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The Big & Dandy 2C-C Thread

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is 15mg a good start for a nasal dose or is 20mg? or even more?

i dont care how bad it burns, i have snorted 2c-b many times and dont find it to be that bad.
 
^ I'd say 15-20mg would be plenty to submerse you in swirls. My nose's doses are similar and do the trick for me. Although I rarely leave it at the one line in a session and tend to cut it quite heavily with ketamine... but dosed alone I still go for that kinda range. As for the pain factor, some say it's one of the harshest 2Cs on the nose, others don't. At least it's a fairly brief burn compared with, say, 2C-E which provided a good (bad) hour of agony even after many a flushing out to try to soothe it. 2C-B is on the mild side for 2Cs too, in my opinion - I'd say they are of a similar pain level.

As an unrelated side note, tried a lil sample IV the other week (10-12mg if memory serves) mixed in with a shot of MDAI. Wowsers is all I have to say - ain't quite so subtle and sedating IV'd 8o
 
I dosed 25-30mg rectally and it propelled me to an extremely warm and fuzzy mental/body state, I felt the urge to leave the room where I stood with 2 friends, go to an empty room, turn the light off, go sit down on a corner, close my eyes and let the journey begin. Fascinating, because it seems to give the control and steering wheels to me, unlike other phens that I've tried... only 2C-D and 2C-C seem to do this.
 
I doubt it, I've heard of people getting anxious and worried because of alcohol + 2c-c regarding their breathing rate, but I don't think its physically sedative. Though, I'd keep the opiates for something else and keep psyches to psyches, y'know?
 
Hell yes you would.

60mg+ definitely puts me into a full on +++ trip.

2C-C's dosage scale is very odd though. For some people 30-40mg can be right on target, producing very psychedelic effects, and for others, they dont reach that spot until 50mg or so.

If you've never tried 2C-C, I suggest trying something like 30-40mg first, seeing how that is, and if its way below where you want to be, use the remaining amount to blast into 2C-C-land.
 
I finally came around to experiment with 2C-C. For me the come up isn't gentle. The first 60-90 minutes are a uncomfortable restless experience.

The drugs effects at the 30-35 mg level consist of the floating body feeling I came to associate with phenetylamines, and a slight 'trippy' distortion of visual and auditory input. Thinking is clear, maybe somewhat bent into a psychedelic mindset. No visuals worth mentioning.

Bottom line for me: 2C-C takes almost as much out of me as more powerful substances like for instance 2C-I would do, but without taking me somewhere interesting. I also felt strongly that upping the dose would be a waste, forcing something out of the compound that isn't there.

Edit: Oh yeah, I almost forgot. This chemical can be useful as a psychedelic aphrodisiac, one that doesn't fuck you up to much that is.
 
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Took 26mg of 2C-C today as myself and Winding Vines went for a 9 mile hike in front of the beautiful Boulder Mountains (outside Boulder Colorado). She had none, she wanted to be the babysitter.

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Oh my flipping goodness in sweet cereal with sprinkles it was a beautiful day!! So wonderful.

It came on like gang-busters...within 15 minutes; WV suggested I take a break and let my body get it's bearings. I was nervous about making the hike, and after "adjusting" slightly I found walking difficult, feeling like I wasn't actually present, and finding I had to consciously focus on moving my limbs. Though I soon gained control and started feeling REALLY good.

In the beginning, it was more like an alcoholic buzz with psychedelic overtones...I felt like I wasn't there but my mind was expanded and thoughts led to more and more, and then a tangent to another thought.

As the peak neared, I became clear-headed again. No real visuals except for color pastel shimmers over all I saw.

While amidst peaking, we camped for a snack and a bowl....that did it...sprinkled visuals became the foreground. I would see people hiking but they were really trees or shrubs. The tracers were intricate and intense. The after-image (tracer) was nearly a foot behind the physical, moving object.

When I peed, rainbow colors came from down there.

It felt so good the entire time! I was in awe of how natural and wonderful this phenethylamine is, and regret investing so much in 2C-D as a short-acting recreational psychedelic. In hind-sight, I feel this is the PEA that is best for general-purpose tripping.

Yeah, there is 2C-B but I just don't like that one....it's just not up to par for me.

The material also gave me bounds of energy as it was a 9 mile hike and I felt like I could have done more, that is until we got to the car and exhaustion hit me.

Oh man, I love 2C-C. I haven't tried it in a number of years and truly forgot how much I love it, how easy on the body it is, how clear-headed it is, how euphoric it is. I sing the praises!!!!I so regret not having more. As little as I trip, I'm sure I will be fine but when you love one that much it is always good to have enough for two life-times.

Sing the praises of 2C-C, the florescent green undertones, the modern chlorine look in the tracers, the intoxicating soporific respite though my thoughts, the clean feeling....smooth like the Beatles 'Michelle.'

