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The Big and Dandy Ketamine Thread (Next iteration)

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just so you know, 250-400mg is A LOT of k. even when i was railing lines every weekend for a month or 2, i never had to take more than 150-175mg to go into a k-hole and that was at the higher end of my dosing scale (i usually stuck to 130-150mg). granted, i'm 5'3" 120 lbs but still, that is an extremely excessive dose for a beginner.

oh and k tastes like shit so be prepared for the vile drip :)
 
It tastes minty fresh. :D

Oh and I feel tobala on the "dentist" vibe. Will definitely have to try it with a tryptamine next time.
 
Glad you said that, ikkyu. I mentioned to some folks that snorting ket felt like what I would imagine snorting extra strong mints would be. They looked at me like I was insane. Glad I'm not alone in my minty fresh ket insanity :D.

Also, I find 100-150mg of nasal ket to be enough to hole on almost everytime unless tolerance has built significantly. Quarter of a gram plus would be an anaesthetic dose for me almost any time.
 
minty fresh? pfffft...if you consider vile chemical taste that makes me cringe every time i take a line then yea, it's minty fresh ;)

i always have to eat before i go into a k-hole and food (usually candy) needs to be on-hand once i come out of it otherwise i have that nasty taste in my mouth which kills my stomach and triggers my gag reflex. aside from the taste, though, it's one of my fave substances :D
 
It's weird, before this I could never understand some people saying they enjoyed or even looked forward to the drip of a given substance. But now I understand. It works out too, since I don't have to move around while k'd out in order to find water to wash down the drip. :)

I find ~120mg suitable as well. I think I would not remember a thing if I did a quarter gram all in one go.

Does anyone here have problems with the comedown? Most of the time I'll be decidedly out of the hole but my body will still be pretty anaesthetized. It's okay if I avoid moving around but I usually have to pee, get water, etc. after taking K. Could weed help with the nausea I get from moving or would it just exacerbate the body strangeness?
 
^ i'm the same way. my mind is completely aware of what's going on and it's saying "move, get some damn food and take a piss" but my body is glued to the surface i'm laying on. it usually takes about 15-20 minutes for my body to catch up to my my awareness level. sometimes i'll power through it (get up slowly, stumble around and make my way to the bathroom/kitchen/wherever) but i've had a few accidents happen as a result of that (i tend to run into/trip over things, including my own feet, when i'm sober, imagine what it's like when i'm k'd out 8o). i tend to do k when i'm alone but on the occasion someone is there, i usually beckon them to help me get up and guide me to where i need to go.

the whole trick is to get up SLOWLY. i'm usually lying on my stomach so i start by pushing myself up with my hands and bringing one leg up, then the other so i'm on all fours. once i'm on all fours, i try to push myself up. it usually works the first time, sometimes it takes a few tries ;)
 
^ That sounds like it would work. I was getting up straight away to try and walk, but I think the all fours thing would be a better choice so as to get acclimated to physical movement again.
 
i love the k drunk stumble.

if im not stumbling around walking into things and can put togeher coherent sentences then i havent done enough Ketamine. its time for another line.

And im finally understading its addicting nature.
after using it almost daily for the last couple weeks and now on my 2nd day without it i feel myself missing it.
Not so much physical withdrawal like with opiates or other harder drugs, but more like with marijuana. i just miss it and wish i had a little bump to do right now :(

breaks are good though i suppose

soon enough i will be using (abusing?) it again.

hmmm, i wonder if i should go for S ket next time just to switch it up and see what its like.
or just stick to the tried and true?
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. Yeah, I did 245mg my first time and retained little of the experience, so I think I'll start off around 150mg this time. But one related question. Let's say that doesn't get me where I want, I'm planning on supplementing with maybe another 50mg. But how long should I wait? Ie, at what point can I safely say, "if I haven't k-holed yet, it's not happening with this dose" and therefore bump a bit more?

By the way, I have an annoyingly massive tolerance to every psychedelic I've tried. I assume this is residual efffects from having been on SSRIs for over a decade until I stopped 2 years ago. But K doesn't act on the same receptors that classic psychedelics and SSRIs do, correct? So there's no reason to think I'd have a similarly high K tolerance.
 
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Im not denying S and R Ketamine exist because obviosly they do. But how do all of you chatting about the S or R Ket you did lastnight know which one it was. There are hundreds(possibly thousands??) of Pharma companies who make K, I believe over 30 different K's just in India. The average K user, unless very close to the importer hasnt got a clue what kind it is, at best they identify the K by the colour of top which is inaccurate as obviosly many companies will have the same colored tops. Not to mention the average K importer these days hasnt got a clue what type it is, they buy it already botled and never even see the vial ar osk what it is!!!Sorry i dont believe for a second that any K whatsoever is made clandistinely. Its an Urban Myth!! Like the socalled fact that its a Horse tranquiliser! What would the point be for a chemist to make it when they can make much more expensive and interesting drugs for the same amount of effort.Its too cheap to make underground!

