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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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e1evene1even said:
^that waking up, or semi-conscious dream type feeling is something I can relate to, although instead of pushing through the experience, I backed away from it. Maybe next time, I'll try to explore it further. I'd be interested to know more about it, especially the method of administration and the timing and amounts of the dose(s).



I've never come across K in a vial. It's always been a powder.
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You can definatly get K in vials. Freshly cooked up its very nice. ;)
 
tash123 said:
You can definatly get K in vials. Freshly cooked up its very nice. ;)
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How do you think all K is sold and used in Pharmacies and Vetinary practices and hospitals all over the world!! In a vial like all other liquid drugs.
 
oh, delta_9! fancy seeing you here... whodathunk it, the ketamine thread. :D

I'm still waiting for my next run with K... probably not soon. but some day...
 
zebedee23 said:
absolutely nothing wrong with using a clean cigarette or rollie filter as a filter. serves 99% smack junkies fine every day. Whats a 'nodnormal' by the way??
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zebedee23 said:
im not saying dont use a filter, anything injected must be filtered, just that a new ,clean cigarette filter, one you buy in packs for rolling tobacco, is fine to use. You dont need to be so paranoid to go out and buy a sergical filter from the chemist if they even sell such a thing!
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i didn't say cig filters are horrible, i was saying sterile cotton is much cleaner and safer overall. and the reason smack junkies use cig filters is b/c a) they have nothing else around or b)are in a hurry to shoot and don't want to wait to get a sterile one. not everyone has needle exchange places to go to.

also, i never said that you said not to use a filter, i was saying that sterile cotton is much safer than cig filters overall, thats all.

and lastly, you asked what a "nodnormal" is? lmao, that is the user that you were responding to and said to use cig filters. i was saying to him that sterile cotton filters are much safer. maybe you should think next time before you post.
 
Ketamine is such a dope drug.

I was a big fan back in the day. Used to do a vial every week for a month. Can't go wrong with that drug. Some decent visuals at higher doses and makes you feel damn good.

Snorting it is god awful though. Burns your nose like a bitch. Cocaine is the only thing I've snorted outside of that and it's beyond better in your nose than k.
 
chrisinabox said:
i didn't say cig filters are horrible, i was saying sterile cotton is much cleaner and safer overall. and the reason smack junkies use cig filters is b/c a) they have nothing else around or b)are in a hurry to shoot and don't want to wait to get a sterile one. not everyone has needle exchange places to go to.
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In the U.K needle exchanges give people cigarette filters to use as a filter for injection. I dont believe they would be allowed to do this if there was anything wrong with using them for this purpose.
 
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^maybe if they are the clean ones for rolling cigs but not ones already made into cigs is what i was talking about. those are bad. i still think sterile cotton is the best overall.
 
B9 said:
Do they ?

When I used to get the exchange packs they wouldn't supply filters at all due to fear of being sued ?
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Not in the packs already made up given out at most exchange chemists . The good exchanges will give you everything seperate including small ampoules of sterile water, little prepackaged sterile metal cups to cook your hit up on which incidentally have a filter in the pack, packs of cigarette filters( for rollies), Small devices to chop the end of your needle off, colourfull caps to distinguish which pin is yours. Anything is possible in todays UK needle exchange. The only usefull thing iv not seen supplied is a tourniquet.
 
JuicyJay said:
Ok it's possible my daily and heavy usage is catching up with me:\

I've been having chest/stomach pains for a nearly two weeks. I went to the hospital a week ago, after a week of these pains not going away. I had a chest x ray, and told them about my usage. I figure if it does have anything to do with the k, it's best to be honest about my habit.

They diagnosed me with Costocondritis

When patients have a pain in the chest and a swelling is felt by the Doctor they will feel pain when the ribs are pressed just to the side of the large bone in the middle of the chest, they are often diagnosed with a usually harmless condition called Tietze�s syndrome, also known as costocondritis.