It is definitely the most relaxing and tranquil of Shulgin's creations...that I've tried anyway.
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what a beautiful post mate..ya sound like the kinda guy who could take nothing in them surroundings and feel euphoric. i can get this one online and may do so ( trip to river with the hounds and minus the children sounds perfect), i will take 30 mg , how long from taking till baseline at that amount, and if the worse comes to the worse and i have to go home could i be normal around my children??, cheers

love the reference to 'Michelle" an all time classic by my fav band..my fourth son is born on friday and his middle name is going to be Lennon:D
 
agnetha said:
Bottom line for me: 2C-C takes almost as much out of me as more powerful substances like for instance 2C-I would do, but without taking me somewhere interesting. I also felt strongly that upping the dose would be a waste, forcing something out of the compound that isn't there.

Edit: Oh yeah, I almost forgot. This chemical can be useful as a psychedelic aphrodisiac, one that doesn't fuck you up to much that is.
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You're completely wrong and you stopped your experiments too soon. What you experienced was a serious underdose, where you got the physiological side effects without 2C-C's massive psychedelic headspace or strong visuals. At much higher doses 2C-C develops into something that reminds me of Psilocybe cubensis with a nice PEA body high more than it reminds me of its close relatives 2C-B or 2C-E. It leads to very spiritual, deep trips with intense visuals at the 60-150mg dose range.

As far as being useful as a psychedelic aphrodesiac, I disagree. There's nothing special about 2C-C that would make it better at that than mescaline, 2C-T-7, 2C-B, 2C-D, etc. At a full dose, and not a threshhold dose like you took, 2C-C fucks you up more than 2C-B.

P.S. 2C-I is another horrible example; you have that one backwards too. 2C-I is known for having the least useful psychedelic headspace and least potent effects out of the 2C's. It gives people headaches before it really makes them trip out usually. More body high and empathogen than psychedelic head trip. No matter how much 2C-I you ingest, it'll never compare to the really deep psychedelics like mescaline, 2C-C, 2C-T-7.
 
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Coolio said:
You're completely wrong and you stopped your experiments too soon. What you experienced was a serious underdose, where you got the physiological side effects without 2C-C's massive psychedelic headspace or strong visuals.

P.S. 2C-I is another horrible example; you have that one backwards too. 2C-I is known for having the least useful psychedelic headspace and least potent effects out of the 2C's.
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I'll give it another go and report back. I'm familiar with the underwhelming experience underdoses provide. I'm willing to concede that it's possible that 2C-C hasn't revealed it's full potencial to me. Accusing me of being 'completely wrong' is a little harsh though: You should know how idiosyncratic the effects of psychedelics are, so what do you know about how 2C-C feels to me? So far it was a waste of my time. I was content to use my remaining stash as an sexual enhancer, but nice to know it's one of your favorites among the 2C-X components.

Would be thrilling if 60-150 mg doses would elicit profound results. I'd be able to get something out of my remaining stock. Wont buy it again though. At this dose range 2C-E is way more cost effective.

Regarding 2C-I I beg to differ, but that's off topic.
 
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Yeah, I think morninggloryseed reported a powerful, spiritual experience with 2C-I once. And some people whose abiltiy to effectively determine the effects of substances report 2C-E to be light and pretty much lacking in content. I personally can't understand that as for me it's one of the most intensely psychedelic substances I've taken. And for me, 2C-I is a great social enhancer, great for fun and introspection about life situations, but I've never found any greater depth to it than that.

I guess what I'm saying is the same thing agnetha said, which is that psychedelics are idiosyncratic and affect us all differently. Hell, some people find 5-MeO-AMT to be a great and highly psychedelic substance. But most of us think it's nasty.
 
Approximately how much 2C-C would create an experience as intense as, say, 25 mg 2C-I? I'm trying to get a feel for how many solid doses I'll be able to get out of a gram of the stuff.
 
it seems to vary a little, but generally speaking to get to that level many people would need +50mg. Some people find it perfectly adequate at 25-30mg though. Kinda depends on what you're looking for i guess
 
Don't mind me. Just drooling in the thread waiting for this weekend up north at my friends cabin. Haven't had my favourite phen in a few months now (after ruling out 2c-b over new years) and the quiet evergreen forests, huge expanses of white snow over the lake, and brilliant sunshine (crosses fingers) will be an epic return.
 
That sounds like a perfect setting for tripping. Lush forests and snow covered lakes; I can imagine it. Phens really jive beautifully with nature. The further out in the sticks, the better.
 
The why the fuck is Shulgins info on 2C-C so scarce thread

To be honest, i have had experience with 2C-B,I,D & E, (and some other stuff too) gave them lots of opportunity, but never C. What is so unimportant about a sedating phen ?.? ? I have yet to try this one, so i went through all of the reports, and find it very interesting . . . What do you guys think about this one?
 
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