The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (3rd edition)

[ShaggyFin]

Thanks, I will try citrus juice.

Still though, I want to ask if anyone knows how many mL of white vinegar or citrus juice is needed to dissolve 1 mg of 25i-nbome? Most posts I read say "add until it dissolves", but then I ended up having to add a ton of vinegar, and it still didn't fully dissolve. Not sure if I am doing something wrong....

Next time I will use a magnetic stirrer and heat, hopefully that helps significantly.

I have no idea how much you should use...

I did 2.5ml/500mcg because I wanted to be able to measure it in a cough syrup measure cup.

Well... for me 500 ug was 4 hours worth of warmth, and happy feelings.... not real visuals just some very minor CEV's, clearly off baseline, but it didn't hit me that hard. Really I felt nothing until like an hour in and even then it was hard to decipher what it really was. It sounds like you had the same/similar experience on 500 ug


so ya know yer body can handle it and you are not alergic


the 2nd time I did take the plunge into the 1mg range and it was kind of overwhelming.... so just make sure


a. you wait a good 2 weeks
b. if you had any chills or cold feet look to get a magnesium supplement.
c. have 8 hours to kill

See, this sounds VERY similar to my experience. And I will take 2 weeks for 25I-NBOMe again.

But what does everyone think about taking 25I-NBOH in like 4-5 days?? Think I'll still trip since it's not NBOMe???

 

[Solipsis]

If you propose to provide information (not only to us but to yourself as well) on dosage of that compound, you would mess it up by not leaving sufficient time in between for us all to be sure enough that tolerance is not in play significantly.

25I-NBOH may not be 25I-NBOMe but it is extremely similar structurally so we have to assume that there is crosstolerance that pretty much approaches normal tolerance. Please be patient, it would be a shame if any information would be pulled into question... for that same reason I tried to avoid interaction with other drugs when I tried MiPT last monday.

 

[SkunkyMonkey]

how many days should i wait before taking acid after taking 25i?

 

[Bagseed]

there's no strict rule, but spacing out trips as long as possible is advised. tolerance-wise you might be good after seven days, but in my opinion you should wait longer, like 2 weeks. also, tripping less often preserves the magic.

 

[Sepher]

Yeah, high enough dose of 25I and even a week might not be enough, seems to produce even more tolerance than usual and psyches are generally very cross-tolerant for one another. So much so 6-APB at the weekend has completely buggered my first excursion out with Escaline today, but I kinda knew that would happen, only myself to blame being impatient. Two weeks is your best bet to really get the best from things SkunkyMonkey though might be clear enough in seven days to make acid worthwhile without diminishing things too much.

 

[PowerFarts]

I do want to try that next time. But what do you think about snorting 1.75ml of vodka?

Snorted 2mls of Vodka, both me and my brother, if you are a man you can do it.
Not quite sure yet but it seems more potent with the vodka in than with the vodka evaporated out and water added.

I would lay on a 45Degree angle (or at least my head to prevent throat loss)
And then I would move my head side to side after the drop to spread it around, stings for a few seconds, but we are men, and can do this.

 

[ChiMDMA]

Anyone experienced cross-tolerance between 25i-nbome and mdma? I plan to take 1mg of 25i-nbome for the first time two weeks before I plan to take some mdma at an event, I've read that nbome's cause a high tolerance for other psychedelics but not much about its relation to mdma.

 

[SpikeBall]

I was recently told that free base 25 I can be dissolved in water and snorted without being converted into a salt at all, and still be active. Can someone please confirm if this is true?

Thought you had to convert it to a salt regardless of ROA.

 

[Transform]

You need to convert it to a salt. It will not dissolve otherwise.

I do not expect that 25I will cause any tolerance to MDMA after two weeks.

 

[Rorthron]

I was recently told that free base 25 I can be dissolved in water and snorted without being converted into a salt at all, and still be active. Can someone please confirm if this is true?

Thought you had to convert it to a salt regardless of ROA.

There is another way. You can dissolve the freebase in alcohol and use it dissolved in water. The FB is active by itself

 

[Sepher]

Snorted 2mls of Vodka, both me and my brother, if you are a man you can do it.

2ml? Madness! WhyTF would you use that much solution? 20mg 25I HCl went into 2ml 37.5% vodka no problem, so 0.1ml = 1mg 25I. I dose high, it's fine at that concentration for me dosing nasally but you could use more solution to make dosing more accurate for doses < 1mg but still, 2ml vodka up the nose is shitloads and totally unnecessary. ~0.2ml of it stings enough but passes quickly and quite efficient.

 

[ChiMDMA]

You need to convert it to a salt. It will not dissolve otherwise.

I do not expect that 25I will cause any tolerance to MDMA after two weeks.

