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The Big & Dandy 2C-D Thread

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15mg (plugged) was quite enough for my first little taste laste night. Next time I will be a lil less cautious cos it was very nice. Definitely an interesting one - did amazing things to music and I got the impression that things would get very wobbly indeed for me at higher doses :D.
 
How long did it last plugged? I just had a 2C-C experience that was couldn't of been more than 2 hours total duration plugged, so I'm little afraid 2C-D plugged might be even shorter than that. It's kind of been one of the reasons I haven't tried it. It's hard to get psychedelic work done in an hours time.
 
Yeah, it's probably that 2C-C's peak is only about an hour long. I've heard that in some trip reports. I was actually astounded by how short it was. I'm glad 2C-D will probably be longer.
 
A word of warning: if you're going to plug 2CD in 30+ mg doses, be prepared for a rocket ride. It hits you (me) like a freight train...I have to lay down as it comes on the trip is so strong (in a good way). If you're not comfortable with the transition to the psychedelic state, then I'd suggest eating this one instead (to slow the transition down a little).

or, what worked very well with 2CE (on FB's good advice) was to stagger the rectal dose over the course of an hour (every 15-20 minutes squirt some up there.
 
2C-D is seriously special. I wish I had some more. :( Haven't done a phenethylamine in forever TBH, but really 2C-D is one of only a few PEAs that I think are really special.
 
Roger&Me said:
2C-D is seriously special. I wish I had some more. :( Haven't done a phenethylamine in forever TBH, but really 2C-D is one of only a few PEAs that I think are really special.
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2c-d is easily my favorite psychedelic... by a long shot <3

I really think it shines up in the 80 to 120mg+ region, though, whenever I've dosed that high it has always been with some tolerance, so I don't know how intense it would be to take a large dose like that out of the blue.

I agree with Gaian Planes. Plug 30mg or more, and you're in for an intense rocket ride. For me, 40mg plugged was so intense that I was almost floored and nearly freaked out from the shear intensity of it all. It almost seems that when you plug 2c-d, it is nearly 3 times stronger than an equivalent oral dose... but, the experience seems to lack something by this method, so I almost always prefer oral dosing.

I love the duration. I took 60mg when I went to see Roger Waters last summer, and the duration of the experience was perfect for the concert. I took the dose just as I got to the parking lot, and I was almost completely back to baseline once the concert was over. Couldn't ask for a better fit, lol.
 
^I'd say you would evetually induce tolerance, though it could simply platuea out. Take care when using psychedelics as an antidepressant, I must add....the benefits can be short lived and reverse pretty quick. YMMV. FWIW, I'd say 10mg's getting slightly towards the psychedelic realm for 2C-D. I've found at that dose or maybe 15mgs, I start getting fuzzy visuals; mainly trails and the slight patterning. In no way threatening but I can imagine if in a serious environemnt, it ould be a bit. Take care....:)
 
if you keep your doses small and just use it for the anti-depressant effects that last days afterwards, then tolerance won't develop so fast. Strangely, I found the anti-depressant action of phenethylamines and tryptamines to not be increased that much with an increase in dosage.

You should explore DMT for its anti-depressant properties. It works very well in low (5-15mg) doses every day. Tolerance doesn't really build at all at those levels.

I'm not recommending somebody that is clinically depressed to abandon their meds and smoke DMT. That would probably be a recipe for disaster. But, if you're in a 'funk' (especially existential funk), then DMT could be the ticket out for you.

Its going to of course be up to you to do with the chemical stimulation what you will. Its all about implementing small changes (sit in the sun, eat healthy foods, meditate, surround yourself with positive people, etc etc).

Good luck!
 
Ask nanobrain if he's still around these parts, he ate T-21 daily for a really long period.
 
they did a study on 2cd and nootropic effects. they found that it was a very good nootropic drug at small doses. i cant find it right now tho...

ive been real interested in this one for a while. how does it mix with 2ce or 2cp?
 
At first I found this drug to be somewhat boring after a couple of trips at 30 and 80 mg, but then a couple of weeks ago, I tried it at about 130 mg. and I must say I'm pretty impressed. For me it was as deep as 2C-E, but lacked most of the nasty side-effects I get from 2C-E (nausea, bodyload etc.). It felt very bright and clear, way deeper than 2C-B, but not as dirty as 2C-E. This substance defienitely has potential :)
 
Well, this 2C-D stuff is rapidly becoming a favourite of mine :)

Have tried most MOAs so far (smoked, oral, plugged and IV) and it's been a winner everytime. Differences I've noted between MOAs are quite minimal really. Obviously smoking it is not a good idea - wasteful and no good for your lungs - but I usually chase a lil on the foil of any new batch of *substance* to see how clear it runs and get a taste for it. Much like smoking MDMA - works fine, but far from ideal. Oral surprised me at the distinct lack of nausea cos phen-stuff and my guts don't generally mix well. Had no problems with 2C-D. Plugging - as ever - was a favourite due to swift come-up/comedown and reduced dose. IV was a bit special, but not to all tastes and not something I would make a habit of or recommend to others. Duration and effects have been very similar for oral and plugged - 4-6 hours - whilst IV and smoked are obviously much briefer.

To me, this is probably the "gentlest" 2Cx that I've sampled - even gentler that 2C-C for me as the peak from 2C-C was pretty intense. I find little to no bodyload, a pleasantly clear - whilst still spangled - mind and a great energy. Does seem to give me a bit of a headache after a while and some muscle tenseness, but that may well be cos I should get up and shake a lil tailfeather a bit more to work out excess energy.

I've not gone into very high doses yet, but will look into it as I become more familiar with the territory. I do find some over-stimulation as the dose goes up, but a good tailfeather-shaking would probably deal with that again. Probably only gone up to around the 50mg mark or thereabouts, although that would be in divided doses. I find redosing seems to work fine for me. Presumably only up to a point. I also found little or no tolerance developed after 3 consecutive nights of moderate use. Time for a rest now though - don't want to be pushing my luck.

I'm finding it great for a few things I need to work on/out for myself at the moment. I find the phen-stuff to work wonders for emotional issues of any description. More a gentle nudge than a hell and back ego-death, but I don't see that as a problem myself - is what I need and it's doing a fine job :)

Also, the effect it has on music is just utterly unique and so very special. I'd take the stuff for no other reason than to listen to music if it weren't quite so decadent to do so. Quite likes me a bit of decadence though...
 
^ really enjoyed playing guitar while indulging in it :)

Find your estimate of 4-6 hours surprising, though - always found it running out of steam around the 2 hour mark and gone by 3 :(
 
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