It's very possible that's what I have, and it's painful and it lasts a while, up to 6 weeks.

Now, what else I'm thinking is it could possibly be a stomach ulcer. So, I don't know how to tell the difference, because I have a friend who's had Costocondritis, who says they've felt the same pain I do now, and another who's had a stomach ulcer, and felt the same pain. Is there any test I can do to tell the difference? I just started taking rolaids today, so I guess if the pain goes away, it would have been a stomach ulcer, or it could just be my tissue just normally healing.

Is there anything to be truly concerned about my health?

I just read the post above me, could just be the k-pains.....
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Probably K-pains. I have had them so bad that I would consider killing myself just to end them. They can be so painful that you can't see, you get lightheaded you're on the verge of passing out yet you never do. Drinking shit tons of water helps most of the time but sometimes it feels like it just builds up pressure. I have learned that sometimes water helps, sometimes it makes it worst. Sometimes food helps, sometimes it makes it worst. If you can shit, it might help. If you can throw up sometimes it helps, but sometimes it make it worst. It is different every time. I usually drink tons of water, throw up, munch a tiny bit of food, and repeat this until I find which things help that particular K-pain session. They'll last 20-250mins, usually right around 40mins. 9/10 times for my group of ketter friends it in just below the ribs but occasionally it will be much lower down. It feels as if the ketamine is just crystallizing around your bowels and building pressure.

I'm very familiar with k-pains so if you have any other questions let me know. I haven't had them for awhile since I cut back. Less water you drink day to day the easier you'll get them though. Also the older you are and males seam to get them more easy than females. 1g+ a day for several days or several grams in one day and they show up for me---I drink tons of water. About 6 gallons a week of water alone.



zebedee23 said:
I see folks talkin bout K pains!! K is one of the most psycologically addictive drugs around, in london people call it techno smack. And when used everyday for many months or years can and most likely will cause many many BAD physical problems. Stomach Ulcers and Bad kidney problems resulting in pissing blood or even crystalls(possibly K) are very common. I know of three people who have holes in their septum, one who cant talk proplerly cause of it. I have Tinnitus, constant ringing in my ears from K abuse(Not from sound systems!!) and have friends who have the same. As for K being a strong anti depressant I would say abuse psycadelics for many years and you will much more likely end up depressed Guaranteed! Long term K abuse will eventually lead to psycosis. Its so easy to get in to K and really respect it and only do it once in a while in a good setting but a few years down the line your doing it all day every day wherever you are, in bed, while having a bath, on the train or plane, etc.. You end up not giving a fuck about anything except K. With K most of your tolerence never comes back like other drugs. Eventually after maybe 8 years after almost driving myself permanently insane the K itself told me I had to stop and one day after trying for a while i just stopped though i admit i will do a line every few months maybe and then be disgusted with myself!! Just be carefull before you know it it will control your life.

Id just like to add that i have a few friends who are still caining K and are so fukt up. They cant talk properly ever, cant recognise people, no memory, cant do most basic things. I actually dont know any other drug ,maybe asside from meth which isnt a problem here in the UK, that can grab hold of you and screw you up like K. I have a heroin habbit and i would rather have that than a K one again believe me.
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I'm curious to hear how much your friends with these problems use to know what to expect for myself. Between my GF and I, me using a tad more we have consumed about a half pound of 97% pure racemic in the last three months. Other than when we don't use and come down a day or two later we don't have any noticeable side effects other than cravings and some slight memory problems for me but only over the time I used that much. I have also had extream memory problems since I was a child and most drugs hit me there hard. After we stop using the next day we usually sleep 10-14 hours with 1-2 two hour naps that day. Sometimes I get slightly sorta twitching things. Still I have to say the side effects of K are less than anything else I have seen heavily abused, besides maybe weed for others---though for me weed is even worst. This is what really allowed myself to get bad into k because it was so safe and at first there was no addiction. I used coke + meth daily for ~4-5 months and coke, meth, and h daily for an additional 10 weeks and quit that a hell of a lot easier than a couple months of using k ~5 days weekly.

