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The Big & Dandy 2C-C Thread

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HofmannBlotter said:
So how you would describe the body load for 2C-X ? Are these on the side of cardiovascular stimulant or just body like nausea or something ?
I'm very thin 42.5kg =\ I got Tyhrroid syndrom so that's normal but i'm healthy in my way you know. Do you have any insights about this ?
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IME it varies between the 2cx as far as body load goes and even further there it varies between dosage and repeated exposure. To generalize though...

2ct2, 2ct7 and 2ce have had the most significant body load for me. This has included a fair degree of nausea persisting throughout the trip as well as muscle tension and tremors.

I have experienced muscle tension on 2ci and 2cp and sort of a lingering stimulation occasionally causing a crash and/or hangovers.

2cb and 2cc have been by far the most side effect free 2cx's with 2cb occasionally causing some slight tremoring.

I'd have water on hand for all of them but I haven't noticed any significant heart palpitations or uncomfortably raised heart rate from any of them.
 
guerillabedlam said:
I'd have water on hand for all of them but I haven't noticed any significant heart palpitations or uncomfortably raised heart rate from any of them.
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None? With 2cb I experienced at low 8mg (with 2-3 cups of wine) a noticeable increment of heart rate similar to marijuana accompanied of slight chill tremors.
 
Marijuana does not affect my heart rate...
i don't see this as valid.



HofmanBlotter
Just do not vape the 2c-X compounds and you should be okay. As I've noticed smoking it seems to create an increased heart-rate in the monkeys that they do not receive from other means. However this has only been noted when vaporized in large amounts at a time ~3+mg 2cp and ~10mg+ 2c-c
You've gotta take it slow during this method for sure.

Since you have 2c-C now, which does not seem to be very stimulating I don't think you have much to fear and you could easily go into the ~50mg range (oral of course, assuming that's your method) if you wanted to as this seems to be the hotspot for my monkeys, I would be careful with 2c-I if you ever try that one though, 2c-P as well, I do not know about 2c-E since I vaporized 12mg at once and it was quite instantaneous and crazy and very hard to explain what happened.

It's all up to you,
but 2c-C seems fairly safe, just don't go too crazy with it.
 
I had a friend of mine try 2C-C on a couple occasions recently and I'm completely dumbfounded by the results. 8o

First trial - I gave him 35mg. No effect reported after 45 minutes. Gave him another 25mg - Still little to no effect. (total dosage of 60mg)

Second trial - We tried again a little over a week later. Dosed him at 100mg. Some minor physical effects were felt. He described feeling "somewhat high", but not any different from what he normally experiences after sleep deprivation. No pupil dilation at all.

For a lot of people, 100mg would be a completely ego-shattering experience. I consider myself to have high tolerance and typically find 60 - 65mg to be a perfectly adequate dose for recreational tripping. Meanwhile, I have another friend who has on one occasion seen her childhood memories pass by her in vivid detail after taking only 27mg. That's some pretty crazy variation.

A few details about my friend...
-he is not on any medications
-he has never done any other drugs (save caffeine)
-he does not have any apparent mental disorders
-he weighs around 230 lbs.
-he is 1/3rd Native American
-he says he often sees CEVs while sober, perhaps more than other people, and especially while tired.

Any thoughts on his case? Sounds more like immunity than tolerance.
Is it likely that he has more MAO enzymes than normal? Or something else maybe?
MAOIs make me nervous, so hopefully we won't have to resort to that.

We'll probably let him try a tryptamine or LSD next time and see if that yields better results.
 
Devourer said:
Marijuana does not affect my heart rate...
i don't see this as valid.
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Really? Cannabis (& synthetic cannabinoids) pretty reliably raise pulse rate in most individuals

HofmannBlotter said:
So then how stimulating / speedy (if you took them orally) are 2C-D, 2C-I, 2C-E, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-4 if you have tried them ? (I mean in terms of Heart or tension) (I tried 2C-C for the first time, I don't know if my heart rate increased but It doesn't seem. I would like to increase the dosage of 2C-C as my girlfriend want too but I'm unaware it will raise our tension / heart rate highly or decrease it even worse with the sedating effect.
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I've tried all the ones you mentioned there aside from t4. There tends to be some variability between persons & to what degree they experience various effects & side effects of 2c-x's (this is true for many other drugs as well). In my opinion 2c-c was easily the least stimulating, followed by 2c-p. I always felt surprisingly relaxed on 2c-p, but this isn't the case for everyone. 2c-d & 2c-e i would tend to feel mentally stimulated, not so much physically though. 2c-i i found to be easily the most physically stimulating one, with 2c-t-2 a not terribly close second,. On 2c-t-2, 2c-e, & 2c-d i usually feel perfectly capable of relaxing. On 2c-c & 2c-p i feel almost forced to relax.