Thanks! Actually I just finished coming off my trip now.. and have 3 weeks till im going to roll off some partyfocks.. yea I'll be good

 

[weadazoid]

2ml? Madness! WhyTF would you use that much solution? 20mg 25I HCl went into 2ml 37.5% vodka no problem, so 0.1ml = 1mg 25I. I dose high, it's fine at that concentration for me dosing nasally but you could use more solution to make dosing more accurate for doses < 1mg but still, 2ml vodka up the nose is shitloads and totally unnecessary. ~0.2ml of it stings enough but passes quickly and quite efficient.

Agreed. I didn't concentrate mine down quite that much but I could see how it would easily disolve. 20mg is basically a light dusting. Like I said this last time I went with a ratio of 2 to 1 so 2 mgs for every 1 ml.

I did the bulk of mine sublingually but . 200 ml shots up the nose burned a bit even when I let them evap off.


snorting up 2ml of liquid would not only burn but make you gag cough and feel like you just did an underwater summersalt without holding your nose. Doing 2ml on regualr basis may damage the lineing of your mucus membranes at least I would think it might.

 

[Transform]

Yes, ethanol is quite irritant to sensitive membranes and the increased incidence of mouth, throat and stomach cancers should really send a clear warning about using more than is necessary.

 

[Anon610]

Trying 2C-I-NBOMe for the first time.

So I'm getting about 15 hits of 2C-I-NBOMe thanks to a friend. Each contains 900ug.
I was thinking about the dose and a 'Strong' dose according to Erowid is 700-1500ug if I remember correctly.

I just have a few questions though. I'm very experienced with DMT (Over 100 'trips'), pretty used to mushrooms, and do like LSD. Would you consider 2C-I-NBOMe to be spiritual? Ever since my DMT use that has been really my main purpose of hallucinogens. I immediately seeked out 2C-I-NBOMe because of users reporting CEV and OEV, which is definitely appealing to me.

Last question is, what would be a good starting dose? I know what the compound is so I was just gonna start with like 1 1/2, maybe 2. Or does this sound dangerous? I know it varies by individual but it certainly helps to see other peoples doses. Also, does body weight/height affect how much of a dose you should take? I'm a small person.

 

[Transform]

The best place to ask this question would be in the 25I-NBOMe (2C-I-NBOMe) thread, so I've moved it here for you

 

[Anon610]

The best place to ask this question would be in the 25I-NBOMe (2C-I-NBOMe) thread, so I've moved it here for you

Thank you!
Hopefully someone can assist me.

 

[dan k]

I just have a few questions though. I'm very experienced with DMT (Over 100 'trips'), pretty used to mushrooms, and do like LSD. Would you consider 2C-I-NBOMe to be spiritual?

no its more body buzz and visuals with less head space.

Last question is, what would be a good starting dose? I know what the compound is so I was just gonna start with like 1 1/2, maybe 2. Or does this sound dangerous? Also, does body weight/height affect how much of a dose you should take?

1.8mg is a pretty large starting dose. try one first and if your liking it an hour in take half of another one. this drug multiplies with small increases in dose. and unless your really small or really big it doesn't make as much of a difference compared to your mental state at the time.

 

[weadazoid]

ANON 610... Sounds a bit dangerous to start. There are some key things that go on with 25i

Everyone is different, different body chemistry personal health ect ect...yes this effects all trips but NBOMe's seem esspecially strange.

the general rule of thumb is to start low.... lower then one hit if you connection is accurate. We can't really advise hear just speak based on our own experience.

It is highly visual, it has far less headspace then LSD, with a good strong sense of natural euphoria - simmilar to MDMA. It is a beautiful thing when done right. I started with 500 ug and it was a mild experience, 4 hours of warmth and only very mild CEV's no OEV's at all - closer to an E trip light, pleasent low dose E trip.

I went up to 1 mg next and it was almost overwhelming, at first. I would say given your experience level 1 hit and 1 hit alone would be the most to go with. ALSO it has been known to react badly with other drugs so no mixing your first run. Even an experienced tripper like myself may be overwhelmed by a dose of 900 ug to start.

I am an old school raver (1993 to start) and I gotta tell ya 500 ug was NOTHING NOTHING like 1mg... and it wasn't the difference between 1 hit of LSD and 2 hits of LSD, it was crazy. 1 mg was comparable for me to 3 hits of good LSD with 2 hits of good MDMA. back in the day designer style from undergound 90's chemists good. yeah... most people are gonna tell ya cut in half to start, and it really isn't bad advice until you get your feet wet.

take some magnesium and potassium supllements leading up to your experiment... it will help with the vasconstriction.

 

[S-R]

OK, first of all, I felt nothing at all with 600ug's or less.

I had 2700ug on the weekend and the trip was just amazing. I got none of the negative effects you people keep bitching on about, never have on high doses and I believe this drug is alot safer than some people are saying on here. Yes the visuals and mindfuck were intense at times, especially during the peak combined with weed but I mean seriously people that are experienced with psychedelics in general should have no problem with doses 2-2.5ug or over IMO.

Moderator note: This user is advocating an incredibly high dose, the level of which has already caused problems for other users. It seems most likely that S-R has simply misjudged their dose or struggled to get an effective dose using sublingual dosing, either because of the formulation or technique.