow through the jaw muscles. I haven't heard much else on jaw problems.
junctionalfunkie
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Did you have TMJ before this?
I have TMJ intermittently, usually in cooler, damper weather. Never done 2c-i, though I plan to.
Burt Reynolds reportedly has it (TMJ, not 2c-i).
I have TMJ intermittently, usually in cooler, damper weather. Never done 2c-i, though I plan to.
Burt Reynolds reportedly has it (TMJ, not 2c-i).
I only remember my mouth being this uncomfortable since taking the second dose of 2c-i.
Prior to this I never had a problem with closing my mouth, I now see how I took how comfortable my mouth was for granted :D
However, the second trip was my second day in Montreal. Normally I live in southern Ontario but for this week I am up writing with my band. Perhaps it has to do with a combination of the weather and the 2c-i. But it's been alright on the temperature and air front so far... from what I can tell.
Prior to this I never had a problem with closing my mouth, I now see how I took how comfortable my mouth was for granted :D
However, the second trip was my second day in Montreal. Normally I live in southern Ontario but for this week I am up writing with my band. Perhaps it has to do with a combination of the weather and the 2c-i. But it's been alright on the temperature and air front so far... from what I can tell.
You would be wise to make sure that when ingesting calcium whether in food or supplements it's imperative to take magnesium with it to balance it out (mg:ca in 2:1 ratio), otherwise it could well be counterproductive. Actually taking only magnesium could be the best choice if you ask me.
It should be available in most drugstores or pharmacies.
2C-I probably destabilizes your serotonin mechanism and maybe also a little dopamine which I guess both have an effect on your delta muscle controlling your jaw. This (I think) is what causes bruxism after taking MDMA or similar substances. A lot of drugs can give me jaw tension, some more during the effects and some more afterwards. It probably has something to do with direct neurotransmitter agonism or collateral destabilization, the former producing instant jaw clech and the latter a sort of chronic variation.
So it doesn't really surprise me that 2C-I has this tendency. It's best if you take supplements to combat the TMJ (personally I might consider muscle relaxants when it's really bad) and lower your 2C-I intake.
I have heard more than once about chronic physical side-effects including stuff like HPPD which I think has a physical cause from 2C-I, be very conscious about your use.
It should be available in most drugstores or pharmacies.
2C-I probably destabilizes your serotonin mechanism and maybe also a little dopamine which I guess both have an effect on your delta muscle controlling your jaw. This (I think) is what causes bruxism after taking MDMA or similar substances. A lot of drugs can give me jaw tension, some more during the effects and some more afterwards. It probably has something to do with direct neurotransmitter agonism or collateral destabilization, the former producing instant jaw clech and the latter a sort of chronic variation.
So it doesn't really surprise me that 2C-I has this tendency. It's best if you take supplements to combat the TMJ (personally I might consider muscle relaxants when it's really bad) and lower your 2C-I intake.
I have heard more than once about chronic physical side-effects including stuff like HPPD which I think has a physical cause from 2C-I, be very conscious about your use.
TRPPNASS_DSCOMONKE
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do you ever get the feeling like your teeth dont fit together right when on/after a decent dose of stims or psychs? anybody?
ive had this before OP, where the jaw feels slightly more forward and the teeth pushing on the others. always after drug use. it will pass. try just opening and closing your mouth many times to exercise and relax the muscle.
ive had this before OP, where the jaw feels slightly more forward and the teeth pushing on the others. always after drug use. it will pass. try just opening and closing your mouth many times to exercise and relax the muscle.
Xorkoth
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Merged in a thread about 2C-I and joint disorder.
I have experienced joint weakness and pain (or seemingly so) with 2C-E when I've used it too much in a period of time, but not with 2C-I.
I have experienced joint weakness and pain (or seemingly so) with 2C-E when I've used it too much in a period of time, but not with 2C-I.
"do you ever get the feeling like your teeth dont fit together right when on/after a decent dose of stims or psychs? anybody? "
Yes, this is exactly what it feels. It does also feel like it's subsiding but it could either be me getting used to it, or just because I just woke up and my jaw is readjusting itself.
Yes, this is exactly what it feels. It does also feel like it's subsiding but it could either be me getting used to it, or just because I just woke up and my jaw is readjusting itself.
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