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The Big & Dandy 2C-D Thread

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Samahdi Smiles,

I've not posted in a while. Been taking a long well needed break from researching, but will likely be taking a few excursions this summer. Of course 2cd is at the top of my list of things to work with since it's my favorite of the phens so far.

From my previous posts, I am also a huge fan of using 2cd rectally. However, I've only doses as high as around 35mg before when plugging it. I also got a VERY strong +3 from it at this dose.

You mention wanting to try doses at 45-50mg and then 60-70mg rectally. Please be careful ramping up your dose so rapidly. I think 2cd has an extremely steep dose response curve when plugging it. From my experiences and others I've read of high oral doses, I see no reason why it wouldn't be physically safe at these levels, but I'll bet it will be a hell of a ride. =D I would definitely go with 45mg before trying it much higher.

Please post back of your future experiments. I'd be very interested in knowing how high you go with this when plugging it and what you think of the higher doses. While not nearly as deep as 2ce, I found that at 35mg plugged, it was starting to become an extremely 'immersive' experience. The comeup is extremely fast and euphoric for me when plugging this compound.

-gp
 
I'm thinking 75-100mg rectal will be desirable for complete ego dissolution and merging with the 2CD bars and stars.

This one reminds me of 2CB in that it feels TOTALLY physically safe. Of course, that very well may not be the case, and of course the 'ramping up' process will take some time (lots of time since I'm out of material atm!).

The comeup was slightly dysphoric for me (but this could of been due to the fact that it was my first experience with the chem (reminiscent of 5-MeO-DMT 'getting to know' dysphoria).
 
I've snorted up to 10mg of 2C-D before, and once 20mg in a 6-hour period. I became extremely euphoric and talkative, and my mind was working like a well-oiled machine. It was a very powerful feeling, approaching mania at some point, but also very focused. There were no visuals and a very pleasurable body buzz. This was in the midst of significant phenethylamine tolerance, though.

I regret not saving some for a full rectal dose, though. I suppose at some point it will line itself up.
 
Ximot said:
2C-D and methylone work well, 2C-D ingested 3-4 hours beforehand. Though I have only tried this at 10mg 2C-D followed by a full dose of M1.
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this turned out to be a better combo then I expected! years ago I gave up on mixing methylone with anything other then MBDB (which is a whole other story and magical experience worthy of its own post) .. I had a very disappointing experience with M1 + 2C-I. however, 2C-D has a much more gentle nature and mixed rather well the methylone. due to phenethylamines being generally stimulating in nature I would love to try a 2C-D + bk-MDE combo (E1 is the least stimulating beta-ketone entactogen I have tried) , but I think my chances of that happening are near zero. has anyone else tried 2C-D+M1 or 2C-D+E1?? very curious about results.
 
have you tried M1 in combo with 2CB? Thats great from personal experience as well as anecdotal reports. If you've tried this combo how would you say it compares to 2CD and M1 combo?
 
So 2CD is colorful and fun like 2CB but deeper mentally?
I find that even 2CE at dosages where I felt somewhat schizophrenic, most of the experience I was very clear minded and never confused like you can get on things like mushrooms.
 
2C-D has some nice visuals, but it is not quite as colorful as 2C-B. On the other hand, the sheer lack of 'content' with 2C-B makes 2C-D far more preferable. That, and the short duration. None of the 2Cs (in my experience) carry with them the confusion of LSD or mushrooms....one of the many reasons why I vastly prefer the PEAs over the indoles/tryptamines.

styrofoamned said:
So 2CD is colorful and fun like 2CB but deeper mentally?
I find that even 2CE at dosages where I felt somewhat schizophrenic, most of the experience I was very clear minded and never confused like you can get on things like mushrooms.
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2CD was much more visual than 2CB but I have not taken 2CB up to a very high dose (only 12mg rectal).

2CD is a good chemical if you like writhing on the floor in ecstasy and seeing lots of patterns crawl over everything.
 
do tell us how it goes! I'm also getting to try this wonderful phen again! I think I might take 100mg of it orally! I've been searching for a phen ego death trip.
 
Hmm... 2C-D is definitely not the first thing I'd go for when I think about Ego death... in fact I think a lot of its "safe" feeling is that it is completely non-threatning to the ego, thus allowing for infinite introspection through the ego.

Btw, 2C-D has very unique visuals for me... and it was one of the few substances that ever gave me glimpses of OEVs. Its visuals are reminicent of vector graphics, actually, with lots of rings, squares, and lines. Very unlike the "topographic map" visuals of 2C-I and the "clockwork" of 2C-C. All in all, the 2Cs I've tried are visually simplistic (although quite fascinating) compared to the visuals of, say, LSD.

Examples:

2C-D:
bittbox.jpg


2C-I:
mtmarcySm.jpg


2C-C:
clockwork.jpg
 
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Your first picture is not currently showing to get an idea what you mean re: 2C-D.

I usually get tons of OEVs with 2C-D - it doesn't even take very much, 26mg will do. The way I generally see things is in patches of color, similar to a very elaborate, constantly moving "paint-by-numbers" painting. I haven't seen it for a while, but I remember thinking that the movie Waking Life was sort of similar in its overall effect. Perhaps it is similar to what you've noted. Once things wind down a bit, I tend to see everything as it is except with a lot of movement based on things' various textures and/or patterns.

We are simultaneously editing! :) I have seen the incredibly colorful, elaborate clockwork on 2C-C also! That picture doesn't quite do it justice, of course, I was curled up in a ball crying from the visual intensity of it.

I think we may react similarly to these things visually.
 
Hehe, indeed. It doesn't take much of 2C-D to show visuals, I agree. But I generally am one of those people insensitive OEVs, especially with Tryptamines (with the exception of DPT). The 2Cs are pretty easy to "catch" an OEV on right before my mind erases it...

LSD is quite different, as its "visuals" tend to always be 100% synaesthetic with the whole sensorium, and are totally immersive.

I can see the first pic from my PC. Let me know if it keeps not showing.
 
yeah I'm not sure what I was thinking a little while ago saying I wanted an ego death trip. I think what I meant to say is I want a very strong phen trip, since I've never had one that was REALLY strong (in the sense that I've had strong tryptamine trips).
 
It's a lot more intricate than this, but the drawing of the figure in this shot gives an idea of how I see things on 2C-D:

downey1.jpg


I see many, many more gradations, and they are constantly shifting and moving, colors dissolving into one another, but that is the gist of it, a world defined by solid, alive patches of color. Looking at flesh (faces!) is just endlessly fascinating.


* edit * OK, I can see that picture now. I think I might need to take more 2C-D (I've only tried up to 40mg oral) and get back to you. That picture is pretty far out! I get what you mean about the 2C's being more OEV oriented, though 2C-C at its best (and at not-so-high doses, 36mg tops) has been more a CEV, inwardly profound sort of thing for me. That's when I saw the clockwork - I was in fetal position on the landing to my stairs next to my wife taking a bath; slack-jawed at all the spinning gears and cogs of colors I'd never seen before on any Pantone color chart!. :)
 
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2c-d question: i'll likely only have a 50mg dose. according to erowid, this is a "common/strong" dose, & my source tells me 50 is just fine for a full-on trip, yet i see people calling it nothing but a nootropic at that dose...?

goodness, i am EXCITED for this chem! andycandy's report sure helped with that. most reports on both 2c-d & it's amphetamine homologue (DOM) sound beautiful! i plan to take my 2c-d solo... maybe outdoors. :] what do you guys think - night trip or day trip?
 
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