Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine (2fk/2fdck) Thread

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Hello! I finished binge-reading this whole thread from the beginning now and I am really grateful to everyone who shared their experience here.
Especially since I managed to get my hands on some 2-FDCK as a readymade nasal spray recently. I've been curious about Special K for decades literally but never got any, so this one seems to be rather close (Yes, opinions diverge about that, but I still think it's a good choice). It's my first disso and I intend to make it the first thing ever I'm gonna try i.m.
For now I tried it twice the way it is made for, first 20 mg (it stings) which was felt lightly and I had some fun watching my pupils dilate and contract in the mirror for a short time; it almost felt like visuals coming up, but no...
Two days later on Sunday morning 40 mg that were very clearly felt. Slightly impaired coordination, jumpy thought process and a strong feeling in the head, which lasted 3-4 hours and ever so slightly turned into a hangover like headache. Yes, now I know I should have been talking care of drinking enough but I didn't. And it might also not have helped that I had been drinking a little the night before. But in the morning I was absolutely fine...and the headache subsided till evening.

 

[Didgital]

Two days later on Sunday morning 40 mg that were very clearly felt.

I personally feel like it really shines at higher doses. At lower doses i found it a bit hard to distinguish from K.

I am also a beast i don't want to recommend high doses. I think i probably did 150mg over an hr or so, that was definitely wild.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

I personally feel like it really shines at higher doses. At lower doses i found it a bit hard to distinguish from K.

I am also a beast i don't want to recommend high doses. I think i probably did 150mg over an hr or so, that was definitely wild.

No worries I'm not done experimenting with this. You insufflated it or? Cause for now I didn't go i.m. yet. I'm starting low and going slow so I can get an idea of my personal dose. ( Since I don't wanna end up sweating on the floor again... ) But I absolutely wanna find this hole for once...

 

[Didgital]

No worries I'm not done experimenting with this. You insufflated it or? Cause for now I didn't go i.m. yet. I'm starting low and going slow so I can get an idea of my personal dose. ( Since I don't wanna end up sweating on the floor again... ) But I absolutely wanna find this hole for once...

I did insuff. I thankfully am scurred of needles.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

I did insuff. I thankfully am scurred of needles.

That's good then. If it's working for you it's likely gonna be working for me too and I might not need them either...

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

I personally feel like it really shines at higher doses. At lower doses i found it a bit hard to distinguish from K.

I am also a beast i don't want to recommend high doses. I think i probably did 150mg over an hr or so, that was definitely wild.

Alright I got you now. I'm stubborn sometimes but I learn...
So I planned on taking 60 mg last night and ended up with 140... Step by step starting at 22:00 over an hour and a bit. My thoughts were constantly going round about the question of dose, what I read all over, what I wrote and you... The last bump hurt and I knew it's gonna be the last because walking was already too much of a hassle... There was a lot of thinking going on but I was definitely tripping. Dunno why it's considered so different from other trips aside the fact you're losing motor control to some extent. Thoughts did't come in order but I was quite aware of where I was and also knew what was going on. I could even do the most basic things... Still then I was in a mental space where my thoughts filled everything, they even seemed to have a shape and color and it was all about "is this a hole or not?", why am I doing this and how I'm so damn addicted to the internet and trying to get attention there. But unlike with Salvia it was not humbling or pityful. If anything it was a massive ego-booster from the beginning. This really leaves you unharmed even by the normally most painful thoughts...
Tbh after the last headache with 40 mg I had my doubts about higher doses, but one bottle of water obviously was all it took to make me come out better than last time. Confusing but worth it I'd say. Hard to tell the duration of the trippy part, there was a fairly clear come up after 1 hour, then again after 2 where I had also partly been asleep I think, but it still felt dreamy after that. Slight effects lasted till morning but not uncomfortable at all. So thanks for the inspiration

 

[MedicinalUser247]

Now there's two things I'd like to try. How does 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine and Methoxetamine compare with ketamine ?

 

[MedicinalUser247]

You know what would even be stronger ? Is a 2-Bromo or a 2-Iododeschloroketamine.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Now there's two things I'd like to try. How does 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine and Methoxetamine compare with ketamine ?

