The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 1
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Shambles
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^ I'd say that's quite a lot for a first time, 4-OH - especially sniffed. I know I'm in a minority but I felt like I'd been hit by a psychedelic freight train first time I took it orally. That was one of the 2C-B pills that were doing the rounds at the time that ranged in dose from 15-25mg. It was ultimately very rewarding, but I was essentially delerious for large parts of the trip - literally seeing things that weren't there and communicating with them - and felt very much like I was out of control and completely manic. The come-up was a hellish nightmare as well.
Sniffed I find small lines work best for me rather than one big one. I'm still slightly nervous of highish doses of 2C-B (highish for me being over 25mg or so) and that first experience of 2C-B put me off trying other 2Cs for a long time.
Again, I understand that I'm in the minority on this one, and maybe am particularly sensitive to it, but if I am then I presume others could well be too. I wouldn't sniff 35mg in one go even now with plenty of 2C-x experience under my belt.
Good luck and have fun though - let us know how it goes
Sniffed I find small lines work best for me rather than one big one. I'm still slightly nervous of highish doses of 2C-B (highish for me being over 25mg or so) and that first experience of 2C-B put me off trying other 2Cs for a long time.
Again, I understand that I'm in the minority on this one, and maybe am particularly sensitive to it, but if I am then I presume others could well be too. I wouldn't sniff 35mg in one go even now with plenty of 2C-x experience under my belt.
Good luck and have fun though - let us know how it goes
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I found that the three 2C's i tried (2C-I, 2C-T-7 and 2C-B) apart from the 2C-T-7 which i ate i had rather large amounts of the other 3C's and got used to sniffing them, and it hurt way less after a wwhile...
I was also wondering, whats plugging Bio-Availability of 2C-B for examplr??? thx
I was also wondering, whats plugging Bio-Availability of 2C-B for examplr??? thx
Shambles
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Plugged doses for all the 2Cs I've tried (including 2C-B) is generally around half the oral dose (or around 3/4 of a sniffed dose) for me to achieve similar effects.
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might be trying this 2c soon. 2c-e and i were both pretty delightful little substances. 2c-b sounds like a pretty fun drug. Rave a decent setting? I was comfortably overwhelmed on shrooms but not freaking out. And shrooms are a little overwhelming in a sense while this seems pretty easy on the mind. I have always loved the short comedown of the 2c compounds when I have to drive home after a party.
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2C-B is quite a social experience. It should be great for a rave drug, especially if you were comfortable using 2C-E and mushrooms. 2C-B is very light indeed compared to these. In my experience it's not a full psychedelic but a psychedelic-tinged empathogen.
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So as for how my first experience with 2c-b is, fucking wonderful.....
I knew i would like this drug from the come up....
I do love how mentally clear it is while being really social but at the same time trippy enough to make things interesting and fucking beautiful for the eyes....
I decided to trip by myself on it for the first time, although i have called up and talked to random friends since the peak....
I am loving how chill this drug is, no real body load that i notice and not speedy at all.... just really really comfortable....
im fucking wonderful right now....
/blogish post.... but i am tripping and feeling social and wanted to tell people...
I knew i would like this drug from the come up....
I do love how mentally clear it is while being really social but at the same time trippy enough to make things interesting and fucking beautiful for the eyes....
I decided to trip by myself on it for the first time, although i have called up and talked to random friends since the peak....
I am loving how chill this drug is, no real body load that i notice and not speedy at all.... just really really comfortable....
im fucking wonderful right now....
/blogish post.... but i am tripping and feeling social and wanted to tell people...
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2c-b
Well Im going to go to EDC and was got stuck with people I told I would roll with for their first time going on opposite nights, these people mean alot to me so Im going to stay true to my promise. In an effort to keep my pill count as low as possible but still have some altered states of mind I was considering mixing 2C-B in the method of dropping a pill and then waiting for when Im feeling to comedown to try the 2C-B.
Ive never tried 2C-B before and am wondering what to expect, what to do to make it most pleasurable. What does the sensory input tend to be like? How controllable are the visuals? I tend to be able to really control myself when needed on drugs, I can snap myself into sobriety from being high or rolling. Im also a athletically built guy at 5'9" 185. What kind of dosage would a first timer usually take? Ive seen it range from 16-30mgs.
Well Im going to go to EDC and was got stuck with people I told I would roll with for their first time going on opposite nights, these people mean alot to me so Im going to stay true to my promise. In an effort to keep my pill count as low as possible but still have some altered states of mind I was considering mixing 2C-B in the method of dropping a pill and then waiting for when Im feeling to comedown to try the 2C-B.