777xog said:
I had a friend of mine try 2C-C on a couple occasions recently and I'm completely dumbfounded by the results. 8o

First trial - I gave him 35mg. No effect reported after 45 minutes. Gave him another 25mg - Still little to no effect. (total dosage of 60mg)

Second trial - We tried again a little over a week later. Dosed him at 100mg. Some minor physical effects were felt. He described feeling "somewhat high", but not any different from what he normally experiences after sleep deprivation. No pupil dilation at all.

For a lot of people, 100mg would be a completely ego-shattering experience. I consider myself to have high tolerance and typically find 60 - 65mg to be a perfectly adequate dose for recreational tripping. Meanwhile, I have another friend who has on one occasion seen her childhood memories pass by her in vivid detail after taking only 27mg. That's some pretty crazy variation.

A few details about my friend...
-he is not on any medications
-he has never done any other drugs (save caffeine)
-he does not have any apparent mental disorders
-he weighs around 230 lbs.
-he is 1/3rd Native American
-he says he often sees CEVs while sober, perhaps more than other people, and especially while tired.

Any thoughts on his case? Sounds more like immunity than tolerance.
Is it likely that he has more MAO enzymes than normal? Or something else maybe?
MAOIs make me nervous, so hopefully we won't have to resort to that.

We'll probably let him try a tryptamine or LSD next time and see if that yields better results.
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I dunno if i'd say 100mg of 2c-c would be ego shattering, but certainly a wild ride =D 2c-c does seem, in my experience anyway, to have a bit more variability in dosage than the other 2c's. I don't get a whole lot out of it until i get to ~60mg or so. I have a couple friends that find 20-45mg more than adequate as well. One friend didn't feel anything at all after swallowing 25 & 35mg, but got where he was wanting to go and some after insufflating ~15mg. I'd say before pushing the dose to ridiculous levels, might wanna try another roa, with a greatly decreased dosage, just in case. And as is the case sometimes, some people just don't respond well to certain drugs. I'd avoid MAOI potentiation outside the world of tryptamines, FWIW.
 
I find even small little lines/bumps ~5mg seem to get me pretty floaty and feel good with this compound, two of these and the OEV's start.

Added a 4-MEC touch to it though today, it's niceee
 
Is 2c-D not weaker than 2c-C?

I'd try it but seeing as how 2c-D is so weak I don't know if I'd ever want to fork out the cash for it.
(Since all 2c's seem to be the same price per gram)

Besiiiides why would I stray away from my new found best combo everrrr.
2c-C + 4-MEC <3
 
IMO they're roughly equipotent. Though i enjoy low doses of 2c-d more than low doses of 2c-c. Low doses of 2c-c leave me feeling a little bored & disinterested, whereas low doses of 2c-d put a big cheesy grin on my face =)

On the whole i find 2c-d a bit more interesting mentally, and i usually just use 2c-c for good times. Wouldn't say either is better or worse, they both have their places.
 
I'm thinking about tossing 15mg of this into a capsule with 100mg of methylone and 150mg of mephedrone. Anyone have any thoughts on this combo? If the above poster is having a good synergy with 4-MEC I foresee this being a good mix...
 
Well 2C-C and 2C-D are cheapier than the others for me (in price) so :P That's why I wanna give it a try :) And we have a gram to play with so ! :D We want to progress very slowy, 2C-C -> 2C-D -> 2C-I -> 2C-E -> 2C-P -> 2C-T2 -> 2C-T-4 -> 2C-T-7 and so... :P
 
HofmannBlotter said:
Well, my gf was quite disapointed, give her 20mg oral, barely feel nothing :( She was like she will fall asleep but still awake... Very faint OEV (bed breathing) but very minor. This stuff requires high dosage :(

I don't if it was due to the tap water which destroy the compound (the chemical stay at least 1 hour maximum in tap water) or the fact that we trip on 4-HO-MET the 19th August or maybe underdosed :\ Dunno !
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Just tried this with my gf at the wekend. We both bombed 30mg. We had never had any 2c before.

She got nothing! Nothing at all.