I never tried original K but just as far as I read up, 2-fdck is a bit longer lasting and for some there is a different quality in the hole experience. Some say 2-fdck is weaker, lierature goes with similar potency. Rest no idea

 

[Didgital]

I never tried original K but just as far as I read up, 2-fdck is a bit longer lasting and for some there is a different quality in the hole experience. Some say 2-fdck is weaker, lierature goes with similar potency. Rest no ideas

Even the literature and binding data don't ALWAYS predict potency accurately. Def weaker, yeah a touch longer lasting, and I thought it was "warmer" then ketamine once got deep.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

So... Since I still didn't get a reply from the vendor about what my spray contains as a solvent, I just did a tiny test shot (20mg) in my left quad four days ago. There was almost the same amount still in the syringe so I recycled it through the nose.. It came up strong, I was more messed up than I thought, seemed to have more of a peak and faster decline. No reactions near the injection site until yesterday so I thought I can go.
Last night prepared everything and imd 80 mg (right quad). Had few minutes to clean up and when I got on the bed my ears were already ringing. One more look at the time and I pretty much entered the stream... A really smooth ride this time compared to last. My conscience was just streaming through different forms of matter and space... Wondering about the path my mind should take through this shifting existence, and simply trusting the assumption it all would come to make sense again sometime... Questions were arising but I couldn't find anything disturbing in the possible answers... Everything just kept changing and flowing on... One hour and 30 min later I noted down the hole ended, effects lasted until morning though. Wasn't really tired and guess I didn't even sleep 4 hours... My leg is fine.

 

[HofmannBlotter]

It's been a while since I posted anything, nor have I taken any psychoactive substances since 2015.

Now that I'm 33 yo, I wanted to re-discover some substances in a less festive context. I wanted to test a dissociative similar to Ketamine and I turned to 2F-DCK which is the closest I've read on the net, I also know that the product acts longer than Ketamine but is less potent.

Nevertheless, my tolerance to dissociatives is at zero and the only real experiences I've had with dissociatives were with DXM and Methoxetamine, unfortunately I can't tell you the effects I felt any more, so it's as if everything was new to me.

Here's a little trip report or rather notes I took during my experience:

Trip Report #2
Dosage:
- 12.5mg (Light) [According to PsychonautWiki]
Method of administration: Oral

Duration: 2h30 to 5h00.

Ingestion time: 22:32
End time: 3:30 ~

Oral intake of a 50mg 2F-DCK tablet, cut in 4. I take a piece of about 12.5mg.
I took 1mg of Xanax around 5:00 pm and 80mg of caffeine around 8:30 pm.


Took the product at 22:32.
Effects:
+ 00:15m: I'm starting to feel the effects when I play World of WarCraft. My fingers are a little sweaty, a little excited about the effect.
Mental clarity: OK
+ 00:30m: I feel a bit “warmer”. I also feel a little lighter physically. It's not unpleasant or pleasant, it's fairly neutral.
No visuals noted, it's easy to establish one's thoughts. I decide to change game. I find it hard to play Hearthstone, the music is nice to listen to. I'm hot and cold at times, and I'm sweating quite a bit (maybe stress?).
In fact, why do I stress? There's no reason...

Hot/cold sensation and still a little lightness in my body. My legs are warm, which is quite pleasant.
My mental faculties don't seem totally impaired. I can still think in a normal way, but it takes me longer to find my words. I can also feel a bit heavy physically.
My ears feel warm, which is nice.

00:20 : Feeling like the effects are wearing off?
00:41 : I'm a flat spaghetti. Like a redrop craving but no that will be for another time with a friend.
00:57 : Time seems to pass slowly, then quickly. The music is gripping. I don't have any more shivers or boring sensations in my chest.
1:22: I was able to go down to the bathroom and get a bottle of water quietly. Apart from a physical effect and heavy eyes, I don't feel much anymore.
At times it feels like absorbent cotton. Calm, neutral state of mind - I was a little apprehensive at the start of the experiment.
I've noticed that when I'm talking on Discord in a group of people, I use very long sentences to say very little.

It's now 1:57 a.m. and I feel 80% sober, the music is still catchy but I no longer have any physical effects like heat, for example.

In terms of physical effects, at first I felt a slight tingling in my fingers, and an impression of a change in body temperature (between hot and cold, but mainly hot). My heart was speeding up a little.
A little pressure on the chest appeared, but this is most probably linked to stress and apprehension about the substance. This sensation subsided as the hours went by. Still no visuals with eyes closed or open.

