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The Big & Dandy 2C-C Thread

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You really like -C better than -E?

I've got -I, and I finished off my -P a while ago.
So far in this class I like -I best, but I have only had a taste of -E, so is it really better, and how?
 
You really like -C better than -E?

I've got -I, and I finished off my -P a while ago.
So far in this class I like -I best, but I have only had a taste of -E, so is it really better, and how?

"Better" is very subjective. I wouldn't consider any of them "Better" than each other, just different. C is a lot more easily enjoyable than E. But C is a lot shorter. The visuals are also, very different.
 
You really like -C better than -E?

I've got -I, and I finished off my -P a while ago.
So far in this class I like -I best, but I have only had a taste of -E, so is it really better, and how?

IMO 2c-c is enjoyable but fairly shallow and visually unimpressive. The same applies to 2c-i but it is a little more mentally altering and more visual than 2c-c. But 2c-e definitely takes the cake so far (haven't tried P yet), in doses of 20-30mg it is absolutely insanely visual and incredibly mentally profound. I've seen more ego diminishing and totality-type experiences with 2c-e than any other 2c-x series chemical, by far. How it affects the individual is, of course, very variable.
 
I have read a few reports saying that 2C-C gets much more psychedelic at 100mg. Just wondering if anyone has experienced or heard about problems with body load when you go up that high? If 70mg is easily manageable for someone, would it be too much of a jump for them to go up to 100mg on the next trial?
 
I have read a few reports saying that 2C-C gets much more psychedelic at 100mg. Just wondering if anyone has experienced or heard about problems with body load when you go up that high? If 70mg is easily manageable for someone, would it be too much of a jump for them to go up to 100mg on the next trial?

I think that would be fine as long as you are familiar enough with the effects at 70mg. The most I had was I believe 65mg. Next will be 90mg. Might even bump it up to a dot (100mg).
 
I'd be careful...

Look here:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=85144

(2C-C:) Pihkal dose range: 20 - 40mg

If you have made it this far you might be wondering if a bomb is ever going to drop. Promise, it is coming.

With the iodo and ethyl there was no desire to push up the dosage. The body-load of the `I' was dissuading, and the potency of the `E' was plentiful. The mistake I resisted with `I' and `E' lurked around a nearby corner, waiting for me to `C' it.

The effects of 2C-C were nicely summarized in an online post as being akin to a psychedelic valium. Indeed, as indicated at the 40mg level in Pihkal, the drug is both relaxing and quite active. Experiences at 34, 40 and 45mg fit this description. Other than the down-tempo narcotic push of the chloro there was no detectable body-load.

Looking back it seems at least a little strange that doses lower than 34mg were not explored. I suppose my impression from reports had been (whether rightfully or wrongly) that the effects of dosages lower than that could be somewhat ambiguous. Perhaps when a visitor decided to take 35mg and pissed their pants, completely faced, it might have tipped me off to the potential potency of this compound given the right circumstances (i.e. someone else's body) or stupidities (my own).

It can be hard to see the thing you are looking for when it is directly in front of your face...

At 34mg the visuals presented casually. Swaying oriental patterns flowed in and out of surfaces, off of tress and light. Another six up to 40mg brought out definition in the textures, and the bump to 45mg was real for me, but by no means a jump.

Moving higher still I seemed to be far from my ceiling. With 50mg the room was dripping rainbows. The mid-fifties range appeared very docile and chill. A dose of 60mg produced Newton fractals and transformed the outdoors into alien-esque landscapes \textit(a la) 2C-E. Still there was an absence of body-load, the mellow push of the chloro lessening with the higher doses. I recall telling a close friend that there seemed to be great potential for the 2C-C. Concernedly expressing their disapproval, the fitting response I got was, ``potential for WHAT?'' They did not understand why there inherently had to be this thirst for... more. What was I really seeking under the guise of this claim to be ``probing deeper.'' Deeper into what? More is never enough. Unable to recognize the dualism...

