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The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 1

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Safe as butter...? so..if i stay in a fridge ill be alright, but if i go outside i'll melt?

that has nothing to do with my question at all
and now im just more confused

why would i stay in a fridge

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Heh :D

I wouldn't do it unless you're feeling pretty close to 100% when it's time to trip. If you're feeling run down at all, or your head hurts more than a tiny bit, I would recommend waiting until a better time.
 
red647 said:
Safe as butter...? so..if i stay in a fridge ill be alright, but if i go outside i'll melt?

that has nothing to do with my question at all
and now im just more confused

why would i stay in a fridge

:(
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Wow talk about a literal interpretation. Why would you stay in a fridge? Simple- a naive, misguided but VALIANT attempt to cryongenically freeze yourself.
 
haha i was joking :)

well i felt great last night so we decided to take it. it was lovely, weed kicked it up a lot. 25 mg on my first time was pretty intense at some spots, this poster of jim morrison was morphing like crazy.

as soon as i felt like i was getting somewhere with some kind of idea/thought something stupid would happen and we would laugh for the next 5 minutes, which was frustrating...but still fun. I guess this just isnt that kinda chem :D
There was one strange bit where a dvd ended and it kept looping and no one would change it. It was like we were stuck on the dvd menu haha

next up: 2C-E. might wait a while between trips though.

Happy afterglow is nice.
overall good first psychadelic experience...Might write a trip report in TP.

peace
 
frustrating wasn't the correct word to use.

i was just trying to think about things when i'd get interrupted with bouts of ridiculous laughter. it was just "distracting".
but laughter is great so im not complaining.


Edit- I added a trip report if anyone is interested.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=365654

:)
 
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Would converting to the HCl salt be as simple as freebasing the HBr salt into some organic solvent, then salting with HCl gas?
 
steeze said:
i was wondering what the tolerance is like with 2cb i've read about 5-7 days but im guessing you can get away with two days in a row with out tolernace even though that isn't my intention i'd like to know for reference
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It takes 5-7 days for tolerance to totally disappear. The very next day you will have the highest tolerance that you will have at any point from a dose, even if it was only one dose. That said, you can take it two days in a row just fine. But expect it to be significantly weaker the second day, and expect tolerance to take even longer to reset afterwards. I recommend against taking psychedelics multiple days in a row. I spent last year doing that a lot, and it's just going to eventually turn them into just some other recreational drug for you. You lose the impact (the "magic") of psychedelics if you use them too often. Once or twice won't really matter. But if you're taking them two days in a row once, you're pretty likely to want to do it again sometime. It's not a good habit to get into.
 
Just got around to trying 2C-B w/ a friend (also their first), with about 26-28mg for me and 24-26mg for her. All I can say is haha, oh wow. =D

Be prepared to laugh until you tear constantly, and make fart jokes. I must have been weeping from laughter half of the trip. Very visual, as if RGB lights and lines were coming from every pore of the surroundings.

There was a strong body identification to the trip, so things felt comfortable in the setting I was in (bedroom). It felt kinda drunk (when walking around), which is funny because I suffered a mild headache after coming down.
 
I've never railed it, I've been told it's more visually intense but less 'rewarding' than oral, so never felt the need. The raped in the face thing was what my dealer told me the first time I bought it - he said to imagine the pain of railing piperazines, multiplied by ten. So I didn't dare ;)

22mg sounds pretty much spot on. The first time I did 2C-B I took 18mg. This was too weak and I came away from the experience feeling disappointed. The second time I took 25mg, which would be my standard dose now. I'm a small guy and for me 25mg is visually pretty intense and quite confusing, but with a lovely, sensual, happily introspective afterglow.

A mix with MDMA is likely to intensify the visuals - the time I combined the two, my entire field of vision was overlaid with intricate neon patterns for a good hour non-stop.

I agree, though, 2C-B is a good introduction to the more 'visual' psychedelics (I've never done acid but a friend told me 25mg 2C-B was far more visually active than any LSD trip he'd had). Just flow with them. If things are getting a little bit rough, it's relatively easy to 'snap out' of some of the more vivid stuff, although the morphing and breathing will continue intensely.

Enjoy it. It can be a crazy experience but it's a lot of fun.

Expect to feel a bit run down and tired the day after, though. And the last hour or two of the trip can be a little boring and frustrating as the visuals tend to linger on after the stimulation and introspection have settled down. These are the only two things I don't like about it. :)
 
entheo said:
2C-I burnt for at least 30 minutes so i guess 2C-B is easier on the sinus's. 2C-B gives me some of the most intense nausea i've ever had. A little herbal enlightenment always cures it though and saves me from vomiting.
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I wanted to save my bud until after I puked. I definately enojyed it more afterwards. Sometimes the puking is just as much a part of the trip as anything else.
Never tried 2c-i though, I hope I can soon, I've heard good things :)
 
LTS said:
Sounds like an odd thread title, granted, but hear me out.

My previous experience with 2C-B has always been indoors, amongst a small number of people, at doseages of either 18 or 25mg. 18mg gave me a body high, a visual 'sharpening' of objects, a 'sparkling' of surfaces and a trippy headspace that made me feel as if I were in a sci-fi film or videogame. 25mg was much more intense, with colours cascading out of objects, hyper-speed breathing and morphing of everything around me, my entire field of vision alternating between high-contrast and sepia tones, and intense tracers that lasted for seconds at a time, as well as a very confused and manic train of thought.

Anyway, the point is, myself and a couple of friends intend to take some 2C-B outdoors on Saturday, as it is supposed to be a very nice day. However, a friend with experience of both indoor and outdoor doses said that he found being outside deadened the visual side of the 2C-B somewhat, and that the usual breathing, morphing and colour effects only resumed once he returned indoors. This was at night time; my dose will be during the day.

So I'm asking about doseage for a couple of reasons: the above, and - of course - that in the real world outside we'll tend to chance upon a good few people who are not tripping their nut off. The chances are we'll be in a fairly busy park nearby my home, though I live in a very laid back, liberal and predominantly young (ie. 20-30 years) area, where I do occasionally see people obviously consuming various drugs when out and about on such occasions. The park will be full of people drinking and smoking weed, at least - think festival atmosphere. As such, I'd like to have an enjoyable experience - probably beyond the intensity of the 18mg trip, at least visually - but one in which we can still easily control ourselves and stay safe and discreet. So my initial idea was 20mg - but then, it'll be outdoors and bright, so will the visual side be deadened to sub-18mg territory?

Dunno, just thought I'd get people's experiences and opinions as I have to go to a friend's house and get it measured out this evening (don't have my own scale).
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With 30mg outside it was the most amazing visual experience of my life, I definitely would say that it does not dull the effects. I'd prefer to be outside because clouds are very active.
 
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