For a K hole the best way would be to go for a line maybe 250 - 400mg. The trick is the setting! Do it either alone or with other people doing the same. Dont have anyone about who will try and talk to you ar keep bothering you asking if you are dead! Sniff the line then just lie down and let go. Wont take long to be on the rollercoaster. When i started doing K i used to prefer an outside setting, much better experience. If you are in a city go to a quiet place in a park or roof of a house obviosly be safe;).
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The K going around my state these dayscomes from clands lab much more often then it used to and both S+ and racemic are available on the street. Until a few weeks ago I hadn't ever seen S+ on the street but now I see it on a regular basis. I'll be trying it FINALLY in a few days actually.

Wiki does name a couple brands of K which are purely S+. I live on the boarder of Mexico and rarely see genuine vials these days. Any true ketter will easily tell the difference between racemic and S+. Hell I can even tell the difference between racemic and 2 brands of K with a single dose. My GF probably could too. When you start counting your ketamine usage by the ounce(s) for a month, k-holes become more familiar than reality.

I'm really really surprised I have never heard of K-pains before I started getting them and looked into it. I have a pretty good understanding on them and when I get a lot of time I'll post a huge post. A gram a day for several days or several grams in a single day can start giving you the most painful stomach/chest pains you could possibly imagine. Though I do know more male ketters than female it seams to only happen in males.
 
Ok it's possible my daily and heavy usage is catching up with me:\

I've been having chest/stomach pains for a nearly two weeks. I went to the hospital a week ago, after a week of these pains not going away. I had a chest x ray, and told them about my usage. I figure if it does have anything to do with the k, it's best to be honest about my habit.

They diagnosed me with Costocondritis

When patients have a pain in the chest and a swelling is felt by the Doctor they will feel pain when the ribs are pressed just to the side of the large bone in the middle of the chest, they are often diagnosed with a usually harmless condition called Tietze�s syndrome, also known as costocondritis.


It's very possible that's what I have, and it's painful and it lasts a while, up to 6 weeks.

Now, what else I'm thinking is it could possibly be a stomach ulcer. So, I don't know how to tell the difference, because I have a friend who's had Costocondritis, who says they've felt the same pain I do now, and another who's had a stomach ulcer, and felt the same pain. Is there any test I can do to tell the difference? I just started taking rolaids today, so I guess if the pain goes away, it would have been a stomach ulcer, or it could just be my tissue just normally healing.

Is there anything to be truly concerned about my health?

I just read the post above me, could just be the k-pains.....
 
I read K has a very long lasting antidepression effect.....

but it has its powerful purposes ;p very great in psyc combinations.
 
I see folks talkin bout K pains!! K is one of the most psycologically addictive drugs around, in london people call it techno smack. And when used everyday for many months or years can and most likely will cause many many BAD physical problems. Stomach Ulcers and Bad kidney problems resulting in pissing blood or even crystalls(possibly K) are very common. I know of three people who have holes in their septum, one who cant talk proplerly cause of it. I have Tinnitus, constant ringing in my ears from K abuse(Not from sound systems!!) and have friends who have the same. As for K being a strong anti depressant I would say abuse psycadelics for many years and you will much more likely end up depressed Guaranteed! Long term K abuse will eventually lead to psycosis. Its so easy to get in to K and really respect it and only do it once in a while in a good setting but a few years down the line your doing it all day every day wherever you are, in bed, while having a bath, on the train or plane, etc.. You end up not giving a fuck about anything except K. With K most of your tolerence never comes back like other drugs. Eventually after maybe 8 years after almost driving myself permanently insane the K itself told me I had to stop and one day after trying for a while i just stopped though i admit i will do a line every few months maybe and then be disgusted with myself!! Just be carefull before you know it it will control your life.

Id just like to add that i have a few friends who are still caining K and are so fukt up. They cant talk properly ever, cant recognise people, no memory, cant do most basic things. I actually dont know any other drug ,maybe asside from meth which isnt a problem here in the UK, that can grab hold of you and screw you up like K. I have a heroin habbit and i would rather have that than a K one again believe me.
 
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For anybody interested in Ketamine and all you who think you know it all cause youve taken it for a few weeks or months here is a link so you can download Dr Karl Jansens book Ketamine - Dreams and Realities. He is probably the leading expert on ketamine in the world and the book is very easy and fun to read and covers ALL aspects from invention, cultural use, raves, abuse, treatment for dependance, psycological and physillogicall problems.

http://www.maps.org/books/K-DreamsKJansenMAPS.pdf

Well worth a read and & as an addition to any psychedelic library!!
 
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Also Ketamine was proved to cause Olneys Lessions, holes in the brain(brain damage) after high dose experiments with RATS in 1989. Just something else to worry you about!
 
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Yeah....Olney's lesions kinda worry me.

My k pains have gone away! I've cut down usage drastically :)
 
you guys realize that Olney's lesions have yet to be proven in humans right?

besides, that's like saying that lots of MDMA abuse will give you brain damage. well duh, abuse of anything will fuck you up. As long as you're not making it a habit it shouldn't be any more of an issue than occasional MDMA use. IMO, much less damaging to the brain.
 
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