There was nothing rational about what I did next. So much care had been exhibited with the other explorations, the decision that followed seems like an anomaly in reflection. But we all know what curiosity does to kitties. The 25% dosage increase that scared the shit out of me with 2C-E didn't even elicit a flinch when 75mg of 2C-C went down the hatch. By no means did the reports of doses this high serve to dissuade me. I mean, dripping rainbows, Newton fractals, let's go! W-R-O-N-G. Wrong wrong wrong. So fucking wrong.

Casually inhaling some of the dentist's delight, less than twenty minutes after eating the dose, the visuals hit me over the back of the head. From the periphery of my field of vision the colors crashed in towards the center of my gaze. I could tell I was in for a ride, but had not even considered that the super-fast come-up might be an indication of anything horribly atypical. We were just sitting around hanging out... when things began to get out of hand.

First with the profuse sweating. Then the shivering and chills. Then both simultaneously. Clearly the chemical was not agreeing with me physically; but the possibility that I might disagree with it mentally had not yet entered my mind. And then...

Sitting on the couch staring blankly down towards my knees my vision began to magnify, transforming the corduroy on my pants from medium width to super-jumbo sized. Glancing up at my hands they appeared like blown-up latex gloves, ballooning. Everything was magnified by a factor of three or four. The absurdity of the effect was a kick to the face. As colors swirled, prismatic mosaics engulfing the room, the painting on my retina seemed to be layering new insanities on top of the old ones, dancing further and further away from the recognizably analog. The visual world had been transformed purely into a digitized comic book, inhabited by pixilated cartoon creatures with massive bulging tumors protruding out of their necks and heads, all of which I was seeing as if through an optical microscope.

That was my first full blown encounter with the fear.

There had been prior flirtations; a handful of respectable interactions. But when the fear decides that the line has been crossed, there is nothing respectable about the intra-personal apocalypse that ensues.

Were it not for the presence of three incredible people who provided the single fraying thread of reality-yarn at which to grasp, I can only imagine. Friends are pretty amazing. Thank you so much guys. I can't thank them enough.

Curled in the fetal position on a friend's bed, another cuddling me from behind, battling what seemed like the imminent disaster of urinating all over myself, my friend and the bed... The intensity of the mirage and the bodily discomfort increased in tandem. Even the closed eye visuals were somehow markedly magnified; it was too much to handle. What had I done to myself? This state did not feel solely hallucinogenic; the fear screamed in my ears, berating me for having done something that felt so wrong as to seem irreversible. Piles of meaningless visual drivel rapidly fell from the sky, but never constructively cohered.

Already well over the edge, approximately three and a half hours in total were spent suspended in mid air. The extended duration curled up in a ball provided the priming for the climax of the trip---if you can call it that. Around hour three I found myself in an egg of sorts. Simultaneously I was seeing the view from inside the egg, as well as the view outside. Both worlds were still wildly metamorphosing when it occurred to me that it was very much like I had somehow become trapped inside of Dali's ``Geopoliticus Child Watching the Birth of a New Man,'' and was viewing myself struggling to get out of the egg. The realization that what I was experiencing could be connected to something outside of myself must have been what started to bring me down. Half an hour later, I was back to being communicable. After a full night's sleep I awoke to the cherished sobriety that had been exiled the previous eve. My psyche was deeply shaken but nothing had
physically been stirred beyond repair.

It was of great relief, though not a total surprise, when my vision began progressing back towards the preferred state of not being magnified. The relief of course cannot be overstated. For whatever reason, the magnification effect scared the living shit out of me. The feeling it kindled was entirely unnatural, mechanizing me to the point of artificiality. I was trapped in just three dimensions, no way to see outside of the box. There was nothing tangible or worthwhile to view in the hallucinogenic construct that surrounded me. Not to say it wasn't beautiful. Magnificent. But empty. Certainly the magnification of emptiness yields little new insight. Maybe the fear prevented me from finding value in the effect; it is debatable.

2C-C overview:

34 - 45mg: ++
50 - 60mg: ++.5
75mg: an immensely displeasurable +++
 
^^Hmm, thanks for posting that. It usually is a good idea to work up slowly, especially when you get to the high end of the dosing range. This is a good reminder of that.
 
^^ I hope everyone realizes the person who wrote those (great) experience reports and had a bad time at 75mg inhaled N2O.