Ive never tried 2C-B before and am wondering what to expect, what to do to make it most pleasurable. What does the sensory input tend to be like? How controllable are the visuals? I tend to be able to really control myself when needed on drugs, I can snap myself into sobriety from being high or rolling. Im also a athletically built guy at 5'9" 185. What kind of dosage would a first timer usually take? Ive seen it range from 16-30mgs.
2C-B and E is definitely the most physically pleasurable drug combo I've ever done. The safety is uncertain, but it's really enjoyable%).
When I've done it I took them at around the same time, but I guess A. Shulgin talked about how he thought the best timing was the schedule you're thinking of, but I haven't tried that.
Taking them together can stretch your supply a bit, I got distinct effects from half a decent pill while on a moderate dose of 2C-B. 2C-B on it's own (at say 16-25mg oral) is nice enough, you get some colorful visuals, sort of like the extra little touches that you will see in children's cartoons, very bright, but without much of a mental trip, and there can be some tension or weirdness in body load. Adding E turns the weird into amazing, and the mental trip is the familiar sort of rolling "I love everyone!" with a bit of craziness thrown in.
I highly recommend the combination
When I've done it I took them at around the same time, but I guess A. Shulgin talked about how he thought the best timing was the schedule you're thinking of, but I haven't tried that.
Taking them together can stretch your supply a bit, I got distinct effects from half a decent pill while on a moderate dose of 2C-B. 2C-B on it's own (at say 16-25mg oral) is nice enough, you get some colorful visuals, sort of like the extra little touches that you will see in children's cartoons, very bright, but without much of a mental trip, and there can be some tension or weirdness in body load. Adding E turns the weird into amazing, and the mental trip is the familiar sort of rolling "I love everyone!" with a bit of craziness thrown in.
I highly recommend the combination
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I've heard if you can actually find someone with real 2C-B make sure you get it, and try it, because out of all the 2C-x variants, it is the best. If you're going to mix it with MDMA, make sure you go with around 10mg, even 5mg should be more than pleasurable.
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I'd take about 75% of the average reccomended dosage for each drug because there will be a synergising effect.
It appears taking both substances simultaneously is not optimal, Shulgin was probably the first to mention it and I've had personal experience hinting towards this as well. In what order you should take them then is not that easy a discussion, most say first E/MDMA and then 2C-B but I've had the most perfect feeling when I did it the other way round. It was so strange because the 2C-B was on its way down already and I wouldn't say there was a feeling of true combining them, but let me tell you I've almost never had such a potent E experience!
This is all open to experimentation and personal preference but I just wanna say it's not as easy as just overlapping the peaks. [Oops I see that was your plan to begin with! Excuse me]
To answer your questions: 2C-B is very malleable both in feeling and in visuals, it feels very natural (I don't mean organic, there is a synthetic quality to it) and easygoing. My visuals are like a photoshop filter, everything is both smooth and soft-feel looking or fuzzy (not blurry)... In higher doses everything shines even brighter and starts to deform and melt, but it tends to keep friendly and remarkable un-menacing.
As to how much you should take, that is a tough one since you're combining it the first time you try it. Doing it after MDMA should free you from fearful emotions upon entering, and 2C-B is very forgiving but you just might be very sensitive to the stuff dose-wise.
If it's good stuff I'd probably stay somewhere around or just below 20 mg. Personally I don't think dose relative potentiation / quantitative synergy will apply here... Remember you're taking some risks, still - doing it in an unfamiliar setting in combination with something else the first time.
Have loads of fun!
This is all open to experimentation and personal preference but I just wanna say it's not as easy as just overlapping the peaks. [Oops I see that was your plan to begin with! Excuse me]
To answer your questions: 2C-B is very malleable both in feeling and in visuals, it feels very natural (I don't mean organic, there is a synthetic quality to it) and easygoing. My visuals are like a photoshop filter, everything is both smooth and soft-feel looking or fuzzy (not blurry)... In higher doses everything shines even brighter and starts to deform and melt, but it tends to keep friendly and remarkable un-menacing.
As to how much you should take, that is a tough one since you're combining it the first time you try it. Doing it after MDMA should free you from fearful emotions upon entering, and 2C-B is very forgiving but you just might be very sensitive to the stuff dose-wise.
If it's good stuff I'd probably stay somewhere around or just below 20 mg. Personally I don't think dose relative potentiation / quantitative synergy will apply here... Remember you're taking some risks, still - doing it in an unfamiliar setting in combination with something else the first time.
Have loads of fun!
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2c-b + MDMA would probably be a mindblowingly hedonistic combo....
I have only tried 2c-b by itself though and i find it to be a fucking wonderful substance in its own right.... You would have an amazing night on just 2c-b if you did not want to roll at all...
