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The Big & Dandy 1P-LSD Thread, Volume 1

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If the propionyl addition to this stuff indeed makes it a prodrug and not an active chemical of its own ...then basically what you have is just LSD .. The addition only acts as a time release mechanism . This seems to be the case based on my experience with it and the anecdotal reports Ive read.

You can't draw that conclusion based on experience and anecdotal reports. You're just guessing.
 
I tripped straight balls on 250 ug two days ago- I am only now after sleeping all yesterday able to put this together.

I tried to take notes, and they go like this:
8:20 AM:
250ug 1p-LSD swallowed, one chew
9:15 AM:
Starting to feel awesome!!!!!!!
12:45 pm
Some strange things going on...
3:15 pm
The nature of reality, it can be so beautiful if we let it!!! The infrastructure remains the same!!!!
6:12 pm
Still trippin, thought loops are crazy, not very visual


I will now try to put this in order.

Okay, so After returning home from a doctor's appt. I get home around 7:30 am and proceed to take a long shower and straighten up a bit, then making my way to the fridge and carefully taking two tabs off my strip, and cutting half of one off of one of the end tabs.

I stare it down for a bit, then chew it once and swallow them down, with the half tab getting in my throat, so I take a drink of apple cider.

I sit down to read for awhile, then after a bit realize i am too excited to concentrate, so I put on some cartoons.

Gradually I realize things are starting to feel weird, like whereas usually my thoughts would stack in a neat pile, now they are being stacked slightly to the left or the right, as if they were a stack of papers- before they would be a neat stack, now they are forming a much more messy one- the corners of the thought pages are not syncing up. I realize what a profound psychedelic thought that is, and check the clock, it is about an hour since I dropped.

I decide to take a walk outside, and I realize I am TRIPPING BALLS. The sky, the grass, they are all connected to themselves as concepts and to other concepts, and all the while my impressions are being stacked like paper, and they are getting more and more out of sync. So I sit down on a log, and try to focus, and I realize I can guide the paper impressions into syncing up, and then I think I wonder what would happen if I stacked the next page perpendicular to the last? I don't know what happened with that, I got distracted and somehow ended up back inside.

I look at my hand, as that always seems to get my trip going into over-drive, to see and understand how my body works, and suddenly notice the patterning geometry- it is cartoonish interlocking designs IDENTICAL to the ones I get when I am on LSD, but different from AL-LAD.

I realize my focus has expanded to include my peripheral vision, and I am taking in all the information of my visual sense at once and with no filter, and I weep a little bit, as I had been trying to find a substance that would do this for me, just like the acid I used to eat back in the 90s, but not AL-LAD, or LSZ, or really any of the RCs have been able to give me that.

So I explore my house in panorama vision, with colors being different than usual. Greens are still green, but they are attached to meanings and ideas now in a way I can't explain.

I crack a glow stick and head into the bathroom- IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!!! I hold it right to my eyes and watch the broken ampoule float in the glowing solution, seeing how amazingly complex the interactions between the air and liquid and glass and plastic are, and how I ignore things like this every day.

Eventually I wash my hands and the cold water feels SOOOOOOOO GOOOD, I honestly can not even impart the incredible truths held in the sensory input of that cold water. It tasted blue, if that makes any sense, and the sound from the tap smelled like, and I know this is going to sound weird, smelled like the lighting in my highschool hallway from way back in the day, which I noticed when I was originally tripping back in the 90s.

There was a lot more, but it's too much and too abstract to put into words.

Here are the cliff notes:

Other than the ones on my body, there was no geometry or real visuals of any kind, no closed eye visuals that I remember, but I was in child like bliss for so long I didn't really spend much time looking for them.

At first I thought that this substance just is a head trip with no visuals, but then I remembered that there were many trips I had on Lucy back in the day which were similar, it is a crap shoot as to what you get sometimes. Also, I tripped on AL-LAD two weeks ago, so that could have something to do with that.

All I know is that the acid 'feel' and head trip and spiritual undertone are DEFINITELY HERE with this one. Synethesia was FULL BLOWN and gloriously beautiful, and the body load was more of a body high, with no nausea and feelings of electric joy coursing through me starting about 50 minutes in. It's been so long since I dropped real acid I don't remember it feeling like this, reminiscent of MDMA actually.