Anyways I'm done rambling. Ketamines addiction is very real, and many of my friends that have had H, coke, and k problems at one time or another agree ketamine to have more a hold on your balls.


fizzacyst said:
You are injecting it in into a muscle, so its very important to make sure that you do not introduce foreign bacteria like 2cm down into your muscles where it can form an abscess. Thats all kinds of trouble.

Were you talking about IVing it or something? W/ smack, people are (usually) making very shallow injections to hit a vein, not a deep injection, and people that are dirty with all this do get abscesses and other problems. If you are going to put it in a muscle, you need to sterilize it by running it through a micron filter. You should do that with IV shots too, but its particularly important with IM injections.
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I've heard many many warnings on BL about abscesses and I gotta say you shouldn't worry about them. My small group of ketter friends do over 300 injections weekly all together without practicing sterile techniques and we haven't gotten an abscess yet. I know how stupid we sound but to be totally honest it is hard to not pick up the needle out of the carpet that you dropped when you are in a K-hole because you simply have no idea what you just did. Then you set it by your stash and by the time you redose you never remember it happening. I'm not recommending you get stupid about it like we have been but as long as you use some common since you'll be fine.
 
Trying ketamine for the first time in a few hours.....

Basically my friend is getting some ketamine tonight and I'm gonna be trying it for the first time.
Are there any tips/recommendations for first time ket use?
How big a line should I snort?
My friend said something about putting on a "kill bill" DVD on and snorting enough to get down the K hole/into the film "kill bill"? (he said it's amazing).
This all sounds fascinating to me but I'm a little apprehensious.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks. :)
 
Cornishman said:
Basically my friend is getting some ketamine tonight and I'm gonna be trying it for the first time.
Are there any tips/recommendations for first time ket use?
How big a line should I snort?
My friend said something about putting on a "kill bill" DVD on and snorting enough to get down the K hole/into the film "kill bill"? (he said it's amazing).
This all sounds fascinating to me but I'm a little apprehensious.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks. :)
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The ammount you snort will varry depending on how hard you want to trip. I'd recomend 50mg to start off with for your first time and probably snort 25mg in each nostral. And personaly I cant watch tv/movies on ketamine.
 
Start slow.... A 30-40mg bump is a good start. If after 10 minutes the effects are non-existing, you can take another 30mg bump.

Or if you want you can take 100mg all at once, and then you should be good.

K-holing isn't a very good idea for a first timer, so I wouldn't suggest it...

Have something strong to drink on hand (I find Coke works best) because the drips can make some people gag. Don't spit. out the drips... this will get them all over your taste buds and the taste will be worse.

Let us know how it goes :P
 
Start with small bumps if you're really anxious, but if you want to get a good idea of what K is really like try a small line and see where that takes you. I would start small regardless because I tried to hole my first time (not to mention I was alone too) and it was very confusing.

And I'd avoid TV/movies, at a certain point they just become distracting. Stick with low lighting and relaxing music.
 
yeah once you becomed accutomed to the high, THEN try k-holing, but for the first time go with very small bumps. if it's good K one small bump will make you trip!
 
If you have an lsd blotter laying around, this might be worth trying, as it has improved the lucidity of my ketamine experiences immensely: get your blotter and cut it up into like 5-10 pieces and eat one of those tiny pieces. This will be just enough LSD to get the nootropic effects, and not enough to induce a trip at all. I think you will find that if you consume the ketamine as planned, the experience will not be colored with the signature of LSD except for increased lucidity and increased recall of the ketamine experience.

For your first time doing ketamine, be sure not to overdo it because it will get bizarre. But also don't worry if you think you've taken too much because its one of the safest recreational compounds currently in use. Happy trails, friend. :)
 
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