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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread - ver. 3.0

Someone got some info about the batches of 2c-e of 3 years ago from dutch vendors?
Got some but something is off with the potency, 25mg aren t strong, seems like 50% the potency to me.
Someone else had the same experience? What would be a way to wash it?
 
Wow, for me, 2C-E is among the deepest and most powerful psychedelics of all psychedelics (not just the 2C-Xs). I find it by far the most worthwhile of all the 2C-Xs, 2C-B and 2C-I are both kind of shallow candy sort of psychedelics to me. Not entirely shallow but com[pared to 2C-E there is no depth or power. 2C-E has given me a full ego death experience and every time I take it I find the experience difficult, but immensely worthwhile.

Do you require high doses of 2C-E? I have heard others say it's shallow for them too, and they are reporting very high doses (30-50mg). Whereas for those of us who find it deep and powerful, the dose is far lower. For example the most intensely psychedelic experience I ever had (my +4 ego death on 2C-E), I took 18mg orally. Even 8-10mg will be a trip that surprises me with its intensity. I am guessing you're one of the ones who falls into the camp of needing a lot and finding it pretty shallow/trivial. Strange how differently different individuals react to 2C-E. I can't imagine ever describing 2C-E as a novelty, and then describing 2C-I as the real gem in the series. For me it's the opposite.
 
I have only one real experience with 2c-e, going back around 8 years ago. If I remember correctly, it was a cap containing 22mg. Wow, that was a trip, and one that definitely took me by surprise.

My memory of it has faded somewhat but I remember the sky turning into a pulsating green and purple grid. We decided the comforts of home were needed, but that in itself was a task. Once home, all I remember was having a very heavy body high and that music sounded better than it ever has before - even beating LSD.

The only other time i’ve taken it was 20mg from a different source a year or so later and it pretty much did nothing. Puzzling as I have had it tested (still sitting on around 60mg of it) and it came back positive for 2c-e. Maybe it’s not a very potent batch like @Dekey said above...
 
Xorkoth said:
Wow, for me, 2C-E is among the deepest and most powerful psychedelics of all psychedelics (not just the 2C-Xs). I find it by far the most worthwhile of all the 2C-Xs, 2C-B and 2C-I are both kind of shallow candy sort of psychedelics to me. Not entirely shallow but com[pared to 2C-E there is no depth or power. 2C-E has given me a full ego death experience and every time I take it I find the experience difficult, but immensely worthwhile.

Do you require high doses of 2C-E? I have heard others say it's shallow for them too, and they are reporting very high doses (30-50mg). Whereas for those of us who find it deep and powerful, the dose is far lower. For example the most intensely psychedelic experience I ever had (my +4 ego death on 2C-E), I took 18mg orally. Even 8-10mg will be a trip that surprises me with its intensity. I am guessing you're one of the ones who falls into the camp of needing a lot and finding it pretty shallow/trivial. Strange how differently different individuals react to 2C-E. I can't imagine ever describing 2C-E as a novelty, and then describing 2C-I as the real gem in the series. For me it's the opposite
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Yeah. 2c-i was the novelty one for me, more of a psychedelic amphetamine in ways but not quite. I experimented with it when there was lots around but once it was gone have never wanted any more of it since. 2c-b is an empathogen and only really became a psychedelic at high doses.

2c-e is a proper psychedelic for me even at a low dose, extremely strong visuals and headspace. It's closer to the likes of 2c-t-2/2c-t-7. At high doses it is one to remember.

2c-p gives it a run for it's money visually but lacks the depth of 2c-e. If you could only try one of these and wanted a psychedelic experience I would recommend 2c-e. Although the more enjoyable chemicals don't always tend to be the deepest psychedelics. I can see why 2c-b is so popular nowadays but it wouldn't be my 2c of choice although I've had many great experiences with it.

If you find 2c-e weak orally, try insufflating it but know that it is much more potent. The only big negative with 2c-e apart from the intensity is the body load and nausea in the comeup. It made me produce a lot of mucous.
 
I've tried about 12mg of this in the past a few times, found it to be good for introspection and found it helped connect to my heart. Recently decided to try 10mg plugged and my girlfriend also wanted to try the same amount plugged. I warned her it might be too much for a first try but she was very insistent. She was tripping hard within a couple of minutes, and I only felt a very slight effect, like a calmness and a little bit of the psychedelic vibration. No visuals for me, however it did open up a deeper empathy, I remember at one point holding a bowl for her to vomit into and it felt like I was vomiting at the same time.