All in all a great trip, but it lasted a LONG TIME. I think the pro-drug theory might be correct, as it would come in waves and I experienced what seemed to be several distinct peaks and was still having thought loops at about 10pm.

Even now I still have a bit of panorama vision, which is awesome since I am able to find things a bit easier. I tend to focus too narrowly and will thus miss things that are right in front of me, especially my keys on a cluttered table. I have had no trouble picking things out of the scenery since my trip ended and I hope to retain this ability.

I just wish there had been some more visuals- all I got was maybe ten minutes of patterns on my body, leading to a realization of how delicate and incredibly intricate our bodies and cardiovascular system are. Whereas on AL-LAD, I can usually follow that thread and eventually see into my body, getting kind of x-ray vision and profound joy at it's complexity, on 1p-LSD I got distracted onto something else and then there were no more appreciable visuals.

This one is a (pleasant) punch to the face guys, this is a FULL ON PSYCHEDELIC, and the road can be bumpier than AL-LAD.

Contrasting the two, I also found that 1P-LSD messed with my ability to communicate whereas AL-LAD does not do this, even on the strongest of trips.

Take it for what it's worth, but it's definitely active.
 
My reagent is fine, I keep it in the fridge and I tested it with other chemicals and got strong, instantaneous reactions. How many of the posters saying it reacts to 1P actually did the test? Have you reagent tested 1P, transform?

Yes, but how old is it? I tested and got a light purple reaction.
 
the least AL-LAD I have taken in one sitting has been 300 mics. On my first dance with the compound I was seeing a woman in the trees, like the background of the trees I was picking out the shape of a woman, sitting on a bough, undulating and beckoning to me and laughing- it was incredible, and on that same voyage I was able to get x-ray vision and see into my arm as I would flex my fingers, and was able to follow my vascular system back to my glowing heart.

It was incredible, but I remained grounded through all of it, and it was spiritually lacking.

Most of my AL-LAD experiences have been similar, very visual but shallow.

What kind of visuals did you get from the 1p?

I am hoping I am able to develop good visuals from this substance as I have had strong Acid trips before that were less visual and more headspace, so I may just chalk the lack to set and setting.

But please, share!

has anyone gotten detailed and strong geometry or patterning or closed eye visuals from this compound? If so what dosage?
 
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I find two weeks to be about optimal, but ten days will have you pretty much at baseline

but it also depends on the substance, there have been times I've had really lackluster LSZ experiences three weeks after last use, after about a week or five days if the dose is raised slightly you can acheive peak effects, but this is not recommended by me
 
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If I've had 380ug of dnm acid and thought it was underwhelming but strong (visually weak), but had some local acid which was incredible visually, and have tried both allad at 300ug mixed with pot/mdma, and lsz at 300ug mixed with pot/mdma and thought those trips were fucking stronger than the 400ug of dnm lsd, do you think 200ug of 1plsd to be easily manageable at potentially zero tolerance?

I have maybe 20-40 acid trips under my belt and general experience with various drugs. What about mixing it with 125-150mg of mdma/mda? How about mixing it with maybe 30-50mg of mxe instead of mdma/mda?

Also: anyone tried this with Noopept?
 
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I think I'm gonna trip. I took 350ug on Saturday night, 500ug tonight should be equivalent doing some research http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qvcw79&s=6#.VSc99fnF-Vo (found this in another thread on here)

Edit 3h later: I am tripping REALLY hard, like, getting lost in the carpet, getting lost in anything right now... but I can feel, at the same time, I should have waited longer in between trips. I don't know if I've ever tripped this hard but it doesn't have quite the same magic feel as it did a week ago.
 
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the least AL-LAD I have taken in one sitting has been 300 mics. On my first dance with the compound I was seeing a woman in the trees, like the background of the trees I was picking out the shape of a woman, sitting on a bough, undulating and beckoning to me and laughing- it was incredible, and on that same voyage I was able to get x-ray vision and see into my arm as I would flex my fingers, and was able to follow my vascular system back to my glowing heart.

It was incredible, but I remained grounded through all of it, and it was spiritually lacking.

Most of my AL-LAD experiences have been similar, very visual but shallow.

What kind of visuals did you get from the 1p?

I am hoping I am able to develop good visuals from this substance as I have had strong Acid trips before that were less visual and more headspace, so I may just chalk the lack to set and setting.

