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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy 1P-LSD Thread - Volume 2

I took 200mics of the latest batch I received and at times was plunged into visuals it would have taken a hell of a lot more LSD to give rise to. Previously my sweet spot was 400-500mics. I look forward to taking that dose again but am also thinking about microdosing.
 
I consumed a 150ug yellow hexagon microdot of 1p yesterday and it was incredible and had me tripping very hard I just wish they weren't more expensive than blotters
 
This drug is better than LSD. I have been doing both occasionally during the last year, about 20 trips in total, 10 on each. The 1P experiences were consistently easier on the body as well as the mind and yet at the same time gave me more of that refreshing, "reset button" feeling that makes these experiences so valuable in day to day life. 1P is crisp, clear and cozy, whereas LSD can sometimes torment you a bit without giving much in return for your trouble.

Didn't think this will happen, but I have a new favorite lysergamide. Feels weird :)
 
I've read confusing reports on the potency of this stuff, some people say it's comparable to LSD and others have to dose way higher, what should I expect?
 
Well for myself and about eight of my friends who have taken it, we find it indistinguishable from LSD. I've not met anyone who can tell the difference. I will be taking this over LSD for the foreseeable future as I have a decent amount stashed away and I really cannot find any differences between the two.

100ug for me was perfectly immersive and all encompassing, since I have pushed it to 200ug though I couldn't imagine going any lower again.
 
I agree with you 100% weirdling!!!

I do get much stronger visuals off of the mother compound, and dare I say more euphoria
 
.:Holy::Toast:. said:
I've read confusing reports on the potency of this stuff, some people say it's comparable to LSD and others have to dose way higher, what should I expect?
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It's higher. For me at least. 200ugs of lsd will make me trip balls. 200 of 1p is underwhelming and doesn't feel very positive. Visually at the same dose lsd wins easily. I don't understand why I don't find it indistinguishable no one I have gave this to thought it was indistinguishable either.
 
If you look at the various reports on 1p-lsd, you'll see that for most people it's pretty potent. There are just a few people, mostly Bigazznugz, who keep posting over and over again trying to tell everybody that it's weak.

100ug of 1p-lsd is very visual for me. At 150ug, the trip is intense and everything is an explosion of rainbows.

I've never tripped on LSD knowing the exact dose I took, but 1p-lsd is a little more potent than eth-lad for me, and eth-lad is reported to be stronger than LSD.
 
I havea count of about 6 people in my area that have taken it and all think it is not nearly as strong as the mother compound
 
Peacephrog1972 said:
I havea count of about 6 people in my area that have taken it and all think it is not nearly as strong as the mother compound
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Thank you. I don't make this shit up and its not from taking benzos either.
I mean wasn't a study done in mice and 1p lsd came out that only ~33% of 1p was converted to lsd. But 1p could also be active on its on right.
 
While I don't disbelieve that for you it was and is weak in comparison to LSD proper literally everyone I have given this stuff to, and it is a fair number, has said it is indistinguishable from LSD and it is very very potent.
 
To echo the poster above, I have shared 1P with many different people, usually at a 200mic starting dose. Everyone has agreed that at that dose it more potent than LSD, has less risk of a sketchy come down, and is potentially more euphoric. Whatever the scientific fact, it is definitely very potent.
 
Well I'm going to v give it another whirl just cuz it's so cheap right now. Hopefully if I eat before hand I didn't once or twice and didn't work to good. I can't tell you why I prefer ald-52 probably cuz I feel it more I really don't understand why it's been lackluster. Peacefrog would agree. Gonna try upping the dose and eating before hand.
The new blotters do seem like they are better than the last. Could be my imagination.
 
Anymore I do 300mcg, and that much LSD would have me floored....on 1P that is what I need just to get where I would be on 150mcg of L
 
I remember when the 4-sub-tryptamines were first available, everyone thought the 4-AcO esters were all simple prodrugs of their 4-HO counterparts. Our Big and Dandy threads were even combined together for 4-HO-DiPT/4-AcO-DiPT, etc. Some people were saying that the chemicals differed, but a lot of people dismissed it out of hand. Then 4-AcO-DMT came out, and pure 4-HO-DMT was available for a while, and myself and some others got to try both, and for me, the difference between them is profound, I am 100% confident I could easily discern which I was given in a double blind test. It seems that 4-AcO-DMT DOES convert to 4-HO-DMT in vivo, but my theory is that it happens at different rates in different people, so that more or less 4-AcO-DMT is unchanged to cross the BBB itself depending on your individual metabolic factors. For me, 4-AcO-DMT feels like oral smoked DMT in the first phase, it's a totally different feeling from 4-HO-DMT, though in the second half of the trip they become much more similar.

I bring up this example to suggest that I think we know less about how these drugs can work as prodrugs than we sometimes think we do. I would not be surprised at all if a similar thing is going on with 1p-LSD. Some people may easily cleave off that 1p and find the effects indistinguishable from LSD, while others may cleave it off more slowly and more 1p-LSD crosses the BBB unchanged. Not sure if it's true but I am as sure as I can be that it's true with 4-AcO/4-HO-DMT.
 
It's kind of early to give my opinion as I just had 2 trials in underwhelming 100ug and 200ug. 100ug was exactly what I should expect from 100ug of LSD. But 200ug was kind of less of what I would expect from a similar dosage of LSD. But then again, my I lost count how many LSD trips were always at unknown dosages so I don't now anything from certain. Just make sense what others are saying about its reduce metabolism.

If I had to guess I would say 1p-LSD is just indistinguishable from LSD but somewhat less potent on me (1.5 times?). It might be a bit less demanding physically too. It might not, and I'm maybe just healthier lately. I feel any difference between them is less noticeable for me than other arguably prodrugs, like tryptamines. Would love if we could get some certainty about those differences, I don't know how much of it, i's just pure suggestion.

Biggest advantage I see in it is the certainty of dosage.
 
Me thinks I'll start my experimentation at 200ug starting, I love how they have "ANALYTICAL SAMPLE" posted on my package of blotters, as if chemists are gonna use dosed blotters as their standards haha
 
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