I'm thinking of plugging 15mg next time since there was so little at 10mg, and also thinking 13mg might be better since the dose response curve is said to be so steep
 
All 2C-x are excellent and enjoyable imo :)

Freeotrope said:
I've tried about 12mg of this in the past a few times, found it to be good for introspection and found it helped connect to my heart. Recently decided to try 10mg plugged and my girlfriend also wanted to try the same amount plugged. I warned her it might be too much for a first try but she was very insistent. She was tripping hard within a couple of minutes, and I only felt a very slight effect, like a calmness and a little bit of the psychedelic vibration. No visuals for me, however it did open up a deeper empathy, I remember at one point holding a bowl for her to vomit into and it felt like I was vomiting at the same time.

I'm thinking of plugging 15mg next time since there was so little at 10mg, and also thinking 13mg might be better since the dose response curve is said to be so steep
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Was the 12mg taken orally? If so maybe it didn't absorb all.

Dekey said:
Someone got some info about the batches of 2c-e of 3 years ago from dutch vendors?
Got some but something is off with the potency, 25mg aren t strong, seems like 50% the potency to me.
Someone else had the same experience? What would be a way to wash it?
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I have a pure white (beautiful) and pinkish batch. Both are equipotent ime.
 
Freeotrope said:
...it did open up a deeper empathy, I remember at one point holding a bowl for her to vomit into and it felt like I was vomiting at the same time.
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Only a psychonaut could see love in vomit. Some of my deepest thoughts about the universe were triggered by looking into a toilet.

2c-e was a funny one for me. I only tried it a few times (years ago). Got strong visuals, but it felt emotionally cold, or neutral at best. Somehow I didn't get much out of it. Maybe it wasn't the right time for me. I still have some in the freezer and look forward to trying it again some day.
 
Listening said:
but it felt emotionally cold, or neutral at best.
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This is indeed always the case, 2C-E tends to be almost painfully neutral, a straight face while experiencing crazy effects... =D lol.
To me the point of 2C-E is to kind of prove that the "machinistic" reality you experience while on it is not necessarily the case and through thinking about things you can find emotion and beauty in that reality. It's a wonderful exercise in thinking and because of that exact dynamic (cold & raw reality vs the human you) it's a really unique experience imo and can offer great perspective on things.

Generally I don't particularly agree with people when they say that 2C-E is a gem and one of the best, "objectively" (as far as that is possible with these matters) 2C-E is really not in my opinion. But it is easily one of my favorite drugs, it's just a way of tripping and going about things that suits me so well.
 
Xorkoth said:
Wow, for me, 2C-E is among the deepest and most powerful psychedelics of all psychedelics (not just the 2C-Xs). I find it by far the most worthwhile of all the 2C-Xs, 2C-B and 2C-I are both kind of shallow candy sort of psychedelics to me. Not entirely shallow but com[pared to 2C-E there is no depth or power. 2C-E has given me a full ego death experience and every time I take it I find the experience difficult, but immensely worthwhile.

Do you require high doses of 2C-E? I have heard others say it's shallow for them too, and they are reporting very high doses (30-50mg). Whereas for those of us who find it deep and powerful, the dose is far lower. For example the most intensely psychedelic experience I ever had (my +4 ego death on 2C-E), I took 18mg orally. Even 8-10mg will be a trip that surprises me with its intensity. I am guessing you're one of the ones who falls into the camp of needing a lot and finding it pretty shallow/trivial. Strange how differently different individuals react to 2C-E. I can't imagine ever describing 2C-E as a novelty, and then describing 2C-I as the real gem in the series. For me it's the opposite.
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No way is 2ce swallow!

I do agree it is almost to intense and quite powerful, yes yes . I've taken upwards towards 25-28mg in my days and found it to be almost too much lol. I put it right up there with 5meoDMT .

I wouldn't say I is the gem, I do think that throne belongs to B :) I just found I more enjoyable out of E or P . I wouldn't suggest anyone new to psychedelics to start with E, but that would've been 10 years or more when it was really around. I think they're good to try a few times and thats about it lol. 2tc7 I would say is a gem as well


EDIT: oh yeah i see a few of you mentioning that body load.... might be the worse outta the group. Anyone remember taking P and thinking wow this takes foreverrrr


"Only a psychonaut could see love in vomit. Some of my deepest thoughts about the universe were triggered by looking into a toilet."