I'll try again at 12.5mg with a friend now that I know what to expect. On the whole it was OK even if I didn't particularly like the high, I also notice that the product acts in waves.
There were moments when I felt sober and then a few minutes later, I felt in a second state.

End of trip: 02:03 a.m.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Thought I might add something here, since it's disturbing me until the present day
This compound is a veritable tissue irritant.
My nose is STILL crusty and never healing since now pretty much one year since I used it nasally regularly - wish I had started boofing the shit earlier
Veins hurt after injection and one I probably blew up the wall is STILL sensitive, like 5-6 months later!
If some gets under the skin it hurts for 2-3 days and in the beginning it's so hot that I put my feet out of the blanket (yeah, that's where I inject)
Muscle takes it best by far but that's also felt for ~2 days.
Also for me it's causing a headache if i.v.'d.

Just my own experience but might be useful for someone maybe...

 

[suckerbunnie]

IM ketamine or the FDCK is the only way to go. IV is too extreme and railing is just freakin' gross. And back when I had 20g of the 2F I went thru every little bit of it via IM and never once noticed any real burning sensation. I also think I might like the fdck better than regular K, as it is far more colorful and cloud-drifty

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Now there's two things I'd like to try. How does 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine and Methoxetamine compare with ketamine ?

Well after trying a whole bunch RC dissociative s. Started with N2O then Ketamine.
They share a common feature dissociation, but that is about where similarity ends.

The dissociation between all ones tried was different. Ketamine the archetype.
To which the rest is compared as it was my 1-st experience. Now K is imo special.
In little doses excellent, music enhancing, and it likes to be danced on.
Dancing on it is different, then like sober or on MDMA. Loved dancing on K !

But at home, specially coming down from MDMA, a bit of K would hit double as hard.
A tiny line and i was gone to Lalaland [K-hole] than you ll notice the differences.
K s hole are geometrical and synchronise with the music that s on.
So imagine Maya temples, Pyramid s and rotating fractal s in music tunnels.
You fly through, all peaceful. Though watch it with fire, you are anaesthetised.

Methoxetamine/ MXE is a totally different beast, when overdone.
Mistake 1-st time its way more potent. OEVs alienating the landscape,
a deep connection with the Earth. Take to much: enter the M-hole awake.
But at tiny dose a very good mood enhancer and stimulant.
So compared to a K bump take a tiny dot, 20x as strong about ?

Well the ground i walked on, in my case a sort of sponge. It is a ex-swamp.
But somehow it made it physically noticeable. And like K no you feel no fear.
Unlike K stayed lucid despite my state. Making well weighed risks.
So no lights on my bike/ Cops/ might mean a fine, so i stopped and walked.
And could carry even a conversation with my Mom.

On Methoxetamine your able to move, mainly with OEVs.
Its a powerful stimulant too. Forget sleeping when on it.
A allrounder disso took it daily few years.

2F-DCK was weird, expected sort of K, but it was not. Also stimulating.
But this had a sinister vibe, next time got DCK. DesChloroKetamine.
Not sinister more neutral but dark. And stimulating afterwards.

DCK imo is most K like, but again CEV s are totally different.
Not a dance drug, but the hole was refreshing and then warming.
One moment in-twined in Roots, a warm reddish place under the ground.
Comforting feel. Next a cool breeze and like floating true total darkness.
Though leaves on branches of trees, illuminating in blue and green s.
Dark but cosy, unlike 2f-DCK. Immobilising but easy to break through.

o-PCE was a disaster, it combined stimulant/ manic and dissociation in one.
Got a seizure on it, no OEV s, just madness. Bad decision.

dMXE appeared, which has hints of MXE, a tuned down version.
And way less stimulating, visions of great insight came and went.
Thoughts not visuals, Before i could write em down. Which is frustrating.
Tape recorder would have been usefull, mobiles are useless.
Only on MXE i could operate one. It seemed lacking in OEV/ CEV s.

Kinda the moment i decided I was done with disso s.
Fear for the mania. But in order of preference for holing:
Ketamine > [N2O] > DCK > dMXE > MXE > 2f-DCK > o-PCE.
But essentially K for fun, and MXE most functional, N2O a tease.