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The Big & Dandy 1P-LSD Thread, Volume 1

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Tried 2 hits over the weekend....better than one but still underwhelmed....unimpressed....wait 2 weeks try 3 I guess
 
bjznoviskey said:
Net yet, plan to try 150mg AL-LAD, 150mg LSZ, 100mg 1P soon though. RC lysergic trinity of sorts
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I wrote a really long and involved reply that is no longer here, so I'll sum up:
Diazedine (LSZ) is basically a longer lasting shittier version of 1p-LSD. I've found it to be weird and unpleasant during it's extremely long comedown.

For the sake of experimentation though, do your thing
 
AmoebicMagician said:
I wrote a really long and involved reply that is no longer here, so I'll sum up:
Diazedine (LSZ) is basically a longer lasting shittier version of 1p-LSD. I've found it to be weird and unpleasant during it's extremely long comedown.

For the sake of experimentation though, do your thing
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I'd agree with this the long come ups a drag and it's mostly superficial and comedown is unpleasant - dirty stuff - didn't find it longer than 1P though - all about LSD length

Found 2 hits of 1P decent - probably enough for some but 3 is more where it is at for me. Hear AL-LSD/LSD is really nice though (not tried it). I like the differences between them so not sure how that pans out but 1P will certainly work. Hear unsurprisingly AL-LAD enriches LSZ so a 3 way probably works but not sure what LSZ brings sinces it's mostly defined by what it lacks. Eitherway 1P is top shelf.
 
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AmoebicMagician said:
I wrote a really long and involved reply that is no longer here, so I'll sum up:
Diazedine (LSZ) is basically a longer lasting shittier version of 1p-LSD. I've found it to be weird and unpleasant during it's extremely long comedown.

For the sake of experimentation though, do your thing
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Different people like different drugs.
 
zombywoof said:
has anyone tested the 150ug pellets yet as i have just ordered couple to get my stock back up before the ban but as i had been testing blotters last weekend i wont be testing again for at least a few weeks
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yes, I've tried them. I was severely underwhelmed, but they had sat in my hot mailbox for a full week during a heat wave and several cloudbursts, and were only packaged in a poorly sealed plastic baggie, so I don't know if they lost any potency or what. All I know is that after one was not doing it for me, I dosed a tab and a half and THAT hit me like lightning, so it was not a tolerance issue.

Would like to see other's responses to this. Can't name vendor, but it is a very well known one with a little alliterative action, and that is all I'm saying because I don't want to be banned, this community is one of the best things that's happened to me.
 
AmoebicMagician said:
I wrote a really long and involved reply that is no longer here, so I'll sum up:
Diazedine (LSZ) is basically a longer lasting shittier version of 1p-LSD. I've found it to be weird and unpleasant during it's extremely long comedown.

For the sake of experimentation though, do your thing
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Do you find that 1P-LSD has comparable bodyload to LSZ? LSZ bodyload is pretty brutal in my experience, when you dose more than 150ug.
 
For me 1p feels almost indistinguishable from LSD, and LSD never has even a bit of bodyload for me. I haven't tried LSZ but my educated guess is that 1p is smoother than LSZ.
 
weirdling said:
Do you find that 1P-LSD has comparable bodyload to LSZ? LSZ bodyload is pretty brutal in my experience, when you dose more than 150ug.
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No- I find that there is no bodyload with 1p-LSD

That said, the term bodyload is very subjective.

I find that there is 'weirdness' with LSZ in terms of the way I cognize and think of my body, whereas with 1p-lsd, there are changes to my cognition, but they are, or at least have been LITERALLY EVERY TIME I'VE TAKEN IT, extremely pleasant and blissful, feeling not unlike a warm tingle buzz in the brain/body/soul that literally is just bliss to experience.

With LSZ, when I finally get where it's taking me on that damn intolerable come up it's like "yeah, something is happening, some weird shit- don't really know where my head is at- this is different: is it good? Can't say"
Whereas on 1p it's like
"I kinda feel horny, there's a pleasant feeling in my body reminiscent of post orgasm sensitivity in my johnson- THIS IS FLIPPIN AWESOME!"

Like I said, 1p is a MUCH better better better version of LSZ

I find diazedine to be a third rate psychedelic and I will never ever under any circumstances spend money on it ever again
 
I'm not sold on the idea that 100mcg 1P-LSD + 150mcg AL-LAD is any better than 200mcg of 1P-LSD alone would be. So far I have tried 100mcg of 1P-LSD by itself and the 1P-LSD/AL-LAD combo. Without doubt the combo was amazingly visual; however, the first two hours of the combo was a little physically uncomfortable, whereas 1P-LSD on its own was incredibly smooth. After the first two hours on the combination, I felt the trip switch gears and it was pure 1P-LSD bliss for the remainder. It was like after that point AL-LAD had nothing to contribute but eye candy. The addition of some MXE around the 4-6 hour mark was absolutely heavenly.


