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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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Ketamine the date rape drug

I have heard this from educators and seen it on anti drug websites
wouldnt u need like half a gram of k oral to go unconscious
wouldnt the girl taste it in her drink
ketamine turns into norketamine in the liver and it comes on slowly
are there any reported cases of this
 
the only way i could see this really happening is if your sitter decides to fondle your junk while you are in an iv enduced khole.. in which case i doubt itd get reported because somehow i doubt anyone would tell the police about how captain crunch decided to rape them during a magical journey @ legoland.. but thats just my 2 cents..
 
I've heard of GHB being used as a date rape drug, but blaming ketamine for date rape seems like a stretch. Sounds like standard bullshit drug propoganda to me. Rape is a very emotional issue, especially in this country. Scream rape and blame a drug is a good way to keep it illegal. If we will consider allowing the death penalty for rape cases, date rape drug legislation should be a walk in the park.
 
^ not really thats mostly media hype. they seem to have missed te major one though and its getting fuckin rampant. its been used for thousands of years and taken countless young woman victim. i think all those degenerate scumbags call it alcohol.
 
yeah i'd say if anything, alcohol has been used 1000x more actively in daterape than any scheduled substance. it's just not preached because then people may start to question why it's legal in the first place.
 
I know that alcohol definitely makes a woman more horny and open and more likely to consent to sex. But if a drunk woman consciously desires and accepts sex is that still considered rape? If a drunk woman is screaming "no" and trying to fight it while the purp continues to nail her that is definitely rape, but if she's drunk does that give her the status of the "underage statutory rape thing" where she is not in a position to make a conscious decision to consent to sex? Not that I'm all that attracted to women in that state anyway and it would feel weird and "not quite right" i just mean legally speaking.

I view "date rape drugs" as something that is consumed by the woman without her knowledge or consent, but women drink alcohol on their own accord and are quite aware of what they are drinking.
 
oh ya, back to the topic at hand. From the 2 times i did ketamine (IM, which i very much did not like) I felt it was the ultimate anaphrodisiac, it completely stripped away any concept of sexuality. It was actually this type of effect that made me hate it. It made me feel so incredibly non-human and non-me, like dead in a way. Well i like life, i like my sexuality, and I think I'll enjoy my life as a sexual human being while I'm alive, there's plenty of time to have no sexuality or personality when i'm dead.
 
Ummm....I guess it's entirely possibly, but they would have to be in a MASSIVE whole, an anesthetic dose, just be unconcious.

The GBL I've been using lately, I found the right doses, but one time I did a little too much, and I was OUT for an hour or two. Totally unrousable. I gave my lady some too, a little too much.....you can literally beat someone if they take too much G and won't wake up.

GHB is an adults substance, very dangerous and irresponsible people can really do some damage in the rape thing :-\
 
It might have been used extremely rarely (like, few case report status) as a date rape. One of my only thoughts is that they were told it was cocaine, and hence did a fatty line, then sorta lost control of their body.

But, I remember reading an article about how women who claimed to have been 'drugged' were tested the day after and more than half (can't remember the exact #) tested negative for GHB, benzos, ketamine, etc. They researchers went on to hypothesize that claiming to have been drugged is in a way more socially acceptable than saying you got way way too drunk and had sex with some dude you shouldn't have, and that it clears your conscious of any 'bad decision making'.
 
When I lived near the mexican border I did tons of ketamine. It could definitely be used as a date rape drug. When you are really deep in a k-hole, nothing will wake you up. I once did 2 rails the size of my pinky finger(a straw in each nostril). I lost consciousness before I even finished. I came to hours later with blood all over me. Roommates told me I smashed my head off the table and got a bloody nose when i passed out.

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yes, elemya's story definitely belongs in The Dark Side forum. she is deep down a sweet girl, but extremely compulsive,manipulative,etc,etc when ketamine is involved. ultimately she is an addict who should stop ketamine completely simply because of the toll it has already taken on her life. I am not one to preach however because I enjoy k too and go on my own binges. I hope she either stops completely or learns how to moderate her use in a sustainable way, but i seriously doubt the latter option is very viable.

also, after experiencing IM ket with good human grade, i wonder why people bother at all with bumps/powder (unless they're out at a party or something). perhaps that is all that's available for some. because i have found the entire experience 100x smoother/more enjoyable when administered via IM, not to mention how much is conserved when compared to cooking it.
 
I just received 100mg pure K, I'm so excited, got to wait 5 days before I can use it though. Am doing 1 month of sobriety but that ends soon. I'm going to IM it, can't wait, will be my first time properly doing K. I know with DXM weed after the trip or near the end brings back some of the effect, does that apply with K as well?
 
I only know ketamine as a pleasant substance to snort. Doesn't hurt at all and causes as good as no discomfort at all. You barely feel it up your nose. The ketamine I had sounds a lot like what your friends cooked out and was by the way also cooked out by a friend. We also got some bigger pieces of chrystal but it was very easy to crush and would easily turn into a shiny white powder.

From more then one source I know ketamine is supposed to be quite easy on the nose and nót cause a burn or pain, and especially not a nose bleed! So I think something is wrong with the ketamine, maybe the person boiled it out wrong or maybe there's something added to it. The only advise I also have is the baking powder, you'd have to take more but it would thin it out and thus make it softer on the nose. Another advise I could give is get ketamine from another source that doesn't hurt your nose in the first place, its supposed to be relatively easy to snort.
 
azgaza said:
I only know ketamine as a pleasant substance to snort. Doesn't hurt at all and causes as good as no discomfort at all. You barely feel it up your nose. The ketamine I had sounds a lot like what your friends cooked out and was by the way also cooked out by a friend. We also got some bigger pieces of chrystal but it was very easy to crush and would easily turn into a shiny white powder.

From more then one source I know ketamine is supposed to be quite easy on the nose and nót cause a burn or pain, and especially not a nose bleed! So I think something is wrong with the ketamine, maybe the person boiled it out wrong or maybe there's something added to it. The only advise I also have is the baking powder, you'd have to take more but it would thin it out and thus make it softer on the nose. Another advise I could give is get ketamine from another source that doesn't hurt your nose in the first place, its supposed to be relatively easy to snort.
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Absolutely not... K hurts! Ive experimented with all sorts of K, crystal/ powder/ vials/ pharmaceutical human grade, and IT ALL BURNS LIKE A MUTHER. Perhaps some people can take it better, but it ALWAYS leaves my nose BURNING and my eyes watering...8) could just be me tho <3 Oh and nose bleeds from K are quite common for me too, tho it usually happens the day after.
 
Hmm odd.. its well known about 2c's that they hurt badly but I found ketamine very easy to snort, most people I know do aswell, although ofcourse everyone's nose is different from the inside, some people's nose might be more sensitive to specific chemicals. I do know one person who is sort of allergic to ketamine, and has sneezing attacks for over half an hour from snorting one line, you might be allergic to it aswell?
 
dont think so... it hurts my boyfriend (delsyd) and friends when they give it a go too... USUALLY just for the first bump, then you get all sedated and feeling swirly and then it ceases to hurt. I now prefer IM's of K to snorting simply because it hurts my poor precious nose too much.
 
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