But please, share!


I hoenestly cant find much difference to acid visually at this point. I have now had 200ug of this compound and it was visually incredible. I did get CEV geotry and OEV hologram geometric overlay. Also spirit/deity faces with shimmering coins/paisley type designs flowing from it like a mandala. I want to say they were atypical acid visuals....but I fucking swear acid NEVER ceases to surprise me with how malleable the visual expereicne is...sometimes its more phen-like "cold/mechanical" sometimes its majestic tryptamine and othertimes its strange acid collages of vegas casinos and UFOs with dayglo baboon faced scorpions coming out of the exhaust ....This 1p definetly felt "crystalline" in this way....it could show me anthing....but only further experimentation will tell.
 
I've never taken that much LSD before, 500ugs. When I came up, like the first hour and a half, holy shit, I felt so good, it was like last week, like my soul was orgasming or something, it was incredible, then I just started to trip too hard hahaha. After 2 hours or so, I was just like getting lost staring at my carpet, hahaha, it was wild, that was for sure, but the moments were I felt like I did this past weekend were definitely less and I feel like I wasted some of my shit, TBH. I watched Oslo, August 31st and omg, that was like the worst decision ever. Great movie, but holy shit that was like my life playing before my eyes while I'm on 500mics of fucking acid and oh my god. I got caught up so much into that storyline and the existential crisis that guy was going through, and his suicide, just like holy fucking shit. And it's just passed a few days anniversary of another BL'ers OD from 2011 (nchz) who I still remember every year and who I've been thinking about a lot recently, and that was just like too much to fucking handle emotionally. Jesus christ.

I feel better now though, lol. Definitely going to wait longer in between trips and keep my dose around 350ug in the future... although, we'll see. That'll probably be how I approach my first trip back in like a month, but I really want to test out higher doses, like 500ug again, with a longer wait in between trips and maybe 700ug+. Although, if it's just getting lost in the carpet and how long I wait in between trips doesn't add any more magic to it, then IDK if that high of a dose is worth it.
 
I feel like I got gipped out of the visuals.

I had hologram pattern overlays on my body, and ONLY on my body, of paisley designs and peace signs and swirling cartoonish letters, but it was very faint compared to my last AL-LAD experience, and once I was focused on something else there was not any visuals to be repeated.

Then again, I remember the first maybe fifteen times I did acid how different the effects were each time. Sometimes I would have crazy visuals, sometimes I would notice 'the pattern within the pattern' in a brick wall or a tree's greenery, or even a painting with organic things in it. I remember I used to do this naturally without drugs all the time when I was little, seeing ants and monsters in the wallpaper print. Anyways, one day I would be 'seeing the writing on the wall' and another time I would be getting strange effects of different parts of wood grain or patterns jumping to the fore, and still other times there was just a strange head trip that I still can literally taste after all these years when i listen to the music I was hearing during those experiences.

So maybe it's just too early to tell. One thing is for sure though, the spiritual teacher is inside this one. more ability to show you things and heal things (not always a pleasant experience to be healed, what is that saying, pain is the feeling of your body putting it's self right? I think the same goes for your mind)

Whereas I was able to coast through AL-LAD and other novel lysergimides without too much introspection, 1P-LSD held my face right up to some really unpleasant parts of me, and after accepting that that was a good thing, I felt renewed, and I have re-discovered a profound joy at just being alive to take in breath even if I accomplish nothing else in my life. I had been wanting spiritual epiphany, but all I got from the other lyserigimides was a light show and a pale shadow of anything appraoching lasting and positive change, although AL-LAD does act as a kind of anti-depressant for a week or so after dosing.

I'm glad people are getting visuals, that malleability is a hallmark of the good old Lucy, whereas I feel like many of the newer analogues are much more predictable. There is a reason it's called a trip, you don't know where good Lucy is going to take you, whereas when you drop AL-LAD, you know you're gonna have a ball, and you have a pretty good idea how things are going to go, and that is also something that is valuable.