LMAO



found god in a tomato


GearoftheYear said:
2c-e is a proper psychedelic for me even at a low dose, extremely strong visuals and headspace. It's closer to the likes of 2c-t-2/2c-t-7. At high doses it is one to remember.
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I would have to agree with you on this. Definitely a trip
 
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I mean I agree 2C-B is more recreational and enjoyable than 2C-E, but when I think of a psychedelic gem, I think of something deep and powerful, hence why I think of 2C-E as the biggest gem of the series. However it is not always fun and basically always has at least one difficult period for me during each trip. I think of 2C-B as candy, something to take to get euphoric, see visuals, have a good time. Whereas 2C-E is something to take to shift my perception of reality.
 
Xorkoth said:
I mean I agree 2C-B is more recreational and enjoyable than 2C-E, but when I think of a psychedelic gem, I think of something deep and powerful, hence why I think of 2C-E as the biggest gem of the series. However it is not always fun and basically always has at least one difficult period for me during each trip. I think of 2C-B as candy, something to take to get euphoric, see visuals, have a good time. Whereas 2C-E is something to take to shift my perception of reality.
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I hear what you're saying and I don't doubt its truth. I think I'm in the minority but for me, so far, I haven't found the "more serious" psychedelics to be more opening, or insight inducing. In fact I've found almost the opposite of what others have said. Chemicals that some people call "light and recreational" are what have given me my most meaningful trips. Why? Maybe it's because my psychology has put up such a barrier that I need a kinder gentler touch: When everything seems easy, beautiful, full of love, my guard is let down and I get a brief peek at the universe for what it is. I see something that, otherwise, I would have been too constricted to perceive. My mind is blown.

Maybe one day that will change for me. Last time I tried 2c-e was about 10 years ago and I was someone else back then. I think I'll wait another 10 years or so before trying 2c-e again: I'll surely be yet another someone else by then and, perhaps, ready to receive what it has to give.
 
Listening said:
I hear what you're saying and I don't doubt its truth. I think I'm in the minority but for me, so far, I haven't found the "more serious" psychedelics to be more opening, or insight inducing. In fact I've found almost the opposite of what others have said. Chemicals that some people call "light and recreational" are what have given me my most meaningful trips. Why? Maybe it's because my psychology has put up such a barrier that I need a kinder gentler touch: When everything seems easy, beautiful, full of love, my guard is let down and I get a brief peek at the universe for what it is. I see something that, otherwise, I would have been too constricted to perceive. My mind is blown.

Maybe one day that will change for me. Last time I tried 2c-e was about 10 years ago and I was someone else back then. I think I'll wait another 10 years or so before trying 2c-e again: I'll surely be yet another someone else by then and, perhaps, ready to receive what it has to give.
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It would be cool to do pharmacogenetic testing of people who've done lots of different substances and survey them to what kinds of effects they have and see what kind of correlations there are with metabolic enzyme and receptor variants. Maybe someday we could even use gene therapy to insert variants that make psychedelics have more of the effects we like lol
 
I have yet to try 2C-E. It seems super rare these days. Everyone seems to like 2C-B. I mean, that's cool, but I haven't seen 2C-P around either. 2C-E sounds like it's one of those deeper phens. I want those types of psychedelics.

I would say each person has their own drug of choice(s). They affect people with variation. I've had profound trips on both deep and shallow psychedelics. It is interesting once you try enough of them and at high doses, there really is such a thing as headspace and how it is affected differently according to the trip, what you took, how much, and what your mindset is.
 
Man I should....ex flushed a gram of this along with 90 grams of MXE

What I would give to have those ....the combo I only got to try once but it was real!y wild....would of been even deeper if I hadnt taken so much klonopin..... that's back when I waz getting the 2mg Roche straight from Europe by the hundred

I know I ended up in rehab shortly after all that went down, but my addict brain says I could control micelf nowadays 😁
 
I had some a few years ago and when I had my friend hold onto my collection while I was moving, he lost it all. Later I found out from someone else that he had actually sold it. He was always a shitty friend anyway, despite me always doing tons of MXE, MDMA, and 2C-B, among others with him and his GF, and never asking for money in return.

Fucking tragic though as I had some rare stuff in there that I never got to try and never might get to try now. 2C-E, 2C-P, DOM, and DOC. :( Thankfully I at least took the 2C-C and 2C-D with me, and some of the others I had have since resurfaced.
 
For those with the experience-Does 2C-Es tolerance share more similarities with outliers like 2C-B or is it more similar to classical psychedelics tolerance?
 
sin_is_synthetic said:
For those with the experience-Does 2C-Es tolerance share more similarities with outliers like 2C-B or is it more similar to classical psychedelics tolerance?
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More like acid in my experience. You *can* trip on it back to back days, but not without pushing the dose and experiencing weaker effects with possibly more side effects. Best if you wait a month between trips in my opinion, or a week minimum. But have I tripped on Thursday and again on Saturday? Sure
 
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