I felt the change in my body about 3-4mins after ingesting which I thought was placebo but it wasnt because the feeling grew into a very nice mellow buzz in about 30mins but by 1 hour the feeling had totally gone.

I was totally disappointed.

3hrs later went to bed and immediately started getting CEV`s which were faint at first but grew. I had read that there weren`t any real visuals with this stuff but for the next 3 hours I was giving my gf a running commentary on what I was seeing.

It was beautiful. Like lsd light but so very smooth. Colours, geometric patterns blues greens. I lay with shut eyes for about 3 hrs then looked about the room and I was getting melting curtains that looked like they were made of rubber.

Went for a pee at one point and thought I was in the toilet on a boat as the toilet and the water in the toilet pan was swaying from side to side.

GF was totally pissed off at the running commentary lol

A truly beautiful but light experience.

When I say `light` I mean visually and I didnt really get the euphoric body feeling that some mention.

No way could I go out on this until I get much more used to it. Go out to a pub I mean!

Felt great next day no come down whatsoever.

Gf still reported no effects whatsoever.
 
^ many people seem to need 55-65mg to get to where they wanna go with 2c-c, i'm certainly in this category. I've had a few friends find it perfectly worthwhile @ the 35-45mg range & at least a couple friends enjoy around 25mg. Seems a bit more variable than some other 2c-x's. I'd be hesitant to recommend your girlfriend immediately double the dose, but i wouldn't think 45-50mg would be too much of a jump. 2c-c does seem less likely, in my opinion anyway, to be likely to cause a freakout.
 
About a year ago myself, as well as my girlfriend at the time and a friend all took 45mg orally of this substance. Effects were very strange. Not at all overpowering. It felt a lot like a sub-psychedelic opium. Really lazy shit. At one point we decided to go on an adventure and started walking up the river we were at. After What's seemed like forever we finally stopped. I turned around and saw That we'd only.come.about 300 yards lol.

Then the other day I plugged 20mg, though along with 11mg MXE. Holy shit. I tripped harder than i ever have in my entire life. I'm a bit confused by This. I didn't feel the laziness that was so obvious in my previous experience. It didn't feel a thing like my previous encounter. My skin felt like an orgasm and I couldn't sit still for a second. I was on the verge of a freakout but thankfully for the MXE and a friend I remained sane. Also this was the first time I saw the yellow submarine. Wtf.

Anyway, with that in mind, what is the multiplication factor for 2cc When administered rectally? And How can I reach a similar state orally?
 
I find this is one of the few 2c's that I will actually put up the sniffer. I mean I have insufflated a few 2c's but the pain for me just ruins the whole experience. With 2c-c though the pain is pretty minimal and twenty milligrams puts me in a very nice state, quite mdma like but much more intellectual and extremely relaxing. I personally like to cuddle up in a nice soft blanket and gaze on the stars with this particular compound.

On a side note this compound goes exceedingly well with LSD. I snorted 20 mgs on about 150 mics of LSD and I was in bliss. The visuals were quite intense but never too much and there was definitely a feeling of being connected to something much grander than me throughout the trip. It was quite an amazing experience to say the least.
 
Thanks thats very helpful information. I am indeed the kind of (lucky) person who geats great strength from small amounts!

that was in reply to....^ many people seem to need 55-65mg to get to where they wanna go with 2c-c, i'm certainly in this category. I've had a few friends find it perfectly worthwhile @ the 35-45mg range & at least a couple friends enjoy around 25mg. Seems a bit more variable than some other 2c-x's. I'd be hesitant to recommend your girlfriend immediately double the dose, but i wouldn't think 45-50mg would be too much of a jump. 2c-c does seem less likely, in my opinion anyway, to be likely to cause a freakout

from Any Major Dude
 
Speaking personally as someone with fairly high natural tolerance...
60-65 mg is a perfect recreational dose for me - always fun, never difficult
I have taken it up to 100mg. Less recreational. Feels characteristically different.

Meanwhile I have a couple other friends with much lower tolerance...
A dose of only 27mg had one of them recalling childhood memories in incredible vivid detail
A dose of 55mg could be considered a mental "overdose" for her - complete ego loss and intense visuals

And I have yet another friend who dosed at 100mg and experienced nothing more than what he typically gets from sleep deprivation.

Just some food for thought^
Starting on the low side is always good, but I'd say it's worth trying. It's my favorite 'recreational' psychedelic :)
You just have to find your right dose. (unless your "right dose" happens to be some prohibitively expensive amount).
 
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