I've never taken that much LSD before, 500ugs. When I came up, like the first hour and a half, holy shit, I felt so good, it was like last week, like my soul was orgasming or something, it was incredible, then I just started to trip too hard hahaha. After 2 hours or so, I was just like getting lost staring at my carpet, hahaha, it was wild, that was for sure, but the moments were I felt like I did this past weekend were definitely less and I feel like I wasted some of my shit, TBH. I watched Oslo, August 31st and omg, that was like the worst decision ever. Great movie, but holy shit that was like my life playing before my eyes while I'm on 500mics of fucking acid and oh my god. I got caught up so much into that storyline and the existential crisis that guy was going through, and his suicide, just like holy fucking shit. And it's just passed a few days anniversary of another BL'ers OD from 2011 (nchz) who I still remember every year and who I've been thinking about a lot recently, and that was just like too much to fucking handle emotionally. Jesus christ.

I feel better now though, lol. Definitely going to wait longer in between trips and keep my dose around 350ug in the future... although, we'll see. That'll probably be how I approach my first trip back in like a month, but I really want to test out higher doses, like 500ug again, with a longer wait in between trips and maybe 700ug+. Although, if it's just getting lost in the carpet and how long I wait in between trips doesn't add any more magic to it, then IDK if that high of a dose is worth it.

I know what you mean. Even if all the subjective effects are there, that 'trip magic' only gets stored up so quickly. It's like jizz. If you go blowing your load all the time you eventually run out of juice, it takes time to get back up to peak efficiency. I think we only have so much 'spiritual jizz' in us, and Acid and certain other psychedelics release it in one big whopping soul orgasm, you feel it in that certain bliss when the curtain is pulled back, kind of like, but very distinct from, MDMA, where everything is good and you are just so amazingly thankful you are able to experience this moment as a living entity in the universe at this exact moment.

About two weeks and you'll be ready again. I used to think it had to do with coming 100% back to baseline, but in all truth an incredible acid trip can RESET WHAT BASELINE EVEN IS and make you a much happier well adjusted person. You don't have to have completely negated the last trip, you just need to give enough time for your brain to get it's legs under it.
 
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but it also depends on the substance, there have been times I've had really lackluster LSZ experiences three weeks after last use, after about a week or five days if the dose is raised slightly you can acheive peak effects, but this is not recommended by me
I think that is just the character of LSZ, sometimes I take it and trip balls, but most time I barely get anything at all out of it. Seems completely random whether you're tripping for 8 hours + or just on the verge on 450 mics

For me LSZ very rarely, regardless of time between experiences with lysergamides, very rarely evolves into anything approaching full on psychedelia. I have found AL-LAD to be much more predictable, and I hope that while effects may be variable like it's big sister, that 1P is consistently 'something' rather than just barely or almost 'something'

If I've had 380ug of dnm acid and thought it was underwhelming but strong (visually weak), but had some local acid which was incredible visually, and have tried both allad at 300ug mixed with pot/mdma, and lsz at 300ug mixed with pot/mdma and thought those trips were fucking stronger than the 400ug of dnm lsd, do you think 200ug of 1plsd to be easily manageable at potentially zero tolerance?

I have maybe 20-40 acid trips under my belt and general experience with various drugs. What about mixing it with 125-150mg of mdma/mda? How about mixing it with maybe 30-50mg of mxe instead of mdma/mda?

Also: anyone tried this with Noopept?

Depends on the vendor. most times Lucy-herself-almighty-the-queen is characterized as underwhelming the strength of the tabs has been suspect or outright proven to be overstated, the best dnm tabs out right now are (supposedly) verified via lab at ~110ug. If you are not getting it from an extremely trusted vendor, I would say you probably got under-dosed tabs. Looking back to the old days, other than some white blotters I got way back in the day literally every street acid source I would acquire from was over-stating the dosage of their tabs either from honest misinforation on their part or deliberate hype in trying to sell off their wares.

Depending on dosage Lucy can feel like several different drugs, with effects from microdosing being different from threshold which is different from heavy which is different from crazy, etc.

I have found with acid that until you reach higher dosages you will get some or most of the psychedelic phenomena, but once you get to a certain threshold be prepared for level 8 geometry.

I once took an entire ten strip of green gel tabs back in the day because I had gotten pink ones of the same design before that apparently had degraded due to poor storage, and so I thought same design, same potency.

That was one of the hardest trips of my life, with ideas and concepts taking on physical visual form in the guise of glyphs or pictograms that were part of a 'mother language' that I somehow could understand perfectly but did not communicate in words but in basic ideas and feelings completely unable to be expressed via spoken or written english or german.