A friend of mine described 1P-LSD as elegant and I have to agree. It feels like the champagne of psychedelics, light and bubbly and all good feelings without even a hint of the sinister lurking around the corner. That said, I still find the depth of the trip to be more comparable to LSD than AL-LAD or even LSZ (which I find to be deeper than AL-LAD). There is something visceral about it, a primal connection felt simultaneously deep in your subconscious mind and throughout your physical roots, like this feeling has always been there and you have just found a way to tap into it. As I recorded some notes during my last trip I felt like I was able to access at will an external stream of consciousness, like I was plucking lines of pre-existing yet novel poetry from the ether.


I have to say that in my opinion, 1P-LSD is not indistinguishable from acid (of course, it could be my own expectancy bias making things seem different when they are in fact the same). The come up, for one, seems to take a full two hours (at least with 100mcg). While even the best LSD trips taken with optimal set and setting can often feel as though one is teetering on the edge of darkness, the whole 1P-LSD experience is so comfortable and comforting as to be almost anxiolytic. The visuals are less forceful, lacking the brightly lit neon tribal mesoamerican motif that I get from LSD and instead appearing to consist of a sparkling pastel swirling mass of pure energy. I might be allowing availability to sway my judgement, but at this point I’d go on record to tentatively say that I actually prefer 1P-LSD to LSD itself -- and I have never said that before about any of the 2C’s, numerous tryptamines, AL-LAD, LSZ, or even my favorite research chemical, DOC.
 
I tried just 100µ but for me the effect is different than LSD. It seems closer to ALD-52 (according to the few experience I red about it). And I do prefer 1p.
 
Some of you guys must do too many substances and way too often. I found 100mcg of 1p almost indistinguishable from good old time acid. Just a little weaker at the dose.
Try about 6 and you'll have something similar to Orange Sunshine. I say similar, because nothing was ever as strong as it. By the way, I have over 40 years of experience. 1p is the best analogue to date.
 
Seeing that 1p is available in powder form, has anyone become comfortable enough with the substance to attempt or think about doing a thumbprint? I do not suggest here that it is safe because of how new the substance is. I know that we do not know yet. I have imagined taking a thumbprint for years but never thought that the opportunity would ever exist because of lack of a supplier for powder LSD.
 
Doing a thumbprint is a pretty reckless thing to do, even if it's tried and true LSD. Check yourself for psychedelic machoism before you contemplate doing something like this. Then if you're sure you're not doing it for the wrong reasons, work your way up. 1P-LSD might be as safe as LSD, but we can't know for sure yet.
 
Planning on taking 200ug of the substance in a week, provided the weather is nice. Very excited for my second foray into this wonderful psychedelic treasure!

rwtrwt said:
Seeing that 1p is available in powder form, has anyone become comfortable enough with the substance to attempt or think about doing a thumbprint? I do not suggest here that it is safe because of how new the substance is. I know that we do not know yet. I have imagined taking a thumbprint for years but never thought that the opportunity would ever exist because of lack of a supplier for powder LSD.
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Interesting idea! I wouldnt be comfortable taking a thumbprint before dozens of trips with the substance to prepare myself though. Also, do we know if more or less of the powder would stick to your thumb from 1P vs "real" LSD? If not then we have no idea how much more intense a 1P thumbprint would be compared to an LSD print
 
Well, I tried 1P for the first time by itself yesterday. Dosed 600mcgs (had previously combined 100mcg with 7 hits of AL-LAD a month earlier.) I find the chemical to be drastically deeper than AL-LAD although the duration at the dose I took still had me noticeably tripping at +19hours which longer than a similar dose of LSD-25 would last me. This wasn't some unsafe venture either, I have loads of experience with high dose LSD so taking the analogs has been like a special treat. I enjoy AL-LAD most because it is short but I find it distinctly shallow but very visual, candy mostly. 1P isn't quite as visual as AL-LAD but it is a lot deeper and I felt reborn after the experience. Oddly enough AL-LAD did bring me some ego-loss and 1P did not. Next time I plan on trying a lower dose like 300 and seeing how that compares. LSZ and ETH-LAD are next on my high dose adventure list (however long it may take to get them that is)
 