I think that should be made clear.
 
^^ I hope everyone realizes the person who wrote those (great) experience reports and had a bad time at 75mg inhaled N2O.

I think that should be made clear.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Personally, I made the jump from 75mg to 100mg and had no regrets whatsoever. But then again, it sounds like my 100mg trip wasn't even near the strength of his 50mg trip. Rainbows dripping everywhere??? Alien landscapes??? I don't think any amount of 2C-C could get me that without fear of some bad body reaction happening first.

All the varied reports make it difficult to figure out what a good 'beginner' dose is...
I have a couple friends that I'd like to introduce to it, but I never know where to start. I don't want to underwhelm or overwhelm them. Ideally, I'd like them to have an experience like what I get from the 40-50mg range. They're both slightly overweight, whereas I'm pretty light. (145lb). In my case, weight doesn't seem to have much influence over tolerance.
 
A friend and I snorted 25mg 2C-C each. It was painful, but it was my most intense trip on this drug, and I've gone up to 67mg oral (diarrhea at this level made me loth to push higher). Now, every time we take 2C-C, we get that same feeling, a dusty tightness in our chests, and I have a vague sense of wrongness in my body. Still lovely stuff though.
 
Indeed, nitrous is going to intensify any trip in completely unpredictable ways. That trip report from erowid is not an indicator of what a normal 75mg dose would be like.
 
I'm still contemplating why my 2C-C trip yesterday so rapidly faded away. My dose was 50 mg, the batch is good and new (I had a good 4 hour trip with 50 mg on it a month ago). The come up was like usual, but when it really kicked in the real trip (with quite strong visuals) only lasted an hour and then rapidly faded away (like in 10 minutes) and I only had some tracers and the usual "objects moving" visuals for a couple of hours. Then it was completely gone. Smash. No afterglow (I only got an afterlow by taking MXE which boosted the afterglow a bit.

I took the powder orally (just shoved it in the mouth) on an empty stomach. I have two accurate milligram scales and weigh everything I take with both. There was not a dosage mistake.
 
I found 100mg one time to be comfortable and very LSD-like (but shorter). Solid but easygoing +++

I found 65mg another time to give me bad chills, some anxiety, overall feeling of "too much". Solid and somewhat difficult +++

45-50 mg is enough for a light +++ and I consider that the reasonable limits of this drug, without risking an uncomfortable experience.
 
40mg for me was quite a pleasant ride. though i must say in the peak it felt like it needed an extra nudge... perhaps it was too little a dose in the beginning... anyway, 10mg snorted didnt seem to get me anything extra for some reason (probably because i suck at snorting and ended up with the dust down my throat).

this is by far the most comfortable (bodyload wise) 2c ive taken, even compared with 2cb. intense relaxation comes to mind to describe the general body sensations.
does it maintain these calm qualities when combined? i can see this being useful to tone down a 2ci or e trip, which tend to be pretty stimmy for me.
also, i have a feeling this mixes really well with 2cd... 2cd feels a bit manic to me on its own, and this one is nice but seems to lack direction...
 
Just ordered a gram of 2c-c. How would you guys say this compares to shrooms? Does it give you a brain fry as bad as the mxe mini-binge I went on a couple weeks ago?
 
Not similar to shrooms or MXE at all. I find MXE to be quite refreshing on the brain after 1 dose. Although I'm sure if you binged on 2C-C you would experience some brain frying.
 
SO, two nights ago I dosed 100mg of this for my second experiment. I'm well versed with many others, but this blew me into the water. Completely off the wall. (:
 
^ I would love to try it at this dose and plan on it once I get 80mg under my belt. Highest I have gone is 65 I believe. 50mg already being a wonderful time for me.

I love this chem. For me, it's 2C-B without the 'in your face' body high that chills you out. The visuals, from what I have noticed, are like a 'sloppy' form of -B.
 
The visuals I had last night were web-like geometric rainbows and visions of light coming from inside me, then I experienced ego-loss and lived a perspective on a story told in no time sense. The experience seriously shook me, but the profundity of it all awarded itself well upon integration.
 
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