There was one point where as I was peaking my friend asked me if I wanted to go to 'the woods', which meant this place we had made for ourselves on this overgrown farm land that abutted behind my buddy's house. The concept of 'the woods' appeared to me as a locust with a fluffy tree head glyph in three dimensions that summed up the idea of 'the woods' perfectly, and then branched out into beams of light that formed other glyphs for 'river' (a winding line forming a vortex leading to a wave), animals (a luminous cat's eye), and ticks, which wasn't really ticks so much as 'parasite' or 'bad life thief' which was a completely black on black shiny like obsidian jagged object that looked kind of like a tear in the universe.

Thus far that has been my only time experiencing type 8A geometry or visuals, I am curious if they can be evoked with 1p-LSD

With AL-LAD I can get something similar to level 8B geometry, in that I can focus in on my body and kind of explore through my blood vessels and see how my body works, and to a degree my brain- but I have never had the full blown understanding of the mind's deepest processes that is apparently the hallmark of level 8B
 
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I could imagine Clandestine Blaze being difficult to listen to, Sargeist not so much. Have you heard Mikko Aspa's project 'Nicole 12'? Yeah, its fucking nuts.

LOL
Between Shpongle and Phish references, a Mikko Aspa project is pretty much the LAST thing I'd have expected to see mentioned on BL.
And also the last thing I'd like to hear while tripping! Straight up noise is another thing though.
 
I know what you mean. Even if all the subjective effects are there, that 'trip magic' only gets stored up so quickly. It's like jizz. If you go blowing your load all the time you eventually run out of juice, it takes time to get back up to peak efficiency. I think we only have so much 'spiritual jizz' in us, and Acid and certain other psychedelics release it in one big whopping soul orgasm, you feel it in that certain bliss when the curtain is pulled back, kind of like, but very distinct from, MDMA, where everything is good and you are just so amazingly thankful you are able to experience this moment as a living entity in the universe at this exact moment.

About two weeks and you'll be ready again. I used to think it had to do with coming 100% back to baseline, but in all truth an incredible acid trip can RESET WHAT BASELINE EVEN IS and make you a much happier well adjusted person. You don't have to have completely negated the last trip, you just need to give enough time for your brain to get it's legs under it.

Yeah, I agree. I feel like 2c-e is acid with better visuals but no magic, and that acid trip last night was still acid, I had some magic, but not as much as I did before and it ended up just being a crazy visual trip, which I didn't even like as much as I would have on 2c-e. Lesson learned. It was still a good trip though.
 
So as it's seeming this is more than likely a prodrug to Lucy and I was just wondering if anyone has had issues with reintegrating into normal life with either this or acid or have either purely alterered reality for anyone / opened a part of the brain which should totally be left closed ? Just as I'm not a very experienced Lucy user just a handful of times and was quite curious of this (regardless of set or setting)
 
I have found with acid that until you reach higher dosages you will get some or most of the psychedelic phenomena, but once you get to a certain threshold be prepared for level 8 geometry.


Yes interestingly acid can give you full spectrum effects at low doses....and AL-LAD seems to be a compound which lacks in the visual department until you dose high. Its interesting how many people say that AL is "more visual" than acid bc I find it less so. Further, I found what visuals I did get to be muddled in the background and/or underdeveloped...for lack of better words. In my experience LSD is the superior chemical for visuals but I havent yet taken an enormous dose of AL-LAD. I find the higher I go the more muddled my senses get in general. I find that the clarity and lucidity begins to lessen and that unfortunate bc I like LSD for its lucidity. AL-lAD was very stoning for me and I felt more high on a cannabis-like drug than a lysergamide TBH.

8A geometry or visuals, I am curious if they can be evoked with 1p-LSD

With AL-LAD I can get something similar to level 8B geometry, in that I can focus in on my body and kind of explore through my blood vessels and see how my body works, and to a degree my brain- but I have never had the full blown understanding of the mind's deepest processes that is apparently the hallmark of level 8B

I have heard of this 8A and 8B gemotery....can you explain what it is though?

LOL
Between Shpongle and Phish references, a Mikko Aspa project is pretty much the LAST thing I'd have expected to see mentioned on BL.
And also the last thing I'd like to hear while tripping! Straight up noise is another thing though.