festivus said:
Well, I tried 1P for the first time by itself yesterday. Dosed 600mcgs (had previously combined 100mcg with 7 hits of AL-LAD a month earlier.) I find the chemical to be drastically deeper than AL-LAD although the duration at the dose I took still had me noticeably tripping at +19hours which longer than a similar dose of LSD-25 would last me. This wasn't some unsafe venture either, I have loads of experience with high dose LSD so taking the analogs has been like a special treat. I enjoy AL-LAD most because it is short but I find it distinctly shallow but very visual, candy mostly. 1P isn't quite as visual as AL-LAD but it is a lot deeper and I felt reborn after the experience. Oddly enough AL-LAD did bring me some ego-loss and 1P did not. Next time I plan on trying a lower dose like 300 and seeing how that compares. LSZ and ETH-LAD are next on my high dose adventure list (however long it may take to get them that is)
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Ego loss is a fickle mistress, and you must remember that not all symptoms of the psychedelic experience manifest themselves in any given trip. Even with high dose ketamine and tried and true LSD-25 it is a crap shoot of what you'll get. Moments of infinity? Maybe. Visuals of some sort? Almost certainly- but are you going to be noticing the face in the brickwork wall as some bricks make themselves more prominent than others, or is it just going to be wall melting?

My point is, depending on many factors which we are completely ignorant of at the moment, some, all, most, or nearly none of the symptoms of psychedelia will manifest during any one adventure- the psychedelic journey is infinitely mutable.

Ego loss is one of the more noteworthy, but unpredictable effects.

What I can tell you 100% is this:

1p-LSD by it's self is 100% capable of bringing about ego death. I detailed the most promintent of my experiences in a recent trip report posted on here, which was incredibly scary at first, but then amazingly beautiful- I felt set adrift in an infinite ocean of concepts and ideas, realizing that the me who is not my soul is made up entirely of concepts that rely on other concepts, and exist as a framework to flesh out what and who it is I am.

I found myself unmoored to any specific concept, and that meant that I ceased to exist, and it was terrifying at first, but then incredibly liberating- I was shown how other people and things moor themselves in ME as a concept, and how we all form a framework of inter-dependent things and ideas. I explained it better in my previous post, but it was utterly profound, and left me gasping for air because it literally battering rammed the doors of my mind open, the truth burning into my soul like laser light pouring out of a sun.

Thinking about it again, a huge smile is on my face.

I love you all.

Namaste
 
some people just don't like psychedelics at first. The biggest group of these people are those who fear being 'out of control' because there are things hiding in the back of your brain you are not dealing with, namely traumas and psychic wounds that have healed badly, all stored up in a room in the back of your brain with a big

'DO NOT ENTER AT ANY TIME!
THANK YOU,
-THE MANAGEMENT'

The best thing that psychedelic use did for me was not to show me the beauty, the patterns, the ebb and flow and breathe of the Universe, although all those things are breathtaking- it was to show me the ugly that existed inside me so I could heal it, and realize that it is POSSIBLE to heal those hurts.

Then one day you will find that room with the sign is empty, and it has a grand view of the world, and you can now use it to entertain since you don't have to fear guests barging into the room on accident while looking for the bathroom.

Quite an involved analogy, but it is spot on in my experience.

Do you have any trauma in your past? I find that the fear of being out of control is almost always tied to such things.
 
Just for the record, I am an experienced person a la LSD and other hallucinogens, and I find that 1P doesn't do a lot for me under 300 ug. It was all fine and dandy, but it really started to shine at above 300 mics, at least for me. As far as being "just like L", I'd say it's a kissing cousin for sure, but absolutely lacks the wicked head fuck of LSD. I found it fun, controllable, less dark, and less visual than LSD, although the CEVs were lush, colorful, and full of morphing, ribbon-like, pastel geometry, with lots of pinks, yellows, blues, purples, etc. Kind of like AL-LAD, in way, but more vivid and "clean". 1P seems very "transparent", like you are tripping, but looking at everything through a kaleidoscopic lense, without all the dark trappings of a large, LSD dose. More funhouse-like, less "am I going to get through this" psychology. I find, generally, that AL, LSZ, and 1P ALL have WAY less head fuckery associated with them than the real article. For some it's good, but for me, I wouldn't mind more mind-fuck. I don't have easy access to LSD and miss the war between myself and the drug at higher doses. Tripping seems way to easy, in some ways, with these other lysergamides. Maybe I'm jaded, but that's my take on things. I'm just glad an elder psychonaut has such nice toys to play with...
 
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