The experience is generally described as a mixture of LSD and MDMA while not being entirely like either. The visuals are morphing morose than fractals as far as OEV are concerned. CEVs have a fractal nature to them, but overall the visuals are exceptionally colorful and pretty... Mentally is where this drug shines. It has the friendliness and lovey dovey nature MDMA has, and for me i consider it to do a better job at it... You feel social and inconspicuous, its a drug you feel like you could easily be around people on. Its sexual in nature, Shulgin considered it to be an amazing aphrodisiac, and it has far less of the vascular constriction of MDMA so sex is still very much possible. 2c-b has a very interesting nature of being able to be pretty much turned off at common dosages.... The drug is one of the most purely hedonistic psychedelics i have tried, every part of the experience is enjoyable. I think i prefer it over MDMA because i get all of the friendliness out of it minus the negative effects of it like jaw clenching and loss of appetite. Its one of the softest psychs i have tried, oral or plugged doses seem to be preferred over nasal... I have railed 10mg of 2c-b before and its comparable to being punched in the nose for about 20 minutes... It hurts, when they say "legendarily painful" they mean it. The trip comes on hard and fast and just seems more harsh than other methods of ingestion which offer you a little more time to acclimate.
Do try to eat food on 2c-b, its one of the few psychs that give me munchies in a way... Food taste amazing.
as far as 2c drugs and MDMA go my experience is limited to 2c-i and 2c-e... 2c-i + MDMA is amazing but not a rave combination, save it for a nice day laid out next to a pool in a comfortable chair or on the beach with some good music playing... because if you react like me, do not expect to stand for about 5 hours.... you will lay down and trip face with no urge to get up.
2c-e with MDMA i dosed the MDMA later on into the experience because i had a feeling it would floor me, and it kind of did but it was easier on me.... 2c-e is a novel psych, less visual and more mental. The most notable thing about this experience was the intense desire to find someone to cuddle with... like overwhelming desire.....
I have only tried 2c-b by itself though and i find it to be a fucking wonderful substance in its own right.... You would have an amazing night on just 2c-b if you did not want to roll at all...
The experience is generally described as a mixture of LSD and MDMA while not being entirely like either. The visuals are morphing morose than fractals as far as OEV are concerned. CEVs have a fractal nature to them, but overall the visuals are exceptionally colorful and pretty... Mentally is where this drug shines. It has the friendliness and lovey dovey nature MDMA has, and for me i consider it to do a better job at it... You feel social and inconspicuous, its a drug you feel like you could easily be around people on. Its sexual in nature, Shulgin considered it to be an amazing aphrodisiac, and it has far less of the vascular constriction of MDMA so sex is still very much possible. 2c-b has a very interesting nature of being able to be pretty much turned off at common dosages.... The drug is one of the most purely hedonistic psychedelics i have tried, every part of the experience is enjoyable. I think i prefer it over MDMA because i get all of the friendliness out of it minus the negative effects of it like jaw clenching and loss of appetite. Its one of the softest psychs i have tried, oral or plugged doses seem to be preferred over nasal... I have railed 10mg of 2c-b before and its comparable to being punched in the nose for about 20 minutes... It hurts, when they say "legendarily painful" they mean it. The trip comes on hard and fast and just seems more harsh than other methods of ingestion which offer you a little more time to acclimate.
Do try to eat food on 2c-b, its one of the few psychs that give me munchies in a way... Food taste amazing.
as far as 2c drugs and MDMA go my experience is limited to 2c-i and 2c-e... 2c-i + MDMA is amazing but not a rave combination, save it for a nice day laid out next to a pool in a comfortable chair or on the beach with some good music playing... because if you react like me, do not expect to stand for about 5 hours.... you will lay down and trip face with no urge to get up.
2c-e with MDMA i dosed the MDMA later on into the experience because i had a feeling it would floor me, and it kind of did but it was easier on me.... 2c-e is a novel psych, less visual and more mental. The most notable thing about this experience was the intense desire to find someone to cuddle with... like overwhelming desire.....
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Wow, thanks for that huge amount of insight guys, if either of the people backs out on rolling at EDC for the first time I will try 2C-B by itself, The person the first night is really set on trying it so it might be the second night that its 2C-B only. That night Im going to be around a large group of people that I trust deeply and there will be a few sober ones in the group. I think that will help with the unfamiliar setting, can you recognise people while on 2C-B?
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it shouldn't be hard to recognize people while on it, it shouldnt warp your vision that much unless you take a lot....
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Merging with the Big and Dandy 2c-b thread 
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Thanks guys, is there anyway to actually test it to see if it is what Im really getting? Any specific smells, tastes colors or what not to look for? Also how difficult is it to get ahold of this stuff, I have about a month and am talking to my trusted connect for other things.
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