HA yes indeed. I suppose Im a rare breed ...unfortunatly many "black metallers" follow the whole meat head hessian dogma...Im not one of them....but how can you say that psychedelics do not compliment hypnotic sound of black metal....I dunno....bu I dont think Im the only one the likes to mix the two! :)

So as it's seeming this is more than likely a prodrug to Lucy and I was just wondering if anyone has had issues with reintegrating into normal life with either this or acid or have either purely alterered reality for anyone / opened a part of the brain which should totally be left closed ? Just as I'm not a very experienced Lucy user just a handful of times and was quite curious of this (regardless of set or setting)


Well...yes it can profoundly change you....but so can meditation. They have found that the brain enters similar states. The difference is that psychedelics kick the doors of perception open while meditation slowly changes how you percieve/interact with the world. I would say that if you use acid wisely you will be fine....but dont be alarmed if you see the world differently....all experiences change us...even on a neurochemical level...acid can be an intense experience....thus an acid trip will change you to a greater degree than the mundane experience of walking to the corner store to grab a beer, for example.
 
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LOL
Between Shpongle and Phish references, a Mikko Aspa project is pretty much the LAST thing I'd have expected to see mentioned on BL.
And also the last thing I'd like to hear while tripping! Straight up noise is another thing though.

Yeah, I feel like this is almost blasphemous. The Grateful Dead would be mortified :D

I only really knew his work through Deathspell Omega. I think Nicole 12 is quite disturbing. I don't get the power electronics obsession with paedophilia.

This song is fucked up, and really not nice to listen to ever (hence the NSFW) :|. I commend the ability for a musician to make something really effecting though.

NSFW:


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And as willow earlier in the thread got some which (supposedly) were 200 ug, it seems some one is already laying their own blotter.

I feel about 75% confident of the strength of these tabs. But, of course, I and they could be misinformed. I didn't find 1 to be really strong, but more then enough to get me having a full-on, clean acid trip (I could think of it in no other way, this was basically LSD imo). I didn't notice a really increased come-up, because LSD itself always takes hours to get going for me. Perhaps slightly longer or more gradual. Either way, I felt a lessened anxiety and sense of disturbance during the comeup. I guess this is what was being called "extended-release" LSD.

I would imagine that 1P-LSD is lightly less potent by weight...?

FWIW, I think I got mine from a 'hobbyist' I was in contact with so I can't really confirm their origin.
 
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...I have heard of this 8A and 8B gemotery....can you explain what it is though?...

A great resource for geometry in general
explanation of 8A geometry, what Tim Leary called unlocking the 8th circuit of human conciousness
http://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/8A_Geometry_-_Exposure_to_semantic_concept_network

Here's something on 8B, although I have never experienced it full blown, or at all depending on what definition you go by
One thing is for sure though, level 8A was one of the most profound and beautiful experiences of my life, and for literally years afterward, any time I was inclined to feel sad I would recall that amazing experience and realize that after that everything else is gravy.
http://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/8B_Geometry_-_Exposure_to_inner_mechanics_of_consciousness

That site also has good info on subjective effects, and K-holes, as well as directions to navigate them better

So as it's seeming this is more than likely a prodrug to Lucy and I was just wondering if anyone has had issues with reintegrating into normal life with either this or acid or have either purely alterered reality for anyone / opened a part of the brain which should totally be left closed ? Just as I'm not a very experienced Lucy user just a handful of times and was quite curious of this (regardless of set or setting)

I have never, even during crazy crazy CRAZY trips ever been unable to function after a maximum of three days.

The trauma comes from really believeing that you will never recall how to interact in human society again, because once your ego disappears, all the knowledge of niceties and complex and subtle human interaction are gone.

just remember it always comes back.

What helped me was to make a sign in dayglo letters that says this:

REMEMBER:
this will be over far too soon, enjoy it and remember you can never not find your way back
focus instead on making the best of this rare situation and thrum with the beauty of the machinery of the universe.

oh, and then I tape that somewhere conspicuous

holy crap, I just re-read that geometry article, and in it they make mention of 'ego stacking'

That is literally exactly what happened but I did not have words for it in my last trip report.

Where my thoughts were stacking on top of each other in a messy way that left their corners not synced, and this had profound psychological effects.

Looks like 1p